Is the North Korea crisis over or not?

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: Vorian

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: Vorian
a reply to: dianajune

It is over if Trump decides to stop using it as a distraction.

A distraction from what ?
Who would he be distracting ? Or attempting to ?
Why would he be distracting ?
Easy to type a single sentence into an empty box .

From all the things Trump and his family is doing. Sorry, thought you knew.

My , how intelligent and informative you can be when you have to.
I am impressed.
Hillary , is that you ?
Or Maxine ?
Or better yet, Nancy ?

No. You really went far afield.

originally posted by: Vorian

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: Vorian

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: Vorian
a reply to: dianajune

It is over if Trump decides to stop using it as a distraction.

A distraction from what ?
Who would he be distracting ? Or attempting to ?
Why would he be distracting ?
Easy to type a single sentence into an empty box .

From all the things Trump and his family is doing. Sorry, thought you knew.

My , how intelligent and informative you can be when you have to.
I am impressed.
Hillary , is that you ?
Or Maxine ?
Or better yet, Nancy ?

No. You really went far afield.

Afield of what ? Pertinent questions considering the topic and your response..
Trying to have a debate. Only getting classic deflection from my opponent.
Checkmate.

originally posted by: VictorVonDoom
Nah, the Korean Crisis is just on hold while the MSM tells us we should all hate each other because of race.

Give it a couple of weeks and we will once again be in imminent danger of a full scale nuclear attack capable of wiping out all life on Earth.

Provided Global Warming doesn't kill all life on Earth first. Sometimes it's hard to keep track of what we should fear or hate the most at any given moment. Thank God the MSM is there to keep us on track.

DOOM!!

Honestly though, I dont see how something wont snap within the next few years. There are just too many things on the edge.

originally posted by: Vorian

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Vorian

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: Vorian
a reply to: dianajune

It is over if Trump decides to stop using it as a distraction.

A distraction from what ?
Who would he be distracting ? Or attempting to ?
Why would he be distracting ?
Easy to type a single sentence into an empty box .

From all the things Trump and his family is doing. Sorry, thought you knew.

Playing too much golf, grabbing ass in the locker room..... Glad we cleared that up.......

LOL, that is a start. I would move to using the Office of the President to purposefully increase financial holdings and for no other reason. Leasing space from the US government to increase income. Working on behalf of foreign operators to reduce debt.

That is just where I start. An expert will do 1000x more with this.

How about no, not and never?
We have seen all the "experts" on ATS drone on with these tales of fiction for quite some time now, dont sell yourself short, they don't do any better with them.
In fact, you sound fairly reasonable on most of the stuff I have seen you post, so you already do better than the "experts".
The "experts" are like a one track, broken record. All day, every day.

NK doesn't have the tech to light anyone up with an ICBM yet, they have been bluffing.

there is an irony to instead of serious # like children in your neighbours shed; we wait and watch wolf crying from a country we can't touch. i mean, people choose to be comfortable, that's all a reply to: pirhanna

originally posted by: Noncents

originally posted by: dianajune
Why not shoot those satellites of his out of the sky?

That would be a good start.

This is why there might be a crisis. Seriously? You want WW3? You want a lot of innocent people to die?

North Korea kept saying, like they have been for ages, that they'd retaliate if anyone messes with them. We, the US, started saying the same thing. Both sides threatened the other that we would retaliate if the other side took action.

So they both cooled down and neither acted. Thus preventing a terrible war.

And you want to make it happen by attacking them? That's messed up...

I don't think it's messed up to defend ourselves. You'd be singing a different tune if Lil' Kim decided to EMP us. Wouldn't it be prudent to remove what is probably the most immediate threat to the U.S. while it's possible?

originally posted by: crimsongod21
Is it over probably not, should we be worried? Probably not.

If history serves to teach us anything NK will always be up to something loud and brash with little to no plans for follow through.

More concerning would be the United States escalating based on threats and saber rattling. While little K is a loud mouth (like father like son) his military might as a stand alone country is negligible if he were to gather ligetiment support from China or Russia then I might get worried. As in a pact outright stating that if they were to go to war they would be supplied and backed up 100% by either of said nations. This will not happen due to his loud mouth and brash nature he is to much of a wild card for any nation to outright support.

And as far as Alex Jones goes.....smh... Wouldn't trust him to tell me much of anything he gets more clicks and ad revenue from doom porn than you or I could fathom.

I don't agree with some of what Alex says, but the guest in that clip said something I do agree with, and that is we should take out Kim's satellites.

Kim is a loud mouth, but unlike his father, who shot off said mouth periodically just to get attention, Kim seems bound and determined to take everyone around him out if backed into a corner. He's not only nuts, but evil. He even does public executions in front of school children.

It amazes me that he's been allowed to run amok for so long.

a reply to: dianajune

So you are going to tell me that lill K can barely get a ballistic missile to launch correctly but he managed to get ultra high tech targeted EMP devices into orbit?

While it is no secret that NK has orbiting platforms for communication and possible high tech spying. The logistics on him having access to a high frequency EMP device that could not only target a geographical area and do large scale damage is unlikely.

More so to the point most military hardware is shielded from emp's. More so for tech that travels in the upper atmosphere as we are subjected globally to electromagnetic pulses daily from the sun and other heavenly bodies.

a reply to: dianajune

He is an "evil" little sob, that being said it should not be up to us the USA to take him out while all he does is saber rattle and talk. Of he were to attack the US or an Allie all bets are off.

As far as the atrocities he inflicts on his people it is up to them to rise up from the burden and the ashes and act. It does no good to liberate a populace if they are not willing to fight for themselves to appease the burden that is oppressing them.

a reply to: dianajune

Like it the previous threats its just pissing in wind

originally posted by: crimsongod21
a reply to: dianajune

So you are going to tell me that lill K can barely get a ballistic missile to launch correctly but he managed to get ultra high tech targeted EMP devices into orbit?

While it is no secret that NK has orbiting platforms for communication and possible high tech spying. The logistics on him having access to a high frequency EMP device that could not only target a geographical area and do large scale damage is unlikely.

More so to the point most military hardware is shielded from emp's. More so for tech that travels in the upper atmosphere as we are subjected globally to electromagnetic pulses daily from the sun and other heavenly bodies.

That is exactly what he did:

While the news media and U.S. intelligence community continues to focus on North Korea’s missile capabilities, one expert warned on Sunday that we are ignoring two North Korean satellites currently orbiting the U.S. that could be used to carry out a devastating electromagnetic pulse (EMP) attack.

Such a “surprise” attack could paralyze the U.S. electrical grid and critical civilian infrastructure, resulting in the death of large numbers of Americans. So warned Dr. Peter Vincent Pry, executive director of the Congressional Task Force on National and Homeland Security and chief of staff of the Congressional EMP Commission.

Pry was speaking on this reporter’s Sunday night talk radio show, “Aaron Klein Investigative Radio,” broadcast on terrestrial radio on New York’s AM 970 The Answer and NewsTalk 990 AM in Philadelphia and online. “We should not be tolerating the North Korean satellites that are orbiting over our country. There are two of them. And the intelligence community is still silent about those,” said Pry.

The expert was referring to the KMS 3-2 and KMS-4 earth observation satellites launched by North Korea in April 2012 and February 2016 respectively. The KSM-4 was launched one month after North Korea conducted an underground nuclear test, prompting a debate about sanctions at the United Nations Security Council.

Source

Btw, his missiles can reach the US and it's been reported that he can fit nuclear warheads on them.

In July, the isolated nation test-launched intercontinental ballistic missiles, or ICBMs, that can reportedly deliver nuclear warheads to targets thousands of miles away. And as journalists revealed in August, US intelligence officials think North Korea has also figured out how to miniaturize its warheads to fit atop ICBMs. While many weapons experts question the exact capabilities of North Korea's latest hardware, few deny it represents worrisome progress toward the nation becoming a credible nuclear threat.

Experts are also concerned the maturing ICBM program could proliferate nuclear weapons around the world, raise the likelihood of nuclear accidents, and bring the world closer to the brink of what could be a global calamity. "Based on current information, [the July 28] missile test by North Korea could easily reach the US West Coast, and a number of major US cities," David Wright, a physicist and the co-director of the Union of Concerned Scientists' global security program, wrote in a recent blog post.

Source

a reply to: dianajune

You have been sucked into the media fear cycle, they were reporting here in oz that Kimmie could send a missile and hit us too, while we were being reminded that we are American allies and will be fighting alongside our American brothers if Kimmi attacks.

You really believe that?


Fear, fear and more fear. It's a psyop.

It's over until the media needs a new anti-trump story.

a reply to: Vorian

From all the things Trump and his family is doing. Sorry, thought you knew.

Vorian . Time to pull your head out of your crack . President after president has gone the sanctions / diplomacy route with little kimmy . Didnt work . Are willing to hope that little kimmy as time goes by wont believe his own dribble and think he can attack the US/allies without retaliation . Do You hate Trump that much , do you REALLY hate Trump that much . When it comes to NK , ostrich meet vorian .

I have said it before, the Asian man sees it in terms of Honor and pride, the Occidental man (western man) sees it in terms of logic and pragmatism. Trump has toned down the rhetoric, Kim has likewise been given room to bluster with his people, them thinking he won the war of words, sated he may cool off for now, and frankly he had no chance anyway, only a horrific mess and dead. President Trump has gotten security for now with Guam, Japan and South Korea.

originally posted by: crimsongod21
Is it over probably not, should we be worried? Probably not.

If history serves to teach us anything NK will always be up to something loud and brash with little to no plans for follow through.

More concerning would be the United States escalating based on threats and saber rattling. While little K is a loud mouth (like father like son) his military might as a stand alone country is negligible if he were to gather ligetiment support from China or Russia then I might get worried. As in a pact outright stating that if they were to go to war they would be supplied and backed up 100% by either of said nations. This will not happen due to his loud mouth and brash nature he is to much of a wild card for any nation to outright support.

And as far as Alex Jones goes.....smh... Wouldn't trust him to tell me much of anything he gets more clicks and ad revenue from doom porn than you or I could fathom.

History also tells us that DPRK launched a major invasion against South Korea, starting a little thing called the "Korean War".

However, I think we are now playing a different game. Lil' Kim appears to be struggling to maintain power at home, while facing (whether real or in his own imagination, though I increasingly hedge towards real) risk of regime change being pushed by everyone - including his main supporter, China. The problem with him escalating is that, as far as I am aware of the cultural issues involved and would welcome correction on this point, it is very hard for him to de-escalate without losing face. He depends on getting some concession so that he can claim it as a victory.

Another thing that history tells us, is that leaders struggling with stability or economic issues in their own country, see war as an opportunity to divert internal issues and solidify power.

Lil' Kimbo may well be a nutjob who would rather go out in flames and take as many people with him as possible. If regime change comes, he knows he will be lucky if he just gets his throat slit in his sleep. Those in his own country who might support a change in leadership will be keenly aware of how creatively he has killed those who displease him. However, this is not the only reason why he might consider starting a war.

I suspect he wants to start one in a way that he can point to someone else as the aggressor - hence all the stupid little stunts and threats.

a reply to: dianajune

I agree that the conflict is not over.

I also think that in this case, it looks like Trumps bellicose strategy may have worked; Kim Jong Un blinked.

It was a risky move. But again, I don't think that we're done.

War with NK within 2 years.

originally posted by: redhorse
a reply to: dianajune

I agree that the conflict is not over.

I also think that in this case, it looks like Trumps bellicose strategy may have worked; Kim Jong Un blinked.

It was a risky move. But again, I don't think that we're done.

War with NK within 2 years.

Your right, but Ol' Kim is the King of Bellicose hyperbolic rhetorical flourishes. When President Trump does it, it comes out sort of awkward....

originally posted by: VictorVonDoom
Nah, the Korean Crisis is just on hold while the MSM tells us we should all hate each other because of race.

Give it a couple of weeks and we will once again be in imminent danger of a full scale nuclear attack capable of wiping out all life on Earth.

Provided Global Warming doesn't kill all life on Earth first. Sometimes it's hard to keep track of what we should fear or hate the most at any given moment. Thank God the MSM is there to keep us on track.

Ummm...WOW...I laughed at your post...not because it was particularly funny...not because your thoughts were wrong...
but because of the truth in your statements...

I think it was more of a cynical chuckle...




YouSir

a reply to: dianajune



Why would you even ask if its over? I mean as long as NKorea has nukes, and can hit the U.S. its not over. Just because its been calm for a few days, doesn't mean we are not on the brink of a storm. The only way to avoid war, is talking, and I don't see kim and don doing that.