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originally posted by: Agit8dChop
While I agree with this, the thing that troubles me is the next group that attacks the US will not be entering as refugee's.
They'll be bought in on special planes having been trained in Oman, Kuwait or Saudi.
They'll need no visa's, they'll go through no immigration.
Do you not understand the people that orchestrate the major world events, ie Iraq War, ISIS, Libya are above the government and police.
originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: Snarl
Someone, somewhere has just read your post, got triggered and has now got another reason to be offended, another means of labeling Trump a racist.
This someone, of course, is living in a river in Egypt, also known as Denial and will likely react to this latest outrage with textbook labeling of Trump as a racist bigot......as if this is the first they are hearing of this.
This someone will also call him a deluded Christian fundie because he has exempted religious minorities who are being persecuted by Islamic regimes, which is the height of this someones hypocrisy insofar that all the core values this someone holds dear are the exact same values the Islamic regimes are hell bent on destroying and murdering anyone who even remotely displays a desire for freedom from Islam.
originally posted by: JacKatMtn
a reply to: Snarl
4D chess at play?
Let's get real here folks. What's the point of this ban?
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
Trump's working fast, while the media and their parrots salivate for him to say something they approve of. "Please talk like us Donald! Please say things we want to hear!"
originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: theantediluvian
Let's get real here folks. What's the point of this ban?
Others in this thread have already bought it up, Americans will be on that list soon enough...
People are turning on each other, the proof is right in front of us with the current liberal meltdown. It will not take much for "the people" to demand their own brethren be hung out to dry in the name of security, nor does it take much for the list to be modified.
As you point out homegrown terrorists are far more of a threat than ones from overseas...
originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Snarl
How many terrorist attacks on US soil in the last eight years wouldn't have occurred if these bans were in place?
The Orlando shooter was US-born, the male terrorist in the San Bernardino shootings was American born (his wife was born in Pakistan and raised in Saudi Arabia — neither of which is on the list) and the Boston Marathon bombers had immigrated from Dagestan or Kyrgyzstan I believe (though ethnically, Chechen).
The Cascade Mall shooter was born in Turkey but immigrated to the US as a young child when his mother married an American. The NY/NJ Bomber is from Afghanistan and immigrated to the US with his family when he was like 11-12 (2000 I believe)?
So none of them?
Let's get real here folks. What's the point of this ban? Until we can make vetting foolproof? It'll never be fullproof. After all, how does one vet young children? What process could determine if 15 or 20 years down the road, a child will "self-radicalize" on the Internet?
What's to stop a jihadi from masquerading as a Christian (or any other religion)? If ISIS, Al Qaeda, whatever terrorists organization wants to direct attacks with trained/supported operatives, why wouldn't they just send them from a country not on the list?
It doesn't seem like this will have any real effect except to foster feelings of alienation among demographics that are at greatest risk for radicalization (young men)?
originally posted by: underwerks
Who in the Trump admin gets to decide what "threat" means? Is an ideological difference seen as a threat to a Trump America?
originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Snarl
and all those dems said he wouldnt follow through with his campaign promises
originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Snarl
What process could determine if 15 or 20 years down the road, a child will "self-radicalize" on the Internet?