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To that end, Democratic state Rep. Daryl Rouson, whose district includes St. Petersburg, told FoxNews.com that he has written a bill that would prohibit gun owners from firing weapons on their property, though he insists it would not infringe upon an owner’s right to bear arms.
originally posted by: WilsonWilson
I find it crazy that someone can shoot their gun in their yard when they have neighbours, how do they know, nothing will go astray and injure their neighbours, never mind noise issues.
It's really selfish if nothing else, gun owning moron alert.
originally posted by: WilsonWilson
I find it crazy that someone can shoot their gun in their yard when they have neighbours, how do they know, nothing will go astray and injure their neighbours, never mind noise issues.
It's really selfish if nothing else, gun owning moron alert.
As the Founders intended it, the US military would primarily consist of the various states' National Guards under command of the state governors and locally elected officials.
originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: DJW001
As the Founders intended it, the US military would primarily consist of the various states' National Guards under command of the state governors and locally elected officials.
This is true.
But the framers of the Constitution were also adamant about the necessity of an armed citizenry to prevent the government that they framed form becoming tyrannical. We mustn't let that be swept under the rug.
originally posted by: peskyhumans
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To that end, Democratic state Rep. Daryl Rouson, whose district includes St. Petersburg, told FoxNews.com that he has written a bill that would prohibit gun owners from firing weapons on their property, though he insists it would not infringe upon an owner’s right to bear arms.
So what do you think about this? I believe that our 2nd admendment - the right to form an armed militia - is infringed and becomes utterly pointless when we are prohibited from using our arms. How can a militia function when they can't shoot anybody? Or we could take this a step further and look at laws that restrict open carry: How can a militia function when it isn't allowed to bear arms in public? That's saying "You can be a militia, as long as you don't go outside. Then you are criminals." You can't be a militia and do that. The purpose of a militia is to allow the citizenry to fight back against corrupt government. This means open carry and the ability to shoot guns in public.
I believe that these laws are clearly unconstitutional because they undermine and prohibit the intent of our 2nd amendment. In order for a militia to function in it's intended role, it must be able to bear arms in public, and fire those arms in public. In my eyes this is a black and white issue. You either support our constitution in it's entirety, or you don't. If you don't, IMO you don't belong in the United States of America.
If my neighbor started shooting at a target, I wouldn't care as long as he didn't point it at my house. I admit I would prefer him to take it to a gun range for noise considerations (Only noise considerations) but I wouldn't want a law passed against it.
To share a story, my grandfather would sometimes shoot squirrels stealing feed from my grandmother's birdfeeders. He would keep a loaded rifle next to his patio just in case he caught one in the act. It never bothered the neighbors since he lived out in the country, and everyone near him also owned guns. The thing is I don't think it should be a state or local issue - it's in the Constitution. If someone in a town or city wants to exercise their right to bear arms, they should be allowed to.
I want to know if I'm in the minority here. How many here live in the U.S. and believe in an inalienable second amendment?
originally posted by: WilsonWilson
I find it crazy that someone can shoot their gun in their yard when they have neighbours, how do they know, nothing will go astray and injure their neighbours, never mind noise issues.
It's really selfish if nothing else, gun owning moron alert.
originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: peskyhumans
It says literally, " the right to own and bear arms." It says nothing about firing them. Believe it or not, an ordinance to prohibit firing arms would not be unconstitutional under Supreme Court Justice Scalia's " strict constructionist" philosophy!
“The simple fact is that backyard gun ranges in residential neighborhoods are not legal,” Marion Hammer, president of the Unified Sportsmen of Florida and past president of the National Rifle Association, told Guns.com. “I know of no zoning ordinance anywhere in Florida that allows gun ranges in residential areas. Neither are gun shops, churches, newspaper printing facilities, junkyards, TV stations, homemade go-car race tracks, etc. allowed in residential neighborhoods and areas zoned for exclusively for residential use.”
Hammer pointed out that state law Florida statue 790.15 (1), prohibits just such makeshift shooting ranges in areas such as Carrannate’s. She contends the real underlying problem is that area lawmakers are simply not in compliance themselves, blaming preemption statutes that do not apply in this case.
“The legislature has already addressed this. Some local governments are refusing to enforce state law,” Hammer said. “Some local government officials have claimed that because they can’t regulate firearms, they can’t do anything about these ranges. That is ludicrous. They need to enforce state law – it’s uniform and it’s clear. ”
originally posted by: ketsuko
originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: peskyhumans
It says literally, " the right to own and bear arms." It says nothing about firing them. Believe it or not, an ordinance to prohibit firing arms would not be unconstitutional under Supreme Court Justice Scalia's " strict constructionist" philosophy!
But it also mentions a "well-regulated militia." It is sort of hard to have one of those if the people forming it aren't even allowed to fire those guns.