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originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: OccamsRazor04
and christianity certainly does not have a monopoly on 25th december [ a date they hijacked ]
originally posted by: NOTurTypical
originally posted by: Entreri06
Lmao no one including you nor Emperor Constantine had any idea what day Jesus was born.... It was 400 years later by the time Christianity was a full fledged religion and there were no cell phones to keep up with the date. All culture celebrated the winter solstice so they decided to celebrate it that day... No one ever claimed to have any clue what day he was actually born.
originally posted by: NOTurTypical
originally posted by: ttropia
I, my self, claim Christ. The only offensive part to me is my fellow believers getting offended at a rather funny tweet. Grow up already!
I doubt the great creator was offended. We do have the Tumble Bug, I bet the creator even giggled at the tweet.
I'm a Christian also and don't care, Jesus wasn't born on December 25th. It was September 29th in 2 B.C.
No, it is actually easy to figure out if one does their homework. The idea He was born on December 25th was an invention of the RCC.
Whats ironic is that Newton was a devout Christian.
originally posted by: Anubis259
a reply to: OccamsRazor04 I find it curious that anyone on ATS would believe any religious doctrine. I was under the impression this was a place for logical, critically thinking and educated people.
originally posted by: elysiumfire
DeadSeraph:
Whats ironic is that Newton was a devout Christian.
Oh, was he? On what do you base your assumption? Where's your evidence that Newton was a 'devout Christian'? I can tell you now that Newton was most certainly not a devout Christian, he was a Socinian sympathizer, and wholly disagreed with orthodox Christian dogma.
What Newton did do was to present a facade of being a devout Christian so that he would not be persecuted for the work he was doing. Newton refused to take holy orders, and on his death bed refused the sacrament. If anything Newton was a Deist, even though he was much earlier than the Enlightenment and the emergence of Deists, but his belief system correlated to Deism.
His starting point, due to the period in which he lived, was a belief in God, but not that which was and is depicted by Christianity.Christianity needed Newton, but Newton didn't need Christianity, his work was wholly antithetical to it.
originally posted by: Entreri06
originally posted by: NOTurTypical
originally posted by: Entreri06
Lmao no one including you nor Emperor Constantine had any idea what day Jesus was born.... It was 400 years later by the time Christianity was a full fledged religion and there were no cell phones to keep up with the date. All culture celebrated the winter solstice so they decided to celebrate it that day... No one ever claimed to have any clue what day he was actually born.
originally posted by: NOTurTypical
originally posted by: ttropia
I, my self, claim Christ. The only offensive part to me is my fellow believers getting offended at a rather funny tweet. Grow up already!
I doubt the great creator was offended. We do have the Tumble Bug, I bet the creator even giggled at the tweet.
I'm a Christian also and don't care, Jesus wasn't born on December 25th. It was September 29th in 2 B.C.
No, it is actually easy to figure out if one does their homework. The idea He was born on December 25th was an invention of the RCC.
No it's not... The only reliable source from Jesus's life was the roman one refering to "the cristos". So you can pin point when he was here, but not when he was born.
originally posted by: Anubis259
a reply to: OccamsRazor04 I find it curious that anyone on ATS would believe any religious doctrine. I was under the impression this was a place for logical, critically thinking and educated people. Why would anyone believe something which has no credible evidence, and makes ridiculous claims like talking animals. You cant be logical and be a theist, they soundly contradict one another.
You cant be logical and be a theist, they soundly contradict one another.