This Country Just Abolished College Tuiton Fees

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Oh look, a country that cares about its people!

Well let me tell you something country. Your people need to take responsability for themselves. I'm not chipping in for your education so you can have a brighter future. Why would I care about you? IM DOING GREAT! But it's because Im the best yay!

/sarcasm off

Prospective students in the United States who can’t afford to pay for college or don’t want to rack up tens of thousands in student debt should try their luck in Germany. Higher education is now free throughout the country, even for international students. Yesterday, Lower Saxony became the last of seven German states to abolish tuition fees, which were already extremely low compared to those paid in the United States.

Good for you Germany. Many of you will see this as a move towards socialism, but I however will see this as progress and evolution. I mean seriously why does it cost 100k for someone to read you a book? Anything is better then the corporate backed money machines we call college here in the US.

Should edit your title...tuition fees...just sayin'....

I need to move to Germany! Teach my son German and educate him there. Wonder how that would even work, not being a citizen?

Anyway, I have been complaining forever about the debt of student loans for American citizens to be educated to work and carry on in their own country. It's a shame!!

originally posted by: onequestion
I mean seriously why does it cost 100k for someone to read you a book?

Supply and demand.

Historically low interest rates and an 'everyone should go to college' paradigm drives up the cost of tuition making it more expensive for everyone.

Maybe it was part of the plan all along here in the US, switching it so that the little people take all the risk, and make all the investment, while they reap all the rewards and profits. Because that's exactly where we are right now.

It's obvious to anyone not totally blinded by patriotic fervor that every institution in this country has been corrupted and is now leeching off of, instead of helping, the normal American citizen. While other countries have their flaws, they also show that other ways of doing things do actually work. Germany goes from being destroyed for the second time, to now being the powerhouse of Europe again.

When reality clashes with your ideals it's a sign that reevaluating your ideals is in order.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: onequestion
I mean seriously why does it cost 100k for someone to read you a book?

Supply and demand.

Historically low interest rates and an 'everyone should go to college' paradigm drives up the cost of tuition making it more expensive for everyone.

With a dead manufacturing base do these kids really have an option?

It's not like you can just do an apprenticeship and make 25$ an hour with as much overtime as you want anymore.

originally posted by: James1982
Maybe it was part of the plan all along here in the US, switching it so that the little people take all the risk, and make all the investment, while they reap all the rewards and profits. Because that's exactly where we are right now.

It's obvious to anyone not totally blinded by patriotic fervor that every institution in this country has been corrupted and is now leeching off of, instead of helping, the normal American citizen. While other countries have their flaws, they also show that other ways of doing things do actually work. Germany goes from being destroyed for the second time, to now being the powerhouse of Europe again.

When reality clashes with your ideals it's a sign that reevaluating your ideals is in order.

i a agree. It seems as if a few countries in Europe are ahead of the times right now while we're stuck in the 1950's.

Yes, and this issue made Finland one of the best nations in the world, minus their mandatory military service which would have landed me in jail for refusal to participate in, nor would allow my kids to. And would have to chew up the line of command and give them all the hero or zero lectures nonstop. But their eductation system is wonderful.

Germany has this going in the right direction, but they have other issues that need addressing.

All nations need to have this and price control, with a standard guaranteed wage, above the poverty line. Price control on housing, utilities and food. Because its an artificial rogue deck of cards they've established to cause misery to the majority on earth who have a perfect right to just build a house and grow a garden anywhere practically. And when they take that away, this small thug group, they don't get it both ways.

Do you seriously think the tax payers want to pay for a degree in gender studies?
Streamline the list of degrees available to useful fields and raise the standards of admission to weed out the ones that don't belong in college. Then we can consider free tuition.

a reply to: onequestion

If your government is trying to help kids get educated, they are not afraid of, or averse to knowledge. The Germans are also winning health care .. by humans for humans --rather than by profit machines for profit.

If your government is trying to brainwash, confuse, scare, kill, abuse, starve, oppress you and turn you into a battery for a profit machine. Get out before it's too late.

a reply to: Unity_99

Actually I like mandatory military service for two years.

First off they arent aggressive policing the world, that's our job. Secondly it teaches them all principles of self defense and how to shoot a gun preparing them for an invasion which is still a reality of the day.

a reply to: Hoosierdaddy71

Honestly it's not my perogetive to care what classes someone takes in college. To each his own.

I don't have a profit over everything mentality though. I just care about the general welfare of our country. The job is just a means to an end not an end all be all your only successful if you make more money then me selfish paradigm that's destroying us.

a reply to: Unity_99

"minus their mandatory military service which would have landed me in jail for refusal to participate in"

so you're saying that life should be all about the good things and ignore the bad because there's no such thing as evil in this world?

The US college bubble is said to burst soon. Unfortunately it's only became a monopolized dead end, for what seems like most now days, especially when degrees(some companies take people with degrees over others now) can only get you hired for fast food because there's no other employment. Even locally to me(I'm in walking/close driving distance of two state colleges) where reports show that money to the colleges from tuition will not be local but international, as to say citizens can no longer afford college after loans are exhausted.

Maybe if college tuition was like it used to be(cheaper because everyone and their grandma were not trying to go) or even more so how Germany is trying this out, the oligarchy wouldn't be putting it's greedy hand into ruining it, simply follow the money. Interesting to see how it will pan out over there.

a reply to: onequestion

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originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: Hoosierdaddy71

Honestly it's not my perogetive to care what classes someone takes in college. To each his own.

I don't have a profit over everything mentality though. I just care about the general welfare of our country. The job is just a means to an end not an end all be all your only successful if you make more money then me selfish paradigm that's destroying us.

Any time the government wastes money it is absolutely up to you to speak up. And the general welfare of the country is determined by future generations of college graduates. When those graduates have lousy educations obtained at universities that can send kids into the world with degrees in unemployment, I have a problem with paying for that. This has nothing to do with their pay after completing school, only what they have to offer the world after getting a free education.

a reply to: onequestion

I am in industrial sales and the manufacturing base is far from dead.

originally posted by: InverseLookingGlass
If your government is trying to help kids get educated, they are not afraid of, or averse to knowledge.

Governments could care less about helping kids get educated...

Education is nothing more than indoctrination.

The whole purpose behind higher 'education' is to bring minds into lock step with "The Agenda."

Germany is the ultimate police state

originally posted by: Clearskies
Germany is known for it's police-state tactics!

a reply to: onequestion

See what happens when education is NOT big business? Although I do wonder how much the books cost.

a reply to: kelbtalfenek

If it is government price controlled you will get what you pay for: mediocrity.