I met a fully Enlightened "Buddha". Here's what he said:

galadofwarthethird
Ya that's what I am saying its just a word, and it means different things. And like some pages back somebody said it just means "I" in letting, after which you just attribute a bunch of things to yourself. If you like the color green well originally that was part of your ego, you liking the color green, if you liked fried potatoes that to was part of your ego, just something about you or "I" which made you who you are. Now a days its taken a more exaggerated meaning and terms. But I suppose everything has its purposes. I have used the word as well to describe things that are overbearing, in all its a language and meme issue. So...Whatever who cares, I'm over it...lets move on.

Yeah fair enough, I have been pondering your input for a couple of day now, I think you would definitely have to sacrifice to undergo a full enlightenment. You wouldn't particularly have friends, no partner, you would have no more use for fun etc (although I will add this is meant to be because Enlightenment is supposed to be ecstasy).

But I would not consider an ego-death full Enlightenment, although I would probably say it was the first step towards Bodhisattva, so it probably would be the beginning of the loss of anything that defines you. The Buddha no longer considered himself the man he was before, so I guess you are right, but I would not use the term 'potato' since you would be something that has transcended beyond the needs for earthly pleasures.

Anyway, like you said, we are simply discussing a language and meme issue! It's just very odd to hear Enlightenment put into a negative light, I'm sure you wouldn't think it was bad if you actually obtained it.

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Something that's inherent can't just be destroyed.

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The elements the building blocks of the internal, that are mostly ignored, for it is the internal construction that is the science, if you will, of the internal creation input equals output, something that science as a whole generally passes by, as the internal reality is to close to the bone (pun?) so the nutrient value becomes a main factor both physically and mentally the meat debate another forum maybe, but a factor none the less, we are hosts of our own indulgence in so many ways…

Are the ingestion's the feed of fools, the illusion capacitor? A crown of thorns to encircle mankind a message a crucifixion to kill religion,a message, 5 wounds to separate the soul, so it could not return to the source of the divine a message , the will of David against Goliath a message how are we supposed to make sense of these events ?
Air fire water earth space aether sulphur mercury salt ingredients of creation.
Will everything to return to its Natural state?

unconditional

double-post, pardon

Fascinating thread.

I had no idea ATS had so many fully-enlightened beings, who are graceful enough to show up on this thread to explain why the OP is wrong. Thank you all for your superior knowledge. Since Buddhism teaches to quiet the ego, I can only assume that this barrage of "The OP is delusional: here's how reality REALLY works" comments is based not on bruised egos defending challenged belief systems, but rather on the true empathic desire to help others rid themselves of wrong thinking.

Cheers =)

Here in the city of Nara Japan where I have lived for twenty one years there are many Buddhist temples including the head temple of the largest sect. It has a giant Buddha in it. My name is Sigmund which is difficult for the Japanese to pronounce so they call me Siggy. There is a mountain near here called sigy san with a famous temple on it dedicated to the tiger. I was visiting there with my wife and my sister. Underneath the main temple compound there is a dark corridor that is used to test the young monks. It is totally dark and here and there there is a step. It goes around the whole compound. Somewhere in the middle is a small alcove with a little statuette of Buddha faintly lit with a tiny flame. After about ten meters into the tunnel my wife and sister ran back scared silly. It was the demons in their own minds that had materialized in their imagination. They were histerical. I went through all four corners of the compound and came back the other side.The chief abbot saw me and asked me where I came from and I told him from there pointing to the exit point of the tunnel. He looked at me with an astonished look and said that is wonderful. I joined up with my sister and my wife and told them they should have tried it. I never told anybody that I spat in Buddha's face.

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what's going on with the notes?

thestarwalker
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what's going on with the notes?

everything from the notes is included in the OP, via a condensed description. I've since found links that describe in more detail all the stuff this fellow was discussing, and it'd more relevant to post those than my notes.

Here you go:

These two here have a lot of the details that the Cave Dweller from my OP was discussing, these links having TONS more details then my notes:
meditationexpert.com/
damo-qigong.net/

The central channel that I experienced opening up upon getting a transmission from him, is also spoken of in those links above, and here is also a new age site that speaks of this central channel:
soul1.org/CentralChannel.htm

Here's a Tai Chi site discussing the central channel with the dan tians:
taijiwuxigong.com/spiritual_development.htm

ALso I have a buddy who reached a very deep and permanent state of Enlightenment (though it is just one aspect of many) via a method known as Mahasi Style Noting. I asked the cave dweller about this, and he said it is a legitimate technique to access Enlightenment. SO this thread still holds its weight:
Enlightenment in 15-30 days, an EXTREMELY fast method. Mahasi Style Noting

Perhaps 1 thing I left off which he mentioned, was the importance of lengthy time in practice via solitude, retreats, or just setting up your life perhaps with a part time job, or save enough, where you can take lengthy time off to really go into deep and disciplined practice.

Also the link in my signature also still holds weight and has in it a ton of links that are just as appropriate and interconnected to what I have thus far listed.

On the meditationexpert website, something I found that the author posts there, which is similar to what the Cave Dweller, as I call him, were adamant about, was about cultivation of deep emptiness meditation as far as detachment from body and mind as not you. This really seems to speed up the process and help open all the meridians/chakras as well. ALl the links explain it all better then I could based on my notes.

It's hand in hand

This is all so very interesting, I need to to feel this energy.. This feeling of enlightenment I yearn for. The only time I feel a rush of energy running through my spine is occasionally when I hear a sound or a song that even if I don't like it it makes me body rush.. Another interesting thing I have expirience regularly is i can sense like anger.. When somebody around me is angry my body gets this weird signal very hard to describe.. Any thoughts or similar experiences? And I would also appreciate tips on how to become spiritually healthy and feel this positive energy flow! THANK YOU!

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This has just shown up here and it brought your thread to mind.

It seems to run with what has been stated in the opening of the thread.

This is actually good material. That's coming from someone who has been into this stuff for 20 years and not just through a couple of books. Yeah, I`m surprised some good material would actually come up here.

Thumbs Up.

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I just wanted to say that I subscribed to your thread when it first came up, but then only gave it a quick glance until today.
At first it didn't resonate, so I left it at that.

Today, I read the whole thing through carefully, and was surprised to find that I totally resonated to what you were saying, even though the specific terms were new to me - I am not a practitioner in this area. I am an eclectic seeker myself, but very humbly so - I have a crazy life full of scattered energy and caregiving. I see meditation and spiritual exploration/connection as a life-boat in the midst of my own private storm.

While reading your posts, I began breathing deeply and, as a singer, that comes easily for me. The channels and the Three Dan Tiens made sense, which surprised me in a very cool way - not that I experienced what you did, but I did resonate with it strongly. There was a sense of energetic opening and excitement - a way to cleanse the meridians, which is a very "YES" kind of thought for me, if that makes any sense. So, perhaps a step forward has been made.

I guess I could sense maybe a tad of your energy with all of this, and I want to thank you for your post. Interestingly, I thought after reading your main OP posts, "He should write a book!" I was glad to hear you mention that you were. (Feel free to U2U me when it is eventually done!)

Thanks so much!

- AB

Hi - I am planning to go India this July. Is there any possibility to advise/guide me to meet this cave wanderer?

Thanks for your time.

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domnicus, i would have believed u had became enlightened or atleast had a glimpse if not had been for ur attitude in response to Koyaanisqatsi- "Life is not a task. There is absolutely nothing to attain except the realization that there is absolutely nothing to attain. What is sought remains hidden from the seeker by already being everything."

koyaan doesn't need luck hes done found it. correct if wrong but what he is saying is that everything is one and theres nothing to find. thats referenced in about every religion you can find.

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Hey, did he say anything about Sikhism and the Sikh masters?

thanks for sharing.

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hi, I've been searching for a while for self enlightenment, and everything has been leading me to go to jndia, and this story on fully enlightened monks in the Himalayas got me exited! if we could just talk , it would help me start my journey for knoledge across the globe sorta like what u did, it would mean the world to me,
your fellow adventurer,
David antunez

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People try and complicate it with "levels" and "meridians" and "chakras" ...

But at the highest level, there is only ONE -- I have nicknamed it the "is-ness" because it just....is. It's where everything came from, and goes back to. Paradoxes don't exist/make sense in the "is-ness". If I could explain what it feels/looks like it would be just pure whiteness without any sense of time. I felt a sense of homecoming, familiarity. I suddenly realized that I had chosen to be "me". I realized that I was everything and that everything was me as well.

I guess you could also call it the "over mind". It has no beginning and no end. We are all shards of this infinite over mind, and we relentlessly spend agonizing amounts of time trying to define it, reach it, and understand it.

It is necessarily unknowable, for if we knew it well we wouldn't live out the lives we sent ourselves to live. We give ourselves amnesia of it. Sometimes it's better to not know what is behind the curtain of reality, for it can hamper living our present lives to the fullest.

All it takes is three dentine?

Awesome! What flavors work best?



But seriously, I don't have the money to travel. I've just been working on my own path to (at best) partial enlightenment.

You have to learn what you can, when you can, from whoever you can.

Anyone remember being a kid playing "make believe" and how real those play times used to be? We still all have that ability, it's just harder to get back as an adult. Our realities start in our heads, and pretty much what we choose to believe becomes a part of it. The power of placebo is so strong because we believe it. If we believed 100% we could cure ourselves of something, we probably could. The problem is, despite our strongest efforts, we probably never achieve more than 70% belief.

We can create amazing lives for ourselves if we choose to actively participate in our realities instead of simply existing in them. We can dance with the universe and become a co-creator of our realities.