Voynich, new decoding!

A: www.ask.com...

B: Language of the birds - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_of_the_birds

In mythology, medieval literature and occultism, the language of the birds is
postulated as a mystical, perfect divine language, green language, adamic
language ...

Leonardo painted both the Mona Lisa & the Last Supper..(see A: link)

i suggest Lionardo also made the Voynich Manuscript, written in the Language of the Birds, as a secret association with the Mona Lisa
I feel Lionardo also created the Shroud of Turin, as a secret association with the Last Supper

you see... Lionardo sought to create a whole reality around the Christ/Madonna...Jesus/Mona Lisa mystique... and the fullness of both good & evil withing these personnas.. the Mona Lisa included the witchcraft-botanical apothacary book as the dark-side of the Mona Lisa...just as the Death Shroud-of-Turin was the dark-side of the Jesus personna,

Da Vinci, i think sought to be the one person in history who would top the list of people to meet with the advent of Time Travel becoming a reality

reply to post by CallmeRaskolnikov


not a bad theory...the handwriting is very similar. Very plausible.

Thanks for this reference. Never heard of it before.


edit:

Even if it was Leonardo...would be pretty interesting to decipher the manuscript. I doubt it's gibberish.

ty for posting

the voynich script ...

Now what in the Hell didn't Someone long ago did this Especially Referring to the Drawing of the Star constellations and Names under Plants and Animals.. a Duh... kinda of thing ... lucky this Professor got the Whiff of it...

and I can see the Somewhat like Italian, Arabic, and Sanskrit, Amharic? a Mixture form of writing..

as Rumors that the manuscript was made by Da vinci well maybe.. Could Be...

But Dont Forget... what Nostradamus has done with his Writings His Quatrains and Da Vinci with his Codex..

and what was going on during that time ...! Witch Finders Everywhere,, for the sake of Corruption of Idea's ,Forbidden Knowledge of the time , to even inventions .. it the Reason Why of the Quatrains of Nostradamus.. and Hid his Work of Predictions .. as the Witchery Scare Ran Deep... in his Time .. Like Da Vinci..

when you Scroll along the Voynich Manuscript Book what does the Book remind you of??

when you see Herbs to unique Plants ( Potions to Medicine ) to the Stars constellations and Solstices.. ( Seasons ) Zodiac Descriptions and naked Woman as Grouping Along with Animals Traditions rituals Etc..

Now what else was going on during this Time Period!! ?? any Guess...

My Guess is!! THE PLAGUE ! I Would Bet that Some of those Plants yet to be Identified Could do some Healing or Prevention of the Plague.. but I am pretty sure there is Nothing about Da Vinci lending a Helping Hand of ( Healing the Sick )the Plague.. but Nostradamus has Done so..

What the Voynich Manuscript Looks to me .... is..... a what some people Call a Witches Almanac ...

In the Video Below you if you can catch the Glimpse of it when the pages are being flipped ( you may have to pause a bit )

You See close of the Same thing as the Voynich Manuscript from plant herbs to the Stars Solstices Charts etc..


witches almanac 2014


this is my best guess of that it is ....

The way this guy is going with how ascenders and descenders attached to a base letter shape function as diacritics or inflections, and how many different forms there may be of equivalent words for each case such as plurals, possesives or tenses, etc. he's probably going to find it relating to some Uralic language similar to Hungarian. (Would explain repetitive forms, but not consistently exact repetitions.) It seems likely they borrow some words from mideastern languages which he's forming comparisons to, so it seems plausible enough at least.

If it's a real language, it's probably going to be from some region along a northernly Silk Road route and a treatise of all the various herbal medicines available. Obviously not all the medicinal plants you could get along a trade route would be local (or even able to be grown locally), so having some book that outlines botany and explaining what stuff is good for and how to use it would make sense. That way you know what's worth buying when the caravans come through. Other than that, it likely includes some cultural spin on the subject with superstitions and shamanistic traditions involved in the practice of folk medicine.

I'd also guess a book like this in regards to botany and medicine was brought to Western Europe along the trade route during one of the plague outbreaks. As people then would be desparate to try anything. This might not be an original, but a copy of various writings from that era.

Just Wondering anyone Happens to think about this..

While looking at the VM and distance myself from my Pc looking at VM Writing

It appears like English Writing ...


But The Mind Works in Mysterious Ways

Example for those of you that can get it ... BRAVO!!




Some Fun ... Heal Law Aloft ... got and Fecg ... Apaw Fecpg.. Self othlaw ( The Law ) LOL...
Repectfully just Giberish of what it appears to me looking like European letters...

Now if those Rumors of Francis Bacon to Leonardo Da Vinci having a Hand putting this book together..

were to be True (( Unlikely )) I would See why and WHY the way's around... Coding it to keep away Praying Eyes...


but my stand is Still... that this.. This VM Book is some kind of Almanac of some sort.. either a Home to Witch to Wizard's kind of Book ... but from the Date of it ( Sometime in the 15th Century ) as its claimed... wasn't there Prosecution during this time of Heretics, Blasphemy Sinners and Finger Pointing of Witches ?

After watching the video I have a difficult time believing that this method hadn't been tried before. So many people have attempted to break this coding, and not a single one of them thought "Hrm. Juniper. Let's try other languages." or "Hrm Taurus maybe this says 'Taurus'."

Maybe they haven't. I haven't followed the manuscripts closely enough to know what has and hasn't been tried, but the fact no one else has tried seems odd to me since this is a rather simple approach by taking what you know and applying it to the rest of the text.

I know books back in the day were expensive, but books when this manuscript was first 'rediscovered and sold' were not so expensive, and much less expensive than the profit that was earned from it. If it is a hoax and created by the sellers of the book when it resurfaced, it could just be a bunch of gibberish. I really hope it's not, however.

And on a side note, the artistic styling and writing have always reminded me of a masculine style and print.

Wolfenz
Just Wondering anyone Happens to think about this..

While looking at the VM and distance myself from my Pc looking at VM Writing

It appears like English Writing ...


But The Mind Works in Mysterious Ways

Example for those of you that can get it ... BRAVO!!

Some Fun ... Heal Law Aloft ... got and Fecg ... Apaw Fecpg.. Self othlaw ( The Law ) LOL...
Repectfully just Giberish of what it appears to me looking like European letters...

Now if those Rumors of Francis Bacon to Leonardo Da Vinci having a Hand putting this book together..

were to be True (( Unlikely )) I would See why and WHY the way's around... Coding it to keep away Praying Eyes...


but my stand is Still... that this.. This VM Book is some kind of Almanac of some sort.. either a Home to Witch to Wizard's kind of Book ... but from the Date of it ( Sometime in the 15th Century ) as its claimed... wasn't there Prosecution during this time of Heretics, Blasphemy Sinners and Finger Pointing of Witches ?

edit on 23-2-2014 by Wolfenz because: (no reason given)

Ok, couldn't resist it.

SPOLIER FOLLOWS if you want to decrypt the message above don tread my translation below

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"Figuratively speaking....

...This messagae serves to prove how our minds can do amazing things! Impressive things! In the beginning it was hard but now, on this line your mind is reading it automatically without even thinking about it, Be proud! Only certain people can read this.Please forward if [you] can read this."

KaDeCo
After watching the video I have a difficult time believing that this method hadn't been tried before. So many people have attempted to break this coding, and not a single one of them thought "Hrm. Juniper. Let's try other languages." or "Hrm Taurus maybe this says 'Taurus'."

Maybe they haven't. I haven't followed the manuscripts closely enough to know what has and hasn't been tried, but the fact no one else has tried seems odd to me since this is a rather simple approach by taking what you know and applying it to the rest of the text.

I know books back in the day were expensive, but books when this manuscript was first 'rediscovered and sold' were not so expensive, and much less expensive than the profit that was earned from it. If it is a hoax and created by the sellers of the book when it resurfaced, it could just be a bunch of gibberish. I really hope it's not, however.

Reading about that document was an inspiration to me to read up on all the different languages there are, and find out more about all the 65000+ Unicode characters that there are (a replacement to ASCII with only 128 characters).

That double looped character is found in the Vai language: www.omniglot.com...

www.omniglot.com...

Another similar looking language is Georgian Nushkhuri: www.omniglot.com...

www.omniglot.com...

reply to post by andy06shake


I agree
They probably found the cure for the common cold
and many other ailments all the way up to and including
Cancer.
Can't let that info out to all.
It would be bye bye big Pharma and
Ton's of Doctors.

One thing to keep in mind, is that, from what I understand, these plants in book, do not exist and have never existed. This is very interesting fact in it self, some have said it is alien, from another planet, other than Earth. I don't think so, this is just my thought's on this manuscript.

I dom't beliwve this will ever be decoded, but I do have my own thought's as to what is behind this book.

One thing to keep in mind, is that, from what I understand, these plants in book, do not exist and have never existed. This is very interesting fact in it self, some have said it is alien, from another planet, other than Earth. I don't think so, this is just my thought's on this manuscript.

I dom't beliwve this will ever be decoded, but I do have my own thought's as to what is behind this book.

I dont know if this has been covered here but I heard that there is a connection between the language of the manuscript and the Nahuatl language.

reply to post by sneaglebob12


I was waiting for that, it
took quite sometime for anybody to pull up that connection, which was just published.
The language is an extinct dialect of nahuatl and the manuscript is in the approriate style fir the period( mid to late 1500''s) and the plants represent meso American varities.

a reply to: Wolfenz

"Bravo"?

So now we are supposed to be AMAZED by 1337sp33k, when normally, people would roll their eyes and groan in the face of such juvenile childishness. I mean, you can't find a more 'teenage' language than leetspeak (gasp, I actually wrote it normally, I must be such a 14m4h).

When you grow out of such silliness, it's pretty hard to get 'amazed' by it..

How low is the so-called 'humanity' of this planet sinking, when now we are supposed to be 'amazed' by the stupidity of the teenagers? I think 1337sp33k originally existed to cover up the fact that the teens don't know proper grammar. And now we are supposed to celebrate and applaud it, and be amazed by it.. groan!

In any case, my take on Voynich Manuscript is that it's an informative Druid book, written by Druids, for Druids, and in code, so that the church (and the other persecutors of innocent healers and 'knowers' of the nature's and the Universe's secrets) wouldn't cause problems.

Another reason could be that those herbs and other plants that seem to not exist anymore (herbs are disappearing, sadly), can be very powerful, and the information about them in the wrong hands could cause lots of grief, pain and destruction.

The church persecuted innocent healers just for having realized the balance of the five elements, that the church didn't of course understand, so they started imagining seeing the image of the beast in that innocent, star-shaped description of how the energy flows work (you can find it in the thousands of years old chinese wisdom books about human health and energy - the chinese take the truth of the five elements as an obvious fact, unlike most westerners).

So obviously the druids had to be really careful about all that, and when they wanted to document their information and findings, and the secrets they found and figured out, they had to come up with a way that wouldn't land them in hot water with the 'authorities' - they couldn't use easy-to-understand figures and language. I think they invented their own language with divine guidance (or something).

It looks like the actual images and pictures have been drawn with a completely different individual(s) than the one(s) that actually wrote the text.

As a symbolic, descriptive comparison one could say that it's almost like the text has been written by a higher being, an Extra-Terrestrial visitor, and then the images have been drawn by the Earth-dwellers that worship them. Perhaps there was a time constraint, perhaps they couldn't get an actual artist to draw the images, or maybe Voynich Manuscript is a copy of some original book, where the texts were copied by someone skilled, but the images were just quickly sketched by someone not-so-skilled.. I don't really know.

But it seems like there's a huge discrepancy between the text style and the almost childishly primitive image quality.

It's fun to ponder what might have happened, but until one learns to read Akasha directly, or meditates and elevates his consciousness, or permanently leaves the physical body and then goes to talk to the elders, it's probably quite impossible to know how it all went down back then.

Beautiful penmanship, though - as far as the text is concerned.

originally posted by: Shoujikina
a reply to: Wolfenz

"Bravo"?

So now we are supposed to be AMAZED by 1337sp33k, when normally, people would roll their eyes and groan in the face of such juvenile childishness. I mean, you can't find a more 'teenage' language than leetspeak (gasp, I actually wrote it normally, I must be such a 14m4h).

When you grow out of such silliness, it's pretty hard to get 'amazed' by it..

How low is the so-called 'humanity' of this planet sinking, when now we are supposed to be 'amazed' by the stupidity of the teenagers? I think 1337sp33k originally existed to cover up the fact that the teens don't know proper grammar. And now we are supposed to celebrate and applaud it, and be amazed by it.. groan!

In any case, my take on Voynich Manuscript is that it's an informative Druid book, written by Druids, for Druids, and in code, so that the church (and the other persecutors of innocent healers and 'knowers' of the nature's and the Universe's secrets) wouldn't cause problems.

Another reason could be that those herbs and other plants that seem to not exist anymore (herbs are disappearing, sadly), can be very powerful, and the information about them in the wrong hands could cause lots of grief, pain and destruction.

The church persecuted innocent healers just for having realized the balance of the five elements, that the church didn't of course understand, so they started imagining seeing the image of the beast in that innocent, star-shaped description of how the energy flows work (you can find it in the thousands of years old chinese wisdom books about human health and energy - the chinese take the truth of the five elements as an obvious fact, unlike most westerners).

So obviously the druids had to be really careful about all that, and when they wanted to document their information and findings, and the secrets they found and figured out, they had to come up with a way that wouldn't land them in hot water with the 'authorities' - they couldn't use easy-to-understand figures and language. I think they invented their own language with divine guidance (or something).

It looks like the actual images and pictures have been drawn with a completely different individual(s) than the one(s) that actually wrote the text.

As a symbolic, descriptive comparison one could say that it's almost like the text has been written by a higher being, an Extra-Terrestrial visitor, and then the images have been drawn by the Earth-dwellers that worship them. Perhaps there was a time constraint, perhaps they couldn't get an actual artist to draw the images, or maybe Voynich Manuscript is a copy of some original book, where the texts were copied by someone skilled, but the images were just quickly sketched by someone not-so-skilled.. I don't really know.

But it seems like there's a huge discrepancy between the text style and the almost childishly primitive image quality.

It's fun to ponder what might have happened, but until one learns to read Akasha directly, or meditates and elevates his consciousness, or permanently leaves the physical body and then goes to talk to the elders, it's probably quite impossible to know how it all went down back then.

Beautiful penmanship, though - as far as the text is concerned.

I Agree ,

The Same as the Famous French Predictionist Nostradamus, when he Wrote his Quatrains of to Keep Religion Away
from Prosecuting Him as a Heretic Blasphemes For Druids just May be not so Sure about if The Ancient Druids would of made a Almanac. Stars ,Constellations that I can See.. but I Do agree with you.. The Colorization was Tedious making the Color From Scratch and the material that it is made out of Animal Skins .. It Seems it wouldn't of been made by a Commoner or Peasant .. let alone the Time Consumption.. It Would of been Expensive.. otherwise in in their Day.. but in those days .. There Could of been alot of Languages and Scripts Writings near the end to their extinction in the 15th century. Hell.. there were People Speaking Ancient Celtic Anglo Saxon type Languages
but I tend to think as you believe extreme encrypt Codec Writing ..

If you Want to go to the Alien Conspiracy Realm Section


Just a Few of the Symbols Glyphs what have you kinda look like the Vonich Manuscript Writing



Ganchi Writing with Info
www.anomalies-unlimited.com...


The SO CALLED ALIEN Writing from the SO Called Apollo 20 Mission aka ( Hoax )




To Notes : Some Symbols look like that look similar what is in the Vonich Manuscript ( only a hand full )

Edwin Smith Papyrus (written in Hieratic)

Authorship of the Edwin Smith Papyrus is debated. The majority of the papyrus was written by one scribe, with only small sections written by a second scribe. The papyrus ends abruptly in the middle of a line, without any inclusion of an author. It is believed that the papyrus is based upon an earlier text from the Old Kingdom. Form and commentary included in the papyrus give evidence to the existence of an earlier document. The text is attributed by some to Imhotep, an architect, high priest, and physician of the Old Kingdom, 3000-2500 B.C.

The History of Writing
realhistoryww.com...

It Could be different types of Ancient Letter Symbols ? Reaching I know ..

Back in the 15th Century it was Only Scribes and the Highly Educated that had Written . a tiny percentage of the population.. In Europe , but in the along the Mediterranean to the Middle east Northern Africa and China that's a different Story ..

Another Example .. is Look at the Aztec Mayan Writing just in the late last Century we began to Decipher..

unfortunately most of it was lost because of a extremest Priest Diego de Landa claimed the Pre Columbia Writing was made by the Devil and had them burned or Smashed to bits !

Diego de Landa Calderón (12 November, 1524 – 1579)

was a Spanish bishop of the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Yucatán. He left future generations with a mixed legacy in his writings, which contain much valuable information on pre-Columbian Maya civilization, and his actions which destroyed much of that civilization's history, literature, and traditions. He is a major figure in the so-called "Black Legend".

en.wikipedia.org...

Let alone the Library of Alexandria Destroyed by Religion as Claimed ..
that Could relieved a lot of Mysteries of the World

a reply to: InTheLight
I could be wrong but weren't some of the plant pictures unidentified..very cool mystery this book.