Two American security contractors found dead aboard Maersk Alabama

reply to post by TDawgRex


I hear ya brother...prior myself....I wish I could remember the name of the feller that told me that story...it made me grow up real fast though haha.

And I think you said it best...they moved into a "cushy" job but where they could still play the game...

The company they work for was founded and run by fomer SEALs. They were both 44 and while the cause of death has not been revealed they have said they do not suspect foul play nor did have anything to do with thier duties on the ship. Madagascar where they were docked is a hub for drug trafficking. I would suspect we will find it is drug related most likely overdoses. And yes former SEALs have drug problems just like regular people as this article will attest.

Last year, 21 special warfare sailors were discharged after failing drug tests. In 2002, positive tests forced out 32 sailors assigned to Naval Special Warfare.

Navy SEALs caught up in drug sweep

buster2010

ANNED
Two highly trained sailors (navy seals)dieing at the same time on a ship.

From a shipboard accident????? these guys were highly trained for shipboard emergencies. Better then the crews of civilian ships

not likely!!!!!

drug use was one thing that would automatically get navy seals kicked off the teams.

so drug use is very unlikely.

These guys were not Seals they were out of the Navy.

Once you are a Navy Seal, you are always a Navy Seal. On duty, off duty, or retired Navy Seal

alienreality

buster2010

ANNED
Two highly trained sailors (navy seals)dieing at the same time on a ship.

From a shipboard accident????? these guys were highly trained for shipboard emergencies. Better then the crews of civilian ships

not likely!!!!!

drug use was one thing that would automatically get navy seals kicked off the teams.

so drug use is very unlikely.

These guys were not Seals they were out of the Navy.

Once you are a Navy Seal, you are always a Navy Seal. On duty, off duty, or retired Navy Seal

And what? SpecOps guys can't go bad? Gimme a break. I've seen it myself while serving.

Once out, a former SEAL, a former operator, nothing more, nothing less. It doesn't automatically make them good guys. They are people too.

reply to post by TDawgRex


Yeah, I didn't say that Seals are above becoming bad guys.

They could have been into something bad..

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I'm thinking it was a industrial accident that they were not familiar with. However, if there were holes in them, then we should see something more. Who knows?

It could go three ways...

1: They were bad guys trying to smuggle something out.

2: They were good guys trying to stop smuggling of some sort.

3: They were doing a security sweep of the ship and were over come by fumes from some unknown source.

I wonder if they worked for Dick Marchinko's outfit...I wouldn't put it past that asshat to further his lagging book sales. The man is a narcissist beyond reproach as far as I am concerned.

reply to post by TDawgRex


Ships are dangerous places. If you're low in the boat and the compartment you're in is pretty tight, something innocuous like popping a CO2 fire extinguisher on the next deck up can kill you by displacing the air.

TDawgRex
And what? SpecOps guys can't go bad? Gimme a break. I've seen it myself while serving.

Especially Navy types. Low lifes, every one.

"The men worked for Virginia-based Trident Group and had boarded the ship Jan. 29. Their deaths were "not related to vessel operations or their duties as security personnel," Maersk Line spokeswoman Meredith Siviter said in a statement."

reply to post by MrSpad


Yep I betting drug overdose. Many people want a huge involved story sometime it really is just a duck.

www.cnn.com...


Two American security officers have been found dead on the Maersk Alabama container ship, police in the Seychelles said Wednesday.

Two American security contractors were former Navy SEALs, executive says
"It's bizarre. Of course, it's a shock. They're all great guys," executive adds
"Contracted security is part of anti-piracy protection plans," firm spokesman says
A colleague found the bodies in a ship cabin when checking up on one of the men.

CNN first learned about the incident on Twitter.

Frightening!

Sounds like it was an inside job. They are being very secretive about the cause of death.

StoutBroux
Sounds like it was an inside job. They are being very secretive about the cause of death.

That's because they haven't finished investigating...or even done a autopsy yet, much less done a toxicology test yet. These things take time.

They at least released the names and ages today.

Just because they were former SEALs doesn't mean that there is a conspiracy behind each of their deaths. Sometimes, people just die. Did I just say sometimes...I meant everytime.

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Drug use will get you kicked out if the military. That being said plenty of soldiers including (this I know as a fact) navy seals do drugs. So don't think they don't put amphetamines and coke derivatives in their body. A lot do if given the chance.

Seals die just as easily as anyone else.

Navy seals are probably not better sailors than the actual crew of most well run ships manned by professionals. Even though a lot of seals are boatswains mates. They provably didn't even know the boat as well as the crew.

Stop believing what you see in video games. Seals are people too.

Drugs discovered in room with ex-SEALs

opethPA
Drugs discovered in room with ex-SEALs

Yep its going to an overdose. And it turns out only one was an ex-SEAL, the other had just worked for the unit.

Okay..... First, they only found a small amount of drugs in the vicinity of which they both died, no positive results as to whether there were drugs in their system. Second, if one former security person died of a possible overdose...plausible. But two of them at the exact same time....suspicious. I don't see two former seals/operators injecting themselves at the very same time then ditching the needles/paraphernalia and the drugs and then flopping over dead. The effects from heroin are almost immediate. For them both to die of overdosing on heroin....I'm sorry but it just doesn't happen. I've had 15 years dealing with OD's on the street as a medic...I've never seen two people die like that unless it was intentional. Foul play should be suspected until proven otherwise. It just doesn't add up. Considering their area of operations and it's history of hijacking and crime someone else is responsible for this. I'm gonna say they were killed first and the drugs were thrown in or someone used drugs to kill them. Truly, that makes a whole lot more sense than them acting on their own. Now, let's find out who killed two US citizens.

I feel compeled to point out that :

" drugs in room "

is a criminal offence / discipliniary affair , not a cause of death

we are still waiting for " cause of death " to be announced

There's no way 2 former Seals were physically overpowered without obvious signs of a fight.Drugs found in the cabin will prove significant I think.

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as a medic I would expect you to be aware that not all drugs are injectable , and as a pure speculation - if both injested pills from a contaminated / adulterated source they would both die

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where did " physically overpowered " come from ????