whats stopping jesus from incarnating again?

reply to post by DISRAELI

Suddenly and visible to everyone, and "coming with power and great glory", with all the power of God.

Already happened.
Paul talks about the fading glory of Moses, which is a metaphor of the old temple cult religion of Jerusalem being replaced by Christianity.
The final stroke that marked its demise with a sharp point came suddenly when the Roman Legions destroyed the city in 70 AD.

well, considering Jesus was conceived by a simple whisper into the virgin's ear. I'd be more inclined to wonder about HOW he would return.

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just wanted to thank you, undo for coming here and giving me your insight.

reply to post by Belcastro


Jesus was God manifest in the flesh. He came to serve a purpose, and that purpose has been served. He certainly could reincarnate if He wanted to, because He is sovereign and can do whatever He wants, but what would the reason be? What purpose would it serve? He has already served His purpose. Jesus is returning soon, but it will be in the same resurrected form that He was in when He rose from the grave and ascended to Heaven in.

reply to post by OptimusSubprime

Jesus is returning soon . . .

Why do you think that . . and why would he, exactly . . . and does that even make any sense?

What's stopping Jesus from incarnating again? A severe shortage of wise men and virgins.

Belcastro
..whats stopping jesus from incarnating on earth again?
why couldnt jesus incarnate again if he existed before his incarnation?
I personally believe jesus should experience what its like to be a modern day human.

He doesnt need to; he fulfilled his 'appointed' role as chief god in the Piscean aeon; 251 BC. to 1904 A.D. Each aeon has its 'slain and sacrificed God' Osiris as a template for Jesus. The Piscean age had all of the the properties of Pisces: devotion, religious establishments, sacrifice (fear god) corporate entity foundings, armies to combat enemies. In the Aquarian Age, which started in 1904 A.D. Horus is the crowned and conquering child or the 'god' of the complete man. The Age of Aquarius represents technology; Nano, communications, Psychiatry, Hard science or the tools for men to develop perfection that is wholistic (holistic medicine/coffee bars/the GREEN movement). In this aeon we need no saviors, we have vibrated above such notions. I think Jesus would like being a modern day man, BUT NOT IF he had to arrive from scratch with an erased memory (just like the rest of us) with no prior knowledge of who he was in a past life.

reply to post by vethumanbeing


is horus depicted as mars? if not, then horus is not the crowned and conquering king.

there's really only one way he would be and that is if he was a prior avatar of jesus. but that would mean that all pharaohs were avatars of jesus, all the way back to before narmer, predating post black sea flood pharaonic dynasties. that would also mean that osiris predated the black sea flood and predated the narmer pharaonic dynasties. and that would mean that conquering king is just a repeat of all the other conquering kings of the past.

problem with that is, that's not what the info suggests or even outright says. for example, the text says the jews were expecting a conquering king but got a guy who was basically preaching forgiveness instead of war. apparently, nobody listened.

undo
reply to post by vethumanbeing

 

is horus depicted as mars? if not, then horus is not the crowned and conquering king.
there's really only one way he would be and that is if he was a prior avatar of jesus. but that would mean that all pharaohs were avatars of jesus, all the way back to before narmer, predating post black sea flood pharaonic dynasties. that would also mean that osiris predated the black sea flood and predated the narmer pharaonic dynasties. and that would mean that conquering king is just a repeat of all the other conquering kings of the past.

Osiris is the template for Jesus/Horus. In the Aquarian age Horus rules as Jesus did in the Picean. Aquarius is ruled by Uranus; so no, not Mars. Why would you think in this age a warrior king would rule by Mars in the Piscean? as Jesus was not a warrior. Khem ruled the prior age of Aries. Yes, the templates for 'king' are what they are overlays for the next ruler to afix to or fit into the mold.

undoproblem with that is, that's not what the info suggests or even outright says. for example, the text says the jews were expecting a conquering king but got a guy who was basically preaching forgiveness instead of war. apparently, nobody listened.

I dont see a problem with this I see it as a failed psychotic expection that was never to manifest (as the warrior savior). You have no idea the irony surrounding all of this; the Jews expecting Osiris to produce their savior via Horus/Jesus? I thought they embraced Yahweh, and Osiris is a completely different Egyption God (why observe the slavemasters tenents). Yahweh did not produce Jesus, just Abraham and Moses.

reply to post by vethumanbeing


the mars metaphors of jesus as the conquering king:

dressed in a robe of red
eyes glowing like fire (red)
many crowns (moons)
white hair (snow capped)

jesus as aries the ram (adult male sheep) = jesus as conquering king,
the metaphor is mars
the ram of egypt = khnum, said to derive from the earlier atum,
god of creation, rebirth.
Divine Potter and Lord of created things from himself.
en.wikipedia.org...
The Israelites were instructed to mark the doorposts of
their homes with the blood of a slaughtered spring lamb
en.wikipedia.org...
jesus as the slaughtered spring lamb, returning as
the conquering adult ram.

or something like that.

undo
reply to post by vethumanbeing

 

the mars metaphors of jesus as the conquering king:
dressed in a robe of red
eyes glowing like fire (red)
many crowns (moons)
white hair (snow capped)

Mars metaphors do not work here for Jesus (not for the Jews as their messiah)
Find out what planet rules Pisces (Jesus-Age of Pisces aeon) and you will have a better understanding. You are thinking of the one prior Age of Aries, Khem as its messiah; Mars.

vethumanbeing

undo
reply to post by vethumanbeing

 

the mars metaphors of jesus as the conquering king:
dressed in a robe of red
eyes glowing like fire (red)
many crowns (moons)
white hair (snow capped)

Mars metaphors do not work here for Jesus (not for the Jews as their messiah)
Find out what planet rules Pisces (Jesus-Age of Pisces aeon) and you will have a better understanding. You are thinking of the one prior Age of Aries, Khem as its messiah; Mars.

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it's a metaphor for the lamb, who in his adult form is the ram. the hebrews didn't view the zodiac as a fortune telling device but a device for keeping track of seasons. when applied to prophecy, the prophecy had nothing to do with the zodiac signs. the signs were only there to act as metaphors. for example, the great red dragon was also the draco constellation and the woman who was pregnant with the sun, was virgo constellation. but that's only one layer of the information.

reply to post by Belcastro


Who's to say that Jesus isn't already coming back in The Hearts of Men?

"...[w]e have even greater confidence in the message proclaimed by the prophets. You must pay close attention to what they wrote, for their words are like a lamp shining in a dark place--until the Day dawns, and Christ the Morning Star shines in your hearts." - 2 Peter 1:19

DISRAELI
reply to post by Belcastro

 

The short answer is - "because he said he wouldn't".
Matthew ch24 vv23-27 If you are invited to go somewhere to see the returned "Christ", he must by defintion be a fake. So don't do it, he says.
That shows that he was not expecting to be born on earth again where people could go and see him.
On the contrary, his arrival would actually be sudden and evident to everyone at the same time ("as lightning shines from east to west") and would be "coming with power and great glory" (v30) rather than as an ordinary man.

As lightning shines from east to west + Matthew verses you quoted.

So... This rules out media... And if I am correct, will the antichrist will be announced and proclaimed via media (television)?

So if lightning shines in the sky from east to west for everyone to see, will a huge scaled figure of Jesus appear?

I think I may be able answer this for you.
The planet has living DNA called the grid. This is what people believe are the "akashik records".
The issue is the grid can only show fractals of individual DNA to the observer so its different depending on DNA.

Jesus exists as a fractal of information within the grid because either
1. He existed and through stories he is remembered
2. He was complete fiction who now exists as a fractal because of peoples beliefs in texts so much.

He can never return nor can anyone who has dies. What can happen is the information is downloaded into our brains and through lack of free will we can believe anything we want which gives parasitical memes/information abilities to manipulate our nervous system.

So yeah someone's going to claim Jesus, but unless enough people believe he is who he says he is it cant be real.
Now I would ask what is his actual name because people cant even seem to agree on that lol
Then you would need a certificate of birth that showed you were born in fact 2000 years ago.

I mean this is a lot of work for a hoax

The Christ you speak of has tried to come forth already; a few times in the last couple of years.

He knows who he is; and who he is SUPPOSED to be. But he is not being ALLOWED to be this.

The Churches would rather try and TAKE what he brings; and then change it to suit themselves. But he wont allow it this time.

You need to remember that he is born a man; and does not awaken to who he is until he is an adult. Each time he has tried to bring forth the light in this life; the Archons of the Church have tried to steal it from him. So he has had to send it away.

What's stopping him? Evil! Basically. But not the evil of the world. The evil of the Church.

You are talking about a Church which makes a habit of labeling him as evil, or demon-possessed (John 8), then stealing his word/teachings every time he comes; after they kill him.

They are trying to do it again.

The 'Light' consciousness; is within the Master of Hosts (Lord of Hosts). The one who is able to be not only 'The Light', but also any of the other Archangels; and Divine entities he needs to be; to bring the word. This is what the meaning of 'Host' is. For the man is just the vessel. The light comes 'through' him. To do his work. Much like 'channeling' a spirit. Except it is a soul he is channeling. And only the chosen can do this.

Because the Archons have been upon him for years; trying to steal the light. He has sent it away indefinitely; and instead brought the Archangel Samael. The not-so-nice one!!

This is why it is written that one would come 'INSTEAD OF CHRIST' (Antioschristos means INSTEAD OF Christ; not Anti-Christ).

He is here to clean up the Archons; take out the trash; and then ... He will bring forth the light.

OH .. And the Host; has already intentionally given himself to death and been resurrected (Literally) .. This was done so that this part of the prophecy was fulfilled before anyone in the world even knew he was here.

So that he would NOT be killed again; by those seeking to do so; once they realise who he is.

Also; I'm sorry to tell you this; but none of you will probably ever know that the one you are hoping for is here; or was here.

They will never take the name Jesus; or come public. And anyone that does; is a fraud!