Flu Shot Reduces Risk of Autism

Mods, I tried to post this in "Breaking Alternative News " but the post button cannot be found.
From Everyday Health, by Dr Dr Sanjay Gupta MD.
www.everydayhealth.com...
"Greg Poland, MD, a researcher at the Mayo Clinic has been studying the flu virus for a quarter century. He says you can think of the flu vaccine as an “anti-autism vaccine.”

It’s a startling statement, but it is backed up by several recent studies. Dr. Poland says pregnant women who get influenza have double or triple the risk of having a child with autism. So preventing flu during pregnancy is vital.

The rubella vaccine also decreases the risk of having a child with autism, but the rubella vaccine must be given before a woman gets pregnant.

The flu vaccine is safe at any stage of pregnancy, but pregnant women get the flu shot, not the nasal spray."

What a brilliant discovery! Those women that have children that are autistic can now have some peace of mind that, as mothers, their bodies were not defective! I say this because I have personally treated autistic children across the country, and through listening to the emotional plight of the mothers, this "defective" topic, sadly rears it's ugly head. They may have just fallen victim to the flu.
Gregory A. Poland, M.D., studies the immunogenetics of vaccine response in adults and children at the Mayo clinic, and has received funding from the National Institutes of Health since 1991. This is one of the physicians that are unraveling the secrets, of the immune response phenotype-genotype information, and educates us on how vaccine-induced immune responses and vaccine-related adverse events may be genetically determined. I'm sure there are those people, that are very very educated, will find some " flaw " in his research and spew argumentum ad hominem's until the cows come home. However, The understanding of why some children get autism, or MS, or any other disease is imperative to the survival of man kind.
I applaud this mans endeavor.
For those who would like to view the video by Dr Sanjay Gupta MD, please visit the link,
www.everydayhealth.com...

This whole vaccine causes/prevents autism thing reminds me of the Butter/Margarine wars of the good old days... smh.


For those that don't remember or are too young to, there were studies claiming butter was bad for you, and margarine was good, and then studies that margarine was bad for you, and butter was good.

For virtually EVERY topic of this nature, there are, or are going to be opposing studies; live the way you want, and stop listening to this crap!

***EDIT***
OP, this post is not directed against you, it's directed at the damage to the psyche of the public that these back and forth studies cause.

reply to post by ProfessorChaos


This nonsense has reached a point where we don't know what or who to trust anymore.

Let's not forget smoking cigarette was once promoted by scientific studies.

so when you're pregnant you should get a flu shot to reduce the risk of autism then have the baby and get the MMR jab and increase the risks of Autism again? or do they cancel each other out? or should we just trust our natural immune system that's kept us alive through the filth and squalor of many ages past... hmmm... Ill stick to just my immune system, doing my family ok so far....

Gregory A. Poland, M.D., studies the immunogenetics of vaccine response in adults and children at the Mayo clinic, and has received funding from the National Institutes of Health since 1991.

His findings are not the least bit surprising considering where he gets his funding. If the results were not favorable, the funding would have stopped.

Funny how all the independent research (non-government funded) shows the exact opposite. Somebody is 'cooking the books', and people would be wise to find out which side is in the kitchen!

funding ...yep
having recently discovered I have an asd ( autism spectrum disorder ), and looking back on the cost to me personally...if it is ever proven that vaccines cause ASDs...
I'm telling you....no punishment to the pervayors of such quakery will be enough.

No one should stick anything in them selve suntil there are unimpeachable studies proving vaccines are safe beyond a shadow of a doubt...if they are totally safe should be no problem...
so,...where are those studies?

Researchers studied the records of 96,736 children who were born in Denmark between 1997 and 2003. Their mothers were asked about infections and fevers they suffered during pregnancy or just after giving birth. They were also asked about whether they’d taken antibiotics during that period. They found no link between common maternal infections, like respiratory, urinary tract or genital infections, and a child’s risk of autism, according to a release from the journal Pediatrics, which published the article online Monday.

reference for my above post

Link found between flu and autism risk during pregnancy, study says Add to ...
Pregnant women who are on the fence about whether to get a flu shot this season may want to talk to their doctor about new research suggesting it could help prevent autism in their children.

A study out Monday has found that getting the flu or having a fever during pregnancy may be linked to a higher risk of autism in children. Worrying news, of course to women who are already on alert for everything from their diet to their mental health.

www.theglobeandmail.com...

Study: Flu Vaccine Causes 5.5 Times More Respiratory Infections – A True Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated Study

healthimpactnews.com...

note the bit about antibiotics above

Vaccinated Children Five Times More Prone To Disease Than Unvaccinated Children

An ongoing study out of Germany comparing disease rates among vaccinated and unvaccinated children points to a pretty clear disparity between the two groups as far as illness rates are concerned.

As reported by the group Health Freedom Alliance, children who have been vaccinated according to official government schedules are up to five times more likely to contract a preventable disease than children who developed their own immune systems naturally without vaccines.

What The Study Revealed
Released as its own preliminary study back in September 2011, the survey includes data on 8,000 unvaccinated children whose overall disease rates were compared to disease rates among the general population, the vast majority of which has been vaccinated. And in every single disease category, unvaccinated children fared far better than vaccinated children in terms of both disease prevalence and severity. In other words, the evidence suggests that vaccines are neither effective nor safe.

"No study of health outcomes of vaccinated people versus unvaccinated has ever been conducted in the U.S. by CDC or any other agency in the 50 years or more of an accelerating schedule of vaccinations (now over 50 doses of 14 vaccines given before kindergarten, 26 doses in the first year)," wrote Louis Rain back in 2011 for Health Freedom Alliance about the survey.

How The Health Of Vaccinated And Unvaccinated Children Compared
As disclosed at VaccineInjury.info, vaccinated children are nearly twice as likely as unvaccinated children to develop neurodermatitis, for instance, a skin disorder marked by chronic itching and scratching. Similarly, vaccinated children are about two-and-a-half times as likely, based on current data, to develop a pattern of migraine headaches compared to unvaccinated children.

The numbers are even more divergent for asthma and chronic bronchitis, where vaccinated children are about eight times more likely than unvaccinated children to develop such respiratory problems. Vaccinated children are also far more likely to develop hyperactivity, hayfever, and thyroid disease, with their likelihood three times, four times, and a shocking 17 times higher, respectively, compared to unvaccinated children.

Autism Extremely Rare Among Unvaccinated Children

Where the gloves really come off on the issue, however, is with autism, the long-held point of contention in the vaccine safety debate. According to the data, only four of the 8,000 unvaccinated children that were included in the 2011 release of the study responded as having severe autism, which is a mere half of one percent of the overall population. Meanwhile the autism rate among the general population, as tabulated in the German KiGGS study used for comparison, is about 1.1 percent.

This means that vaccinated children are about 2.5 times more likely to develop severe autism compared to unvaccinated children

foodmatters.tv...

this REALLY ticks me off

reply to post by Danbones

An "ongoing study" by who. Where is the published study? Oh wait. It wasn't a study. It wasn't published. It was a survey.

Released as its own preliminary study back in September 2011, the survey includes data on 8,000 unvaccinated children whose overall disease rates were compared to disease rates among the general population, the vast majority of which has been vaccinated.

But back on topic the link between autism and prenatal flu has been studied for a while. From 2012.

A new Danish study now reveals a link between influenza and fever episodes lasting more than a week during pregnancy and infantile autism.

sciencenordic.com...

But you know those Danes. Can't trust 'em.

reply to post by Phage


You didn't post the important part though.

Influenza may increase the risk of infantile autism
sciencenordic.com...

The study has been cited by media all over the world, but the study’s lead author tells ScienceNordic that due to methodological limitations of the study, the new findings shouldn’t be regarded as a cause for worry:

“If I were pregnant, I wouldn’t get vaccinated against the flu or worry unduly,” says Hjördis Osk Atladóttir, MD, PhD, of Aarhus University’s Department of Public Health, who was the lead author of the new study, published in the journal Pediatrics.

Autism After Infection, Febrile Episodes, and Antibiotic Use During Pregnancy: An Exploratory Study
pediatrics.aappublications.org...

-FBB

reply to post by FriedBabelBroccoli

An odd thing to say since the study showed that twice as many kids had autism with mothers who had an extended fever. I suppose there are other causes than flu for an extended fever but flu is right up there.

Another study on prenatal fever:

Of the 1,122 children in the study, more than half (538) had autism. Another 163 children had other developmental disorders, and 421 were normally developing children. The participants are involved in larger study aimed at understanding the causes of autism.

www.livescience.com...

Autism After Infection, Febrile Episodes, and Antibiotic Use During Pregnancy: An Exploratory Study

Thanks. Your source:

However, our data suggest that maternal influenza infection was associated with a twofold increased risk of infantile autism, prolonged episodes of fever caused a threefold increased risk of infantile autism, and use of various antibiotics during pregnancy were potential risk factors for ASD/infantile autism.

pediatrics.aappublications.org...
Looks like prenatal flu and fever are probably linked to autism.

reply to post by Violater1

The understanding of why some children get autism, or MS, or any other disease is imperative to the survival of man kind.

You put Autism and Multiple Sclerosis in the same category?

So not having Autism and preventing it is imperative to the survival of mankind? I can't even believe you said that.
I don't even know what to say about that one without violating a mass amount of T&C's

Autism is not a disease.

Oh yeah, wasn't it just the other day that everyone was ranting about how vaccines cause autism?

Oh and 1 more thing, Discussions in the medical and psychological community are suggesting that it may not even be a "disorder" but a "difference."

You're misinformed.

As for the actual topic of your thread, you lost me at the "survival of mankind" speech
But on any note, I think I've read enough of your thread... Thank you for sharing...

Yep. Lotta research.
scholar.google.com...

reply to post by Phage

As you can see, even though the authors claim that there was no distinction in cases of influenza between the subjects who received a vaccine and those who received the placebo, the reality seems to be quite different: There were a total of 116 influenza cases in the vaccinated group and 88 in the placebo group.
...

In summary, this study demonstrates:
Influenza vaccines provide no benefit.
Influenza vaccines cause a hugely increased number of respiratory illnesses.
Influenza vaccines—and very likely other vaccines—harm the innate cell-mediated immune response, which results in a significant increase in infectious disease incidents.
Nonetheless, our agencies of health destruction, such as the US’s alphabet soup of FDA, CDC, and NIH, the UK’s NHS, MHRA, and DOH, Australia’s ANPHA, and Canada’s Health Canada, plus the international WHO and massive foundations such as the Gates Foundation and GAVI—these and so many more routinely lie about the reality of vaccinations. They use fear tactics and lies to promote the profiteering of Big Pharma and Big Medicine at the expense of the populace, and worse, of our children.

healthimpactnews.com...
so mum should take the jab?

reply to post by Danbones

In spite of a gross distortion of the results of that study by Heidi Stevenson (whoever she is)? Yes.

Pregnant women might be at increased risk for complications from pandemic H1N1 virus infection. These data lend support to the present recommendation to promptly treat pregnant women with H1N1 influenza virus infection with anti-influenza drugs.

www.sciencedirect.com...

Our data support the recommendation that pregnant women with comorbidities should receive influenza vaccination regardless of their stage of pregnancy during the influenza season. Since hospital admissions because of respiratory illness during the influenza season were also increased among pregnant women without comorbidities, all pregnant women are likely to benefit from influenza vaccination.

www.cmaj.ca...

Influenza vaccine given to pregnant women is 91.5% effective in preventing hospitalization of their infants for influenza in the first 6 months of life.

cid.oxfordjournals.org...

These observations suggest that maternal immunization results in the presences of antibody titers against influenza A vaccine subtypes in a high proportion of mothers and their newborns. Our 6-month follow-up data show that passively acquired protective levels of serum antibody for A subtypes may be significantly greater in vaccinees than in controls up to 20 weeks of age.

www.nejm.org...

Influenza vaccination is an essential element of prenatal care. The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists' Committee on Obstetric Practice supports the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's expanded recommendation that women who will be pregnant during the influenza season (October through mid May) should be vaccinated.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

reply to post by Phage

nice post phage

here is something to consider though deaths are going up in the real world as vaccinations increase
[newsex]
Let’s look at the data again. This time let’s examine the mortality rate and vaccine coverage. You would expect that with an increasing vaccine coverage that the death rate would decline. After all, vaccines are supposed to protect the population from the disease that they target. When we look at that data we find something surprising – we find that as the coverage rate for vaccination improved the death rate actually increased not decreased.

( nice chart here )
The data shows that influenza and pneumonia deaths were 20-25 per 100,000 in the mid to yearly 1970s and increases to about 30 per 100,000 with a much greater flu vaccine coverage.

This phenomenon was reported by the CDC epidemiologists in 2003 as reported in an article in the journal Vaccine.[/newsex]

www.vaccinationcouncil.org...

reply to post by Danbones

You know what? I'm not interested in anti-vaccination nonsense.

I'm interested in actual research that show that autism is directly related to prenatal fever and influence. Guess what? Mortality isn't the issue here. Is it? Guess what? We aren't talking about flu and measles in the elderly here. Are we?

I'm interested in actual research that shows that flu vaccinations reduce prenatal and postnatal problems.

I'm not interested in anti-vaccination nonsense distorting actual research.

reply to post by Phage

after what you said about my reference here is what I am quoting from one of yours

study

so use the nonsense word carefully eh?
Im quoting actual real dead people

reply to post by Danbones

What is that supposed to mean?

reply to post by Phage


you poo pood my reference by saying it was a study
i just picked one of your sources at random..the hospital admittance study