Home Invasion Attempt Stopped By Woman With A Shotgun

Flatfish
reply to post by Wrabbit2000

 

I too think it's great that this lady was able to protect herself with her shotgun and I'd bet those burglars think twice before going on to their next job.

On the other hand, I don't see what this has to do with gun control. If anything, this just proves that you don't necessarily need an "assault weapon" in order to successfully defend yourself. Hell, I think V.P. Joe Biden even advocated for getting yourself a shotgun, didn't he?

While I'll admit that there are some extremist out there, most gun control advocates are not in favor of taking away a person's right to own guns for protection. We just don't see the need for military style assault weapons in the public realm. I think that lady's gun will hold five rounds max. and from what I could tell, she didn't have to fire a damn one of them to be effective.

Why do the public need Assault style weapons? THIS is why "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." In the event that the government becomes Tyrannical and fails to act in the interest of the People We, as American Citizens, Are to retake the Constitutional Republic. No one says that everyone has to participate. I get it, some lack the courage and the stomach to wage war, but don't interfere with those of us who can and will, because your yellow striped self just might need us one day.

reply to post by EyesOpenMouthShut


Those words were written at a time when the only unified military force protecting America was the Continental Army which was made up of members from individual colonial militias. Without those militias, we would have had no Army. That is not the case today.

On another note, you don't have to worry about me because I won't be standing in your way when you decide to defend yourself against what you perceive to be an all-out assault coming from your government. Won't do it, wouldn't be right.

Then again, you won't find me standing in their way when they lock your crazy asses up and throw away the keys either.

reply to post by Flatfish

I don't think that anyone in history has ever argued that someone on the scene of any crime has a longer response time than someone who isn't even there. So, what's your point?

Oh yeah they do people have been brainwashed in to dialing 911, and just wait for 'help' to arrive.

I do not believe that guns should be outlawed, but I do believe that there are certain weapons that should be kept out of the public realm or at least highly restricted.

Why ?

When the same people 'outlawing certain weapons' turns around and gives them to drug cartels, and 2 bit dictators across the globe.

They are fine in other peoples hands like the police, and the military, and hell criminals don't give a ratts behind about laws.

Never said anything of the sort. Apparently you just really love making # up, don't you

Nope EVERY single person who supports gun control laws SUPPORT the police state.

Have any idea what the second amendment is about or the rest of those amendments in the US CONSTITUTION ?

Read:

www.archives.gov...

Amendment II A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Doesn't say jacksnip bout hunting, nor does it say jacksnip about ''certain kinds'.

But wait it gets better:

Amendment VII In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

Guns cost more than 20 bucks thesedays

I want my GD day in court instead of being held accountable for actions I didn't do.

Amendment IX The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

The enumeration of rights in the Constitution have clearly been defined.

Hands off our guns.

PERIOD.

Amendment X The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Same thing here.

Hands off our guns.

Neither our next door neighbors or the US government has any right to tell any American what kind of gun they can own.

But hey that constitution is just a GD piece of paper anyways right ?

IMO, here's a better question; What good has the availability of assault weapons in the public realm done?

How about stop using a 90s political talking point 'assault weapon' . That is based on nothing, but how a gun looks.

reply to post by EyesOpenMouthShut


Well said!

I'm asked quite often why I need a high powered rifle with a 30 round mag to shoot Deer. I reply that I don't, but what does Deer hunting have to do with the second amendment?

reply to post by Flatfish

I don't think that anyone in history has ever argued that someone on the scene of any crime has a longer response time than someone who isn't even there. So, what's your point?

The point here, in the context of the OP, is pretty easy to see. But since neither of you are making divergent arguments then it is a settled matter...One hopes..

I do not believe that guns should be outlawed, but I do believe that there are certain weapons that should be kept out of the public realm or at least highly restricted.

Why? I have not heard a good reason as to why only "certain weapons". I have also not heard how this would NOT lead to the outlaw and confiscation of ALL weapons.

IMO, here's a better question; What good has the availability of assault weapons in the public realm done?

You mention assault weapons..But in reality the numbers show handguns to be involved in most crimes committed with guns. Not rifles, of ANY type, let alone AR15s. So why the push to ban weapons who are a statistical misnomer when it comes to the totality of crimes committed with guns in general?

The most popular rifle in America for law abiding citizens is the AR15 semi-auto rifle. More people own this rifle than any other in the US. If that is the case, shouldn't the so called "assault rifle" show up in crimes just as often as a 1911 handgun?

Since this isn't happening, perhaps it isn't the type of gun that is the problem...Maybe there are other factors of criminality you and those like you who wish to restrict access to reliable firepower are looking at?

Or perhaps this is just all kneejerk reactionary BS?

reply to post by KawRider9


Deer hunting, a good bolt action rifle. home defense, a good shotgun. personal protection, a trusted handgun. For everything else, Your AR. this isn't directed at anyone but Hey! lets outlaw certain guns! we all see how well outlawing drugs worked!

So does this dispel the myth that "The Socialist State of Kalifornia" is taking everyone's guns away?

reply to post by Flatfish


"Military style assualt weapons"? What does that even mean? It looks scary?

An AR15 functions the same as every other firearm. Pull the trigger and a bullet is fired. Just because it "looks" scary, you don't think people should have them?

Love the gun nuts who wiggle all over like fat little puppies over every perceived win for gun ownership. Since they lack critical thinking skills, they don't tell you the following:



If the perps were even armed.

that a good alarm or beware of dog sign would of thwarted any burglary attempt.

That 30% of house breakins aren't even forced.

In the incidence that someone happens to be home, 65% of the time, the burgler is known.

In only about 12% of burglaries where a homeowner was actually home, 12% of perps had a firearm.

A gun is far more likely to be used in a suicide or a homicide than ever for home invasion.

That a lot of burglaries are FOR the guns in the house. At least one handgun was stolen in 63 percent of household burglaries and 68 percent of other property crimes involving firearm theft. More than one gun was stolen in 39 percent of burglaries and 15 percent of other property crimes involving gun theft. 232,400 are stolen each year.


So yea gun nuts, whoop it up.

KawRider9
reply to post by Flatfish

 

"Military style assualt weapons"? What does that even mean? It looks scary?

An AR15 functions the same as every other firearm. Pull the trigger and a bullet is fired. Just because it "looks" scary, you don't think people should have them?

larger round, higher round velocity, higher damage to tissue.

You get the point..

reply to post by nixie_nox

If the perps were even armed.
that a good alarm or beware of dog sign would of thwarted any burglary attempt.
That 30% of house breakins aren't even forced.
In the incidence that someone happens to be home, 65% of the time, the burgler is known.
In only about 12% of burglaries where a homeowner was actually home, 12% of perps had a firearm.
A gun is far more likely to be used in a suicide or a homicide than ever for home invasion.

To quote one of the gun control best known supporter: What difference does it makes?

video of a competent robber according to family guy

reply to post by nixie_nox

Love the gun nuts who wiggle all over like fat little puppies over every perceived win for gun ownership. Since they lack critical thinking skills, they don't tell you the following:

Love the antigunners who wiggle all over the government taking guns away from the people, and telling them what kinds they can own.

When it has historically been proven the people who can't be trusted with their guns is overwhelmingly the US government.

That does show a lack of critical thinking skills.

reply to post by muse7


The 5.56mm round is no larger out of a ruger ranch rifle than it is out of the ar15. It is also no faster, nor does it boast any difference in ballistic efficacy.

A standard .270 winchester deer rifle hits harder, farther, and expands far beyond the performance of a standard 5.56.

It would really help your argument to know what you're talking about.

muse7

KawRider9
reply to post by Flatfish

 

"Military style assualt weapons"? What does that even mean? It looks scary?

An AR15 functions the same as every other firearm. Pull the trigger and a bullet is fired. Just because it "looks" scary, you don't think people should have them?

larger round, higher round velocity, higher damage to tissue.

You get the point..

Are you serious ?

The AR fires .223 round same round as 'hunting'.

I think the shotgun is the best weapon for home defense.

Easy to aim and fire especially with little training. Especially if you don't have time to find your glasses etc.

reply to post by muse7


Larger round my hairy rear. If you don't own a gun, or know anything about the subject, it's best to steer clear of it. The "Assault Rifle" most commonly demonized is the "Military" looking AR-15, which fires .223 rounds. That is the civilian equivalent of 5.56, same round as the military. Guess what though. The rounds freaking tiny, kicks like a BB gun. These "Assault Rifles" are no different than a hunting rifle with a few minor exceptions. Magazine size being the biggest one. All this equating "Assault rifles" with fully automatic machines of absolute destruction has to stop before this topic can even be discussed in a relevant way.

reply to post by muse7


Actually, an AR 15 shoots .223 ammo, which is about the same projectile as a 22 rifle. If you want a big bullet, you need to look at the .308 or 7.62.

An AR-15 just looks menacing. One of the most common .22LR guns is the Marlin/Glenfield rifle and they shoot 18 shots through a tube fed magazine.

A gun is a gun. Any of them can kill. Amazingly, none of them can do it without a human at one end.

Fear the bad man, don't fear guns.

reply to post by CellDamage420

Magazine size being the biggest one. All this equating "Assault rifles" with fully automatic machines of absolute destruction has to stop before this topic can even discussed in a relevant way.

Yeah they manufactured that term since 'machine guns' are heavily regulated these days and are well out of the grasp of most Americans.

And have to go through an enema to get.

muse7
larger round, higher round velocity, higher damage to tissue.

You get the point..

Except that's not true, except perhaps in terms of velocity, and its really not that 'high' in that regard, either. The .223/5.56 is one of the smallest, weakest centerfire rifle cartridges on the market. That's why most states don't allow its usage for hunting deer and other medium/large game. It lacks the ability to take larger game quickly and humanely. It was designed as a pest control round.

reply to post by neo96


It's just a fear tactic, a buzz word, to keep the unthinking masses unaware that civilian "Assault rifles" aren't as dangerous as the "gun grabbers" want them to be. Fact is the military versions are superior and if it came down to an "us vs. them" superior numbers with the best we can get our hands on, would be our only saving grace.