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Bobaganoosh
It is just a continuation. Just another angle of attack on humanity. The disgusting act of marginalizing those who exhibit any level of compassion for less fortunate souls.
Business deserves to be hurt. The blight and decay of our society is a glaring reminder that the talking heads and their delusional optimism is a blatant propagandized mistruth.
These same vile "silent majority" would be the first to call for the merciful killing of undesirables so as to sweep the lie away and never be faced with their own fraud.
destination now
reply to post by zeroBelief
I wish I could send my occasional lodger to your house...I'm sure you'd love her! I would be interested in your opinion after she's spent a couple of nights outside your door!
zeroBelief
destination now
reply to post by zeroBelief
I wish I could send my occasional lodger to your house...I'm sure you'd love her! I would be interested in your opinion after she's spent a couple of nights outside your door!
Life is difficult because of that homeless person. Because of the smell of humanity. Because of it's ugliness. Because of it's inconvenience.
I'm sorry.
Let me go get you another Iron Bru and open up another package of crisps to top off that take-away.
zeroBelief
destination now
reply to post by zeroBelief
I wish I could send my occasional lodger to your house...I'm sure you'd love her! I would be interested in your opinion after she's spent a couple of nights outside your door!
Life is difficult because of that homeless person. Because of the smell of humanity. Because of it's ugliness. Because of it's inconvenience.
I'm sorry.
Let me go get you another Iron Bru and open up another package of crisps to top off that take-away.
Another_Nut
reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan
Don't have time to read all the post tex but how did i do?
Am i apologizing or are you?
destination now
reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan
Totally agree, this woman cannot look after herself, she cannot maintain a tenancy or even live in a hostel. She really needs to be in hospital with constant supervision, but the UK's care in the community put paid to that
tinner07
Ok here is my perspective on that.
I live in Michigan, snowing to beat hell. I want to vacation in florida but can't afford the resorts. Can I set up tent in your front yard? No.
Business owners are the same. People have compassion but you get people sleeping in front of a business its going to hurt business.
chiefsmom
reply to post by tinner07
Ok, I get that, and agree to an extent. (Not the snow part, I'm with you there!)
But does this mean the homeless can't cover up, in a box in an alley, out of the way, bothering nobody?
Is the city going to approve opening more shelters, for the homeless to go? I doubt it.edit on 7-2-2014 by chiefsmom because: addition
Do you think people like to admit to their human flaws? No, they don't. So there would never be that point of "I changed...the money". People have egos, and those egos tend to rule them.
The study I provided, it isn't about me. I am the man I am. I am not wealthy, as I choose to avoid wealth. I am successful, and I know why: because I am smart, and have had wonderful opportunities in my life. Everyone is smart, so the differene is my opportunities. But like i said...it isn't about me, its about human nature. And that human nature is the same, whether it makes you uncomfortable or not. That is, unless you have a study (and not just an uncomfortable feeling) that can support your claim.
DazDaKing
What an utter load of NONSENSE. Yes, that theory holds for children because they are sponges. The idea is that by the time you're an adult you've had various life experiences and outlooks and can be 'trusted' with the control of your body and mind to a finer tuned degree. But applying this concept to adults is a different ball game - it is nonsensical completely. If someones going to suddenly be a prick when they're rich or advantaged...then THAT IS THEIR CHARACTER.
Bigfurrytexan
Except I provided a study, by real scientists, that proves you wrong.
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Yup. We live in a world of fools. And you and I are among their ranks.
It seems you are ironically missing the whole point about ego. To the point of hubris.
DazDaKing
So for your little study - I say all it does is highlight the inherent problem with the majority of the adult population on the Earth right now. A bunch of people who don't truly know who they are and simply exist in a Limbo state awaiting the moment they can pounce and get back at the world because they 'deserve' so. Like the kid who got bullied in school and now he can't think about anything else than getting his own back on the world. Low level states of the human consciousness - ultimately self-obsession and ultimate self-righteousness. This is the same mentality that allows humans to kill others for the sake of a ideology/religion/country and claim it was an act of right-doing.
Bigfatfurrytexan
Wait....a minute ago it was all nonsense. Now you are admitting that it highlights a darker part of human nature?
Are you talking about the topic, or me? I don't think you know me....
....it would be nice if we could dig that inner intellectual out of you so that you could discuss the topic instead of making up your own little story about who I am and what I would "probably" do.
You really are clueless about human nature, aren't you? Have you live on this planet more than 20 years? "Modern humans" is a statement that displays ego. Humans are no different today than 1000 years ago, other than our relative ability to live in modern times (technological knowledge, etc). We are the same damn dirty apes we always have been.
bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by DazDaKing
It would likely help you to understand that we both have very, very similar viewpoints. We are just seeing something different.
i am not religious or anything like that. But I have spent my entire life studying religion (it fascinates me for some reason), and have deist beliefs (there is "something", i just don't have a real concept of what that something is). I say that to say this: along the way I was highly impacted by Buddhism. The control of the ego....this is the heart of buddhism. Having spent years practicing on "mindful action", i do have a fairly good command over my ego (although i have identified a couple dozen traits over the last month or so that show I still have lots of work to do).
From this vantage point, I see many of the weaknesses of others, and their struggles. The vantage point I refer to is having the experience struggling with those things myself. Sociopathic traits, however, are something I haven't struggled with much as I am highly empathetic and can't tolerate negative emotions very well when I am the source of them.
That said....I witness the way people tend to treat each other. How the people who make less money tend to be more communal in their outlook. They depend on and rely on each other for things like a cup of sugar, a babysitter, a ride to work, etc. People with more wealth tend to not do this. They tend to take a more independant viewpoint, and demand that others be "strong" like them.
I then see people who "strike it rich". Lottery winners are a good example you may be familiar with. But locally, we have "new" millionaires because of the wind turbines (they pay $25k apiece plus 3% annual commission, and many farmers/ranchers have hundreds of them on their land now) and oil. Most ranchers nowadays have two corporate entities: 1 for the livestock operations, and one for the energy operations. The term "money changes people" is a common term for a reason, and I see this personally.
Now, not everyone is this way (which you point out). You may have a higher moral fiber. I don't know, but given how intelligent you seem to be I would suspect that you at least believe you do for good reason. Me? I would like to think I do. But without ever having a test, how would I know?
In any event, I stand by my assertion. We may have an impasse. Who knows. But given what I have seen with my own eyes, and my own lifes experience (and context), the study was spot on. Since I deal with some very wealthy people day to day, having that perspective answers many questions for me. Like why a billionaire would rather sue for insignificant issues instead of just paying their bills. Which takes us right back to ego.