How women's wisdom was lost

Ein Sof

Ein Sof, or Ayn Sof, (/eɪn sɒf/, Hebrew אין סוף), in Kabbalah, is understood as God prior to His self-manifestation in the production of any spiritual Realm, probably derived from Ibn Gabirol's term, "the Endless One" (she-en lo tiklah). Ein Sof may be translated as "no end", "unending", "there is no end", or infinite.

Ein Sof is the divine origin of all created existence, in contrast to the Ein (or Ayn), which is infinite no-thingness. It was first used by Azriel ben Menahem, who, sharing the Neoplatonic view that God can have no desire, thought, word, or action, emphasized by it the negation of any attribute. Of the Ein Sof, nothing ("Ein") can be grasped ("Sof"-limitation). It is the origin of the Ohr Ein Sof, the "Infinite Light" of paradoxical divine self-knowledge, nullified within the Ein Sof prior to Creation. In Lurianic Kabbalah, the first act of Creation, the Tzimtzum self "withdrawal" of God to create an "empty space", takes place from there. In Hasidism, the Tzimtzum is only illusionary concealment of the Ohr Ein Sof, giving rise to Monistic Panentheism. Consequently, Hasidism focuses on the Atzmus Divine essence, rooted higher within the Godhead than the Ein Sof, which is limited to infinitude, and reflected in the essence (Etzem) of the Torah and the soul.

Check the rest of the wiki if you are interested.

Ohr

Ohr ("Light" Hebrew: אור‎; plural: Ohros/Ohrot "Lights" Hebrew: אורות‎) is a central Kabbalistic term in the Jewish mystical tradition. The analogy of physical light is used as a way of describing metaphysical Divine emanations. Shefa ("Flow" Hebrew: שפע‎ and its derivative, Hashpoah "Influence" Hebrew: השפעה‎) is sometimes alternatively used in Kabbalah, a term also used in Medieval Jewish Philosophy to mean Divine influence, while the Kabbalists favour Ohr because its numerical value equals Raz ("mystery").[1]

Ra's Light. Flaming Ore from the Mind. It "Flows". Rises from the Kore...

The term Ohr in Kabbalah is contrasted with Ma'ohr, the "luminary", and Kli, the spiritual "vessel" for the light.

Luminary (disambig)
Make sure to check out the Kobe festival and other related.

So in a sense, we have Identified this "UFO" as a bizarre form of Sky Lantern that appears to be a Racehorse named Sky Lantern. It links us to Elusive Kate and also the Sun Chariot Stakes.

luciddream


My theory was the in ancient time, the society was more social.

Men had their jobs they were good at, Women had their jobs they were good at.

Then came the materialistic greed age and new societal structure that encouraged this neediness and a price for it(where before it was equal duty, you give me this and ill give u this).


Men started controlling everything out of this because of their physical dominance. Remember Brute force was regarded as something great in those times. So Women at that time, needed something stronger to protect them from other Brute force, eventually as time passed they became pretty much a property to be protected.

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i think it might be sort of like that. i think that when sedimentary farming and life developed he diversified careers, specializing trades and creating the need for tools that up til then were not needed as mostly hunter-gatherer.

this of course led to the need to place value on children, thus forcing women into a lesser role as caregiver over provider. since women could only give birth the need to control them to know that the mans child was his took presidence over her independence, after all a father wanted to leave his children his wealth not someone elses.

the lack of need for women to gather food also became eclipsed.

by the way it has always been that way really, women are vulnerable for nine months, they do need protecting and death by tiger was pretty common.

reply to post by demongoat

death by tiger was pretty common.

I want Death By Tiger to be my next band's name now.

amazing
It's really a shame that so much has been lost throughout history. There were times when Women were Gods and were worshipped and had real power.

uh they were gods up until christianity took over, take a look at the celtic gods, the norse gods, the roman gods, the greek gods.
man feared female gods worse than male gods, they just had different areas they addressed.
in norse myth, freyga took half the slain in battle, and it was said odin learned magic from her, the valkyries were at one time death goddesses. then again tyr was once the high god over odin, but like all things changed.
the morrigan was a feared goddess of war, blood thirsty and monstrous, funny that now we think of the gods as fairies..

There is compelling evidence of all woman armies as powerful the men's armies of the time. Interesting stuff. Men took over at some point, or most likely in most cases, due to being physically stronger and bigger from the times when the biggest person was usually the victor and the leader. Now a days with our weapons and technology, women are equal to men and should be. Times are changing. It's only the old, outdated Abrahamic religions that are keeping women down. It's time for that to change.

uh men never "took over" that is a myth.
men and women certainly shared power at different power levels in time in various ways, but both men and women had obligations they both were expected to keep according to god and man.
this is the problem i find, people judge cultures hundreds if not thousands of years into the past but can't be bothered to understand that people back then had different views of the world. for their time some of the stuff in the bible can be considered progressive, along with the koran.

also i'd like to point out that the fringe, though as loud as they are, are still the fringe and most members of the abrahamic religions don't use their religion to oppress anyone. those that do would oppress anyone that simply disagree with them, it's hardly a reason to abolish the religion over.

I disagree. Let's take Christianity...where women are to be subservient to their men. new testament stuff, ala Paul. Then let's take the Jewish religion....the orthodox Jews are the same way. There aren't many if any women rabbi's are there? Islam. totally hidden except for the eyes...walking a few paces behind the men. No political power? I would say that all three Abrahamic religions suppress women. I would also say that at some point, men took over. Maybe a few thousand years ago. Now I think the tables are turning slowly. Equality is once again coming around.

chiefsmom
I love findings like this.

In my own studies, so many cultures deferred to and revered women. Then it seems that all of a sudden, men had something to fear from that, and basically took over and made us the bad guys.
Yet somehow, women still secretly passed on their knowledge.

It really makes you wonder what things would be like, if it hadn't happened.

Imagine how organised everything would be...

Scary scary stuff..

amazing
I disagree. Let's take Christianity...where women are to be subservient to their men. new testament stuff, ala Paul. Then let's take the Jewish religion....the orthodox Jews are the same way. There aren't many if any women rabbi's are there? Islam. totally hidden except for the eyes...walking a few paces behind the men. No political power? I would say that all three Abrahamic religions suppress women. I would also say that at some point, men took over. Maybe a few thousand years ago. Now I think the tables are turning slowly. Equality is once again coming around.

if this is a response to me, i'm talking about now, not 2000 years ago.
if all you can do is fish out a few out of context verses then you are missing the majority of the NT, because jesus was very egalitarian, there are tons of verses that are proof.
if you are going to argue about whom can be a rabbi why can't anyone else be a rabbi why just people descended from aaron? why for thousands of years did having a jewish mother mean you were jewish?
also women had power at various points in jewish history, read judges.

your whole post is ethnocentric and modernly biased, plus it ignores that the majority of those who support womens rights are the very people you are attacking.

men have always had more leadership roles than women, being protectors and hunters, it's just how it is being a dimorphic species. a few thousand? i'd say more like fifty thousand, maybe more. men didn''t "take over" anything, that has been the social dynamic for homid for thousands of years.
why the heck are you using the phrase "the tables are turning" that really isn't what it means.

i am for equality, but you are just repeating untruths.

reply to post by demongoat


Not true. What I mean by that is that all three Abrahamic religions suppress women. The new testament does it a little more subtly but Paul said for just one example: 1 Timothy 2:12, in which the saint says: "I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, she must be silent." The old testament is full of much worse crap. And it is crap, when you let passages like these remain in your holy book. If you were truly for equality you would remove these from the bible altogether.

And we're not just saying this for the past. The present is full of men, keeping women from truly being equal. By continuing to be ignorant of these facts and the bible and the actual impact of the Abrahamic religions you are being part of the problem. Deny ignorance my friend, deny ignorance. unless you want women to be second to man?

Forgive me for not getting the gist of things here, but could someone point out what specific female wisdom has been lost? I can't be the only person who's read this thread and concluded that it's, at best, a vague girl-worship fest with not a lot of clear direction in that regard. Bullet points of the knowledge/wisdom supposedly lost would have been massively helpful (still would be) Otherwise, you're missing reaching a lot of people who skim through this thread confused before hitting the red X.

I do have a general comment on this domination-swapping notion, though. If we were to never change for better or worse, ever, we would be at a standstill and have nothing to learn & no desire to change anything. There is no going forward without making an enlightening discovery, let alone without going backward a little and knowing -- and understanding -- the depths of our own darkness. I have no problems with the way humanity has progressed thus far, keeping the need for learning in mind. We will end up a finely tuned, well oiled machine of a race some day, but right now, we're still figuring out where all the parts go. We're not quite there yet.

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If anything was lost it would be partially unknown until after it was found and analyzed.
We wouldn't even know it was missing most likely(in context of ancient history).

Most of what is going on currently today worldwide is censorship, repression, exploitation, etc, of women's rights as human beings.

I don't think it's fair to presume that because specialists know stuff that "we" know it.
Because "we" don't know much anything, if you want to average it.
Instead it's probably best to learn everything we can as individuals
and try to figure things out that aren't usually so apparent.

Also I am sorry that I kinda indulged in the thread topic a bit.
It caused me to open a really interesting portal that I have been exploring off and on the past few days.
I really am itching to follow it up though, there are like 10 nice sections of info I could elaborate on.
And it all connects to what I was already on about with some really nice surprises.

I feel like I may have offended the OP though, hopefully not.
I honestly was following a specific path that led from the Hagia Sophia, strangely enough.
So I wasn't intending "Goddess Worship" or anything, that's just how this (really awesome) tune sounds.
The intention was to share what I am hearing. The song of the Grays sounds very feminine some days.

These Crones Scold me with a Cold Hold, now I See these Friends of Old.
I Hear the Moan through the Ohm
and it's Om Chilling my Bone.

The syllable is also referred to as omkara (ओंकार oṃkāra) or aumkara (औंकार auṃkāra), literally "om syllable", and in Sanskrit it is sometimes referred to as praṇava, literally "that which is sounded out loudly".
Om is also written ओ३म् (ō̄m [õːːm]), where ३ is pluta ("three times as long"), indicating a length of three morae

I See Morai (Heiau) and Hear 'Aloha' from Hana Hawaii.

Three "Morae"? How about Three Moirai, the Fates?

Let's go to Santa Monica Ca to find out about Saint Monica, check the City Seal for the Deal on Monica Geller.

Saint Monica[1] (AD 331[2] – 387), also known as Monica of Hippo, (Be. Timaniket) was an early Christian saint and the mother of St. Augustine of Hippo. She is honoured in the Roman Catholic Church where she is remembered and venerated for her outstanding Christian virtues, particularly the suffering against the adultery of her husband, and a prayerful life dedicated to the reformation of her son, who wrote extensively of her pious acts and life with her in his Confessions. Popular Christian legends recall Saint Monica to have wept every night for her son Augustine.

Here death overtook Monica and the finest pages of Augustine's Confessions were penned as the result of the emotion he then experienced.

And of course Serra Springs Forth.

The springs are also sometimes referred to as the Gabrieleno Tongva Springs, the Tongva Holy Springs, and the Sacred Springs.
The name Kuruvungna, which means "a place where we are in the sun,"[6] comes from the name of a village that was located at the site of the springs.
Later, around the turn of the 19th century, the two springs began to be called "The Tears of Santa Monica" because they brought to mind the weeping eyes of the saint as she cried for her erring son.

What's that Monica's Gang coming out of this Cosmic Harmonica ?

In 2007, Monica became a Goodwill Ambassador for UNICEF.[3]

She is known by the other characters as the "owner of the street". She is always carrying her blue stuffed rabbit called Samson (Sansão), which she uses as a weapon, though she's also able to fight with her barehands. She is often at odds with Jimmy Five, but backs him up whenever he gets into trouble. Monica's best friend is Maggy.

Monica (automobile)
Monica (rocket)
Monica tail warning radar
Monica (grape)

I see through these Monikers of Monica's Money to find the Honey, this Lucky Lady of Lux has Mighty Good Looks in Æon Flux.
Call it being Charred by the Charities through Charlize.

The title is based on the Gnostic notion of an Æon[4] – emanations of God – specifically the Valentinian notion of a syzygy,[5] a sexually complementary pair of emanations, here the two main characters. The Gnostic influence is also present in the use of a demiurge in one episode.[4]
Æon Flux was set in a bizarre, dystopian future world. The title character is a tall, leather-clad secret agent from the nation of Monica, skilled in assassination and acrobatics.

Aeon (Gnosticism)

In many Gnostic systems, the various emanations of God, who is also known by such names as the One, the Monad, Aion teleos (αἰών τέλεος "The Broadest Aeon"), Bythos ("depth or profundity", Greek βυθός), Proarkhe ("before the beginning", Greek προαρχή), the Arkhe ("the beginning", Greek ἀρχή), are called Aeons.

This source of all being is an Aeon in which an inner being dwells, known as Ennoea ("thought, intent", Greek ἔννοια), Charis ("grace", Greek χάρις), or Sige ("silence", Greek σιγή). The split perfect being conceives the second Aeon, Nous ("mind", Greek Νους), within itself. Along with the male Nous comes the female Aeon Aletheia ("truth", Greek Αληθεια). These are the primary roots of the Aeons.

Flux (disambig)
Flow (Flux Psychology)

Flow is the mental state of operation in which a person performing an activity is fully immersed in a feeling of energized focus, full involvement, and enjoyment in the process of the activity. In essence, flow is characterized by complete absorption in what one does.

Monica Geller?
Geller Yell Yellow Yeller?
Must be another Illusion from Uri Geller because I am Seeing Sarah Michelle Gellar in Scooby Doo 2 playing Daphne, which is funny because She is Buffy Anne Summers.
Sorta like...Phoebe Buffay-Hannigan ?

Snow White of the Fabled Feeble Vanilla Light ?
This Anthracite Road is Paved in Socialite Code from the Wizard of Phoebe Snow

Phoebe Snow advertisement featuring a poem promoting the Lackawanna trains that used clean-burning coal

During World War I, anthracite was needed for the war effort and its use on railroads was prohibited, thus ending the career of Phoebe Snow. As she passed into legend, the Calkins heroine said farewell with the following jingle:
Miss Phoebe's trip
without a slip
is almost o'er
Her trunk and grip
are right and tight
without a slight
"Good bye, old Road of Anthracite!"

This Heroine of Light will keep us at Hotel California through the Endless Night.
If you'd rather a Hero, than Phoebus should do Alright.

The ideal of the kouros (a beardless, athletic youth), Apollo has been variously recognized as a god of light and the sun, truth and prophecy, healing, plague, music, poetry, and more.
As the patron of Delphi (Pythian Apollo), Apollo was an oracular god—the prophetic deity of the Delphic Oracle.

Most hear only Phobos Oboe though.

Phobos (Ancient Greek: Φόβος, pronounced [pʰóbos], meaning "fear") is the personification of fear in Greek mythology.
Phobos often is depicted as having a lion’s or lion-like head.

Phoebe Snow (train)
Erie Lackawanna Railway (EL)
And you Better Know Phoebe Snow's "Poetry Man".

These Sayornis birds Say the Orneriest things about Exploitation Rackets.
"Take your Porn Addictions and Pack It, Say's Phoebe with an Ornament Racket. Drop by Orne and learn Ornithology through the ORN. And like in Orn we are investigating with our ORN (Olfactory).

In music, ornaments or embellishments are musical flourishes that are not necessary to carry the overall line of the melody (or harmony), but serve instead to decorate or "ornament" that line. Many ornaments are performed as "fast notes" around a central note.

Humans have about 40 million olfactory receptor neurons that detect up to 10,000 different odors.

Now you know I'm way out there somewhere around Phoebe (moon)
Phoebe (name)

Phoebe or Phebe is a female given name (Ancient Greek: Φοίβη), feminine form of the male name Phoebus, meaning "bright and shining" deriving from Greek 'Phoebus' (Φοίβος).

Here is Phoebe (plant)

Phoebe is a genus of evergreen trees and shrubs belonging to the Laurel family, Lauraceae.

Laurel Family , where Daphne, Phoebe and Laura collide:

Scientific names similar to Daphne (e.g., Daphnidium, Daphniphyllum)[12] or "laurel" (e.g.,Laureliopsis, Skimmia laureola) indicate other plant families that resemble Lauraceae.

I discovered it through Phoebe (Titan)

In Greek mythology "radiant, bright, prophetic" Phoebe (/ˈfiːbiː/; Greek: Φοίβη Phoibe), was one of the original Titans, who were one set of sons and daughters of Uranus and Gaia.[1] She was traditionally associated with the moon (see Selene), as in Michael Drayton's Endimion and Phœbe, (1595), the first extended treatment of the Endymion myth in English

Quite a List:

Phoebe, one of the Heliades
Phoebe (Leucippides), the daughter of Leucippus
Phoebe, an epithet of Artemis, feminine equivalent of Phoebus as an epithet for Apollo
Phoebe, an epithet of Selene
Phoebe, Helen's sister, daughter of Leda
Phoebe, a Hamadryad, one of Danaus' many wives or concubines, mother of several of the Danaides
Phoebe, one of the Amazons who fought against Heracles
Phoebe, Grandmother of Apollo

HMS Phoebe List
Phoebe Literary Journal

Told you I was bringing Reinforcements from Oz so pick up this mystery novel by L. Frank Baum called
Phoebe Daring it's code for Herring.

Phoebe Daring: A Story for Young Folk is a mystery novel for juvenile readers, written by L. Frank Baum, the author of the Oz books. Published in 1912, it was a sequel to the previous year's The Daring Twins, and the second and final installment in a proposed series of similar books.[1] Phoebe Daring was illustrated by Joseph Pierre Nuyttens, the artist who illustrated Baum's The Flying Girl, Annabel, and The Flying Girl and Her Chum in the same period. Hungry Tiger Press announced that they would reprint the book as Unjustly Accused! in the back of their 2006 reprint of the first book as The Secret of the Lost Fortune.

The Flying Girl

As with Baum's other books for girls, these two novels were published under the pseudonym "Edith Van Dyne."

"The Flying Girl" is Wasp our Avenger aka "Janet Van Dyne" btw.
Aunt Jane's Nieces

Aunt Jane's Nieces is the title of a juvenile novel published by Reilly & Britton in 1906, and written by L. Frank Baum under the pen name "Edith Van Dyne."[1]

Super important in context of thread topic:

Baum lived during an era of increasing feminist and suffragette agitation; women gained the right to vote with the ratification of the 19th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution in 1920, the year after his death. Baum's mother-in-law Matilda Joslyn Gage was a leading feminist of her generation, and influenced Baum's views.[1]

It is certainly true that Baum pokes gentle fun at the feminist and suffragette movement in his books — the most obvious example being General Jinjur and her Army of Revolt in The Marvelous Land of Oz. Yet Baum also had a strong sympathy with the broad goals of the movement, a sympathy that is reflected in his literary canon. Oz, of course, is a female-dominated society, with Princess Ozma, Glinda, and witches good and bad. Baum wrote a number of books specifically for girls; his ten-novel series Aunt Jane's Nieces portrays young women acting with independence, initiative, and individuality in preference to traditional gender roles.[2] In one case, Baum went too far for his publishers: though he was their star writer, Reilly & Britton rejected the first version of his 1916 book Mary Louise, "presumably because the heroine was not sufficiently idealized."[3] Though unhappy with their decision, Baum re-wrote the book to deliver a more tame and stereotypical heroine.

Annabel (novel)
The Bluebird Books

He wrote thirteen novel sequels, nine other fantasy novels, and a host of other works (55 novels in total, plus four "lost" novels, 83 short stories, over 200 poems, an unknown number of scripts,[1] and many miscellaneous writings), and made numerous attempts to bring his works to the stage and screen. His works anticipated such century-later commonplaces as television, augmented reality, laptop computers (The Master Key), wireless telephones (Tik-Tok of Oz), women in high risk, action-heavy occupations (Mary Louise in the Country), and the ubiquity of advertising on clothing (Aunt Jane's Nieces at Work).

One last tidbit about "Ina":
Hina (Polynesian)

Hina (literally “girl”) is the name of several different goddesses and women in Polynesian mythology.
In Samoa, the equivalent the name Sina referred to in many different stories in mythology.

For the anime series, see Love Hina. For the anime character, see Hina (One Piece)
David Lee Roth recorded a song called "Hina", contained on the hard rock album Skyscraper, released in 1988.
Richard Adams has written a poem retelling the Tahitian story of Hina and Maui, published as a book, The Legend of Te Maui.
Also, in his popular book The Seven Daughters of Eve, Bryan Sykes used Hina's name, (spelled therein "Ina") to denote the clan matriarch of mtDNA haplogroup B.

reply to post by Stormdancer777


What exactly IS "women's wisdom"?

Wisdom is wisdom - insight into the inner workings of the "world" and the mind - so, by definition, it cannot be male or female.
("Male"/"female" thinking is a construct of socialization, only successful in those who are susceptible to it, because they are not particularly independent thinkers.)

I am not being confrontational; I am just too familiar with the (shallow) way the media's collective mind works - and plays on stereotypes - while avoiding any real, unbiased study of history, of times past, as living entities.

Rachel Karen Green comes tearin on the scene with the Knife of Sophia which is the Lily Green Lantern of Herring.

Kniphofia uvaria is also known as Tritoma, Torch Lily, or Red Hot Poker due to the shape and color of its inflorescence. The leaves are reminiscent of a lily, and the flowerhead can reach up to 1.52 m (5.0 ft) in height. There are many varieties of torch lily, and they bloom at different times during the growing season. The flowers are red, orange, and yellow.

Cremation of Karen? Try Cremation of Koren if you know what Gin I'm pourin,
Art of Stew, Brew from the Heart, of this other John Stewart.

Koren is a variant of the Greek female given name Kora meaning "maiden". The name is also a masculine given name of Hebrew origin meaning "gleaming".

I found out about it at the Little A'Le'Inn in Rachel, Nevada where I met up with Janet to take a ride to Area 51.

Don't forget to pick up a copy of the Area 51 novels to see what's going on.

The Little A'Le'Inn (Previously Rachel Bar and Grill)[1] is a small bar, restaurant and motel located in Rachel, Nevada on the Extraterrestrial Highway.

The Area 51 novels are a series of science fiction novels by American author Robert Mayer, under the pseudonym Robert Doherty.

Bob Mayer

Robert "Bob" Mayer (born 1959) is an author, writing instructor, and former Green Beret.[1] He has written over 50 titles.
He has written several motivational books, including Who Dares Wins: Special Operations Tactics For Success and Who Dares Wins: The Green Beret Way to Conquer Fear & Succeed.
In addition, he wrote books in partnership with author Jennifer Crusie.[1]

Jennifer Crusie (Smith)

Jennifer Crusie (born 1949) is a pseudonym for Jennifer Smith, a bestselling and award winning author of contemporary romance novels. She has written more than 15 novels, which have been published in 20 countries.

Note Mr Mayer is a Green Beret, and wrote with Jennifer of the 'Rosie Crusie'?
Also strange that Jennifer Aniston dated "John Mayer" as well, coincidentally enough.

Rachel (film) (2009), a documentary about the death of Rachel Corrie
Rachel, Rachel (1968), a film starring Joanne Woodward and directed by Paul Newman
Rachel (Animorphs), a character from the Animorphs book series by K. A. Applegate
"Rachel" (story), a short story by Erskine Caldwell, included in We Are the Living (1933)
Rachel (sandwich), a type of sandwich
Rachel Alexandra (foaled 2006), an American Thoroughbred racehorse
The Rachel haircut, a haircut based on the Friends character Rachel Green

My Cousin Rachel (novel) by Daphne du Maurier

On 17 April 2012, a dramatic adaptation by Joseph O’Connor, of Daphne du Maurier’s My Cousin Rachel, premièred at the Gate Theatre, Dublin, starring Hannah Yelland as Rachel.

Ambrose Ashley, Maybe it's a May Bee ?
Saint Ambrose who influenced Augustine, remember?

Ambrose ranks with Augustine, Jerome, and Gregory the Great, as one of the Latin Doctors of the Church.
His spiritual successor, Augustine, whose conversion was helped by Ambrose's sermons, owes more to him than to any writer except Paul

Ambrose's siblings, Satyrus (who is the subject of Ambrose's De excessu fratris Satyri) and Marcellina, are also venerated as saints.[5] There is a legend that as an infant, a swarm of bees settled on his face while he lay in his cradle, leaving behind a drop of honey. His father considered this a sign of his future eloquence and honeyed tongue. For this reason, bees and beehives often appear in the saint's symbology.

Almost as if it's Ambrosia in which I bathe, because I am seeing the Genie of the Jade Jen Within

Jade (real name Jennifer-Lynn Hayden) is a fictional character, a superheroine in the DC Comics Universe who first appeared in All-Star Squadron #25 (Sept. 1983).[1] Known affectionately as "Jennie" or "Jen", she is the daughter of Alan Scott, the Golden Age Green Lantern. Her mother is Rose Canton, the Golden Age villain known as Thorn. Jennie-Lynn has a twin brother, Todd James Rice, who is the superhero Obsidian.[2] Along with Obsidian, Jade was a founding member of Infinity, Inc.

Become a Detective of Comics (DC) and note her new "Rachel haircut"

Now let's go back into time to find Rachel of the Bible

Rachel (Hebrew: רָחֵל, Modern Rakhél Tiberian Rāḥēl ISO 259-3 Raḥel ; meaning "ewe"[2]) as described in the Bible, is the favorite wife of Jacob, one of the three Biblical Patriarchs, and mother of Joseph and Benjamin. She was the daughter of Laban and the younger sister of Leah, Jacob's first wife. Jacob was her first cousin, and she was the youngest niece of Rebekah.
Rachel's son, Joseph, is destined to be the leader of Israel's tribes between exile and nationhood.

Ewe (sheep)

Being a key animal in the history of farming, sheep have a deeply entrenched place in human culture, and find representation in much modern language and symbology. As livestock, sheep are most often associated with pastoral, Arcadian imagery. Sheep figure in many mythologies—such as the Golden Fleece—and major religions, especially the Abrahamic traditions. In both ancient and modern religious ritual, sheep are used as sacrificial animals.

Been Jammin with Big Benjamin to learn about Leah, Jacob, and Joseph.

The Book of Genesis tells that Joseph was the 11th of Jacob's 12 sons and Rachel's firstborn,[2] and tells how Joseph came to be sold into slavery by his jealous brothers, and rose to become the second most powerful man in Egypt next to Pharaoh.

Leah (Hebrew: לֵאָה, Modern Le'a Tiberian Lēʼā ISO 259-3 Leˀa; Syriac: ܠܝܐ La'ya; from Akkadian cow), as described in the Hebrew Bible, is the first of the two concurrent wives of the Hebrew patriarch Jacob and mother of six sons whose descendants became the Twelve Tribes of Israel, along with one daughter, Dinah.

Jacob (/ˈdʒeɪkəb/; Hebrew: יַעֲקֹב Standard Yaʿakov Septuagint Greek: Ἰακώβ Iakōb; Syriac: ܝܥܩܘܒ Yah'qu; Arabic: يَعْقُوب‎ Yaʿqūb; "heel" or "leg-puller"), also later known as Israel (Hebrew: יִשְׂרָאֵל, Standard Yisraʾel, Tiberian Yiśrāʾēl, "persevere with God";[1]

In the Hebrew Bible, he is the son of Isaac and Rebekah, the grandson of Abraham, Sarah and of Bethuel, and the younger twin brother of Esau.

Before the birth of Benjamin, Jacob is renamed "Israel" by God (Genesis 32:28-29 and 35:10). Etymologically, the name "Israel" comes from the Hebrew words לִשְׂרות (lisrot, "wrestle") and אֵל (El, "God").[5] Popular English translations typically reference the face off with God, ranging from active "wrestles with God" to passive "God contends,"[6][7] but various other meanings have also been suggested. Some commentators say the name comes from the verb śœarar ("to rule, be strong, have authority over"), thereby making the name mean "God rules" or "God judges";[8] or "the prince of God" (from the King James Version) or "El (God) fights/struggles".[9]

I Ping on this Jewelry of Hanna Ding
You hearing the Herring Sing about Her Ring ?

Guess who told me about Jennifer Joanna Aniston and Anna of the Arc?
Mr Mean Green Himself : Leprechaun (1993 film)

Aniston made her screen debut in the television series Molloy (1990), but her film career began in the horror film Leprechaun (1993). She gained worldwide recognition in the 1990s for portraying Rachel Green on the television sitcom Friends (1994–2004),

So now who gets why she played "Grace" in Bruce Almighty ?

Few last bits: Her dad was a huge Soap actor - John Aniston
Anniston Alabama

Named The Model City by Atlanta newspaperman Henry W. Grady for its careful planning in the late 19th century, the city is situated on the slope of Blue Mountain.

Anniston, Missouri

Anniston Munitions Center

The ADMC is the site of the Department of Army’s only Missile Recycling Center and is one of the Army’s premium ammunition storage sites because it is capable of storing some of the Army’s largest munitions.

Anniston Army Depot

The stockpile included rockets, bombs, projectiles, and land mines armed with Sarin, VX nerve agent, or mustard gas. The last chemical munitions were destroyed in September 2011.[2]

I just woke up from a dream where I had four stars on that last post.
Yeah that's a really uneventful dream, and it also got my hopes up.

So I rushed to get up and come see what was going on.
Only to find it was all a fantasy, a dream!

Haha, anyways, I'll add more later.

Before I cut this short think about:
"Phrases with Frasier"

Niles must be in Denial,
"Martin" the dad is like the cosmic parent (Mary-Mars)
Roz Doyle = "Ross" = Horse = Her full name is "Rosalinda"

Lisa Kudrow was originally given the role but was fired before the pilot, in which she was replaced by Gilpin.[3]

So she was going to be played by Lisa who played Phoebe on Friends...

Daphne Moon

Daphne is mostly portrayed as kind and down-to-Earth, often perplexed and exasperated by Frasier's snobbery and pretension. Although they fight and bicker over Martin's therapy sessions, she gets along with Martin much better as they are capable of sharing activities as she is his care-giver and constant companion.

Eddie = the Dog
Lilith Sternin

Lilith (myth)

Lilith (Hebrew: לילית‎; lilit, or lilith) is a Hebrew name for a figure in Jewish mythology, developed earliest in the Babylonian Talmud, who is generally thought to be in part derived from a class of female demons Līlīṯu in Mesopotamian texts of Assyria and Babylonia.

The Hebrew term Lilith or "Lilit" (translated as "Night creatures", "night monster", "night hag", or "screech owl") first occurs in Isaiah 34:14, either singular or plural according to variations in the earliest manuscripts, though in a list of animals.

In Jewish folklore, from the 8th–10th century Alphabet of Ben Sira onwards, Lilith becomes Adam's first wife, who was created at the same time (Rosh Hashanah) and from the same earth as Adam. This contrasts with Eve, who was created from one of Adam's ribs. The legend was greatly developed during the Middle Ages, in the tradition of Aggadic midrashim, the Zohar, and Jewish mysticism.[3]

Lilith (Lurianic Kabbalah)

In the teachings of Rabbi Isaac Luria, it is said that there are many Liliths. Manasseh Matlub Sithon said "many Liliths and demons are abroad, and go up and down."[1]
The greatest of these is the wife of Adam Qadmon, a being that God used as an avatar to create the Universe in all its ten or more dimensions, hence a multiverse.

Liln

In Mesopotamian demonology, Lilin were hostile night spirits that attack men.

Lilu

A lilu or lilû is a masculine Akkadian word for a spirit, related to Alû, demon.

Alu

In Akkadian and Sumerian mythology, Alû is a vengeful spirit

Compare with Ala (demons)

An ala or hala (plural: ale or hali)[1] is a female mythological creature recorded in the folklore of Bulgarians, Macedonians, and Serbs.

Loa

The Loa (also Lwa or L'wha) are the spirits of Haitian Vodou. They are also referred to as Mystères and the Invisibles,

Daemon (Greek)

Daemons are benevolent or benign nature spirits, beings of the same nature as both mortals and gods, similar to ghosts, chthonic heroes, spirit guides, forces of nature or the gods themselves

Norea (Gnosticism)

Norea is a figure in Gnostic cosmology. Sometimes she is said to be the syzygy of Adam, or wife of Noah, and daughter of Eve. Norea is perceived within gnostic thought as Sophia after her fall from grace.

Serpent Seed
Spirit Spouse

The spirit spouse of dreams is one of the most widespread elements of shamanism, distributed through all continents and at all cultural levels. "The spirit spouse visits in dreams. Female shamans give birth to spirit children".[1]

Alp (folklore)
Fiery Serpents
Gancanagh
Night Terrors
Succubus and Incubus

Sexuality in Christian demonology

And finally : Lilith Fair

In 1996, Canadian Sarah McLachlan became frustrated with concert promoters and radio stations that refused to feature two female musicians in a row.[1] Bucking conventional industry wisdom, she booked a successful tour for herself and Paula Cole.
In 1997, Lilith Fair garnered a $16 million gross, making it the top-grossing of any touring festival.[1]
The festival received several pejorative nicknames, including "Breast-fest" and "Girlapalooza".

I've posted along this lines many times. One of the most interesting and informative books that helps decode history, religious artwork and unravel the truth is Michael Tsarion's book, Trees of Life. Also on kindle.

Simplifying what can never be simple, whereas in the long past there were very harsh wars and human misery as well. So this is simplifying something. But the ancient wisdom was passed on, unfortunately through the Druids and those from a past cycle, to the kings of the middle eastern and eastern world. And they wanted to keep the knowledge to themselves and put it into controlling religions. Sophia WAS THE TREE OF LIFE. And the symbolism was Mother, the matrix/universe, is a womb. We grow up when we become Loving, Kind and Concerned with both Equality and Freedom of all, and not harm others but help. So a Mother's Love, wedded to the best of Father's energy, which is not warring, dominating, controlling, enslaving, warring and harsh. But instead is: kind, gentle, resourceful, a teacher, creator, protector. Father is like Michael or Christ. Mother is wonderful.

Of course this very simple concept of the Love it takes to go home was attacked by the dark renegades who reset the earth, toppled continents, put women in burqa's and veils, to hide the truth and love, and made the men don the robes as adrogenous priests to proclaim they were the tree of life, the source of life, and then they beat the war drums and corrupted everyone to prevent people awakening and ascending. However the gnostics put into the scriptures that corrupted and plagarized the ancient wisdoms the inner meanings, the metaphors that still say the way back home, the awakening and becoming a buddha, under the wings of Mother's wonderful equalizing, compassionate, Love. While Father is the guardian angel and strong support that protects. All in agreement and harmony.

pleasethink
I would like to ask, what papyrus of the Jewish or Christian texts includes references to Sophia? I believe the Bible would be what is referenced, and to my knowledge the name Sophia is never mentioned. I would like to see which texts you refer to.

I can't answer for whomever you're asking, but I'm reminded of Pistis Sophia. Just sharing.

I am too happy with what randomly came out in this thread.
I can't let it die so easily.

Here folks, I can just type in a name at random in Google that I "hear" in my "inner ear"...and check these results:
I admit I spelled the name wrong initially (but that's ok it was easy to figure out it was the last letters of Christ'ie').

Anna Christie (1930)

Her famous first line is: "Gimme a whisky, ginger ale on the side, and don't be stingy, baby!"

Anna arrives an emotionally wounded woman with a dishonorable, hidden past: she has worked in a brothel for two years.

Anna Christie was the highest grossing film of 1930 and received the following Academy Award nominations:[4]
Best Actress – Greta Garbo
Best Director – Clarence Brown
Best Cinematography – William Daniels

Anna Christie (1921) play

Anna Christie is the story of a former prostitute who falls in love, but runs into difficulty in turning her life around.

1922 Pulitzer Prize for Drama
1993 Drama Desk Award for Best Revival of a Play
1993 Tony Award for Best Revival of a Play
2011 Olivier Award for Best Revival of a Play

So this was a big deal, and apparently it's revival is a big deal too!
This must make Anna Christie the Phoenix reborn?

Anna Christie (1923)

The New Girl in Town

New Girl in Town is a musical with a book by George Abbott and music and lyrics by Bob Merrill based on Eugene O'Neill's 1921 gloomy play Anna Christie, about a prostitute who tries to live down her past. New Girl, unlike O'Neill's play, focuses on the jealousy of the character Marthy and on love’s ability to conquer all. The musical ends far more hopefully than the earlier play.[1]

I'll cut this short here...but I gotta reiterate how blown away I am when I randomly found this stuff!

The best part is that when I did this, I did it all night long (a few days ago) so I have a grip of stuff to dump.
Maybe tomorrow night I'll try to make a few large content posts if I have time.
Is it too early to call it "magic" yet?

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Well thank you. Not really Jewish or Christian, though. It is gnostic. Big big difference. But at least someone tried. If one was to study gnosticism they actually tend to believe the God of the Bible(creation) was an evil demigod out to torture mankind. Really can't get much further from Jewish or Christian. Just because one incorporates Jesus, does not mean it is accepted as Christian. But, as I said thank you. I could explain further, but it is truly for another thread.

Jewish and Christian beliefs never incorporated "Sophia" and never would as it would have been punishable by death. A lot of people tend to utilize Proverbs to support this fallacy, as it constantly references wisdom to be like a first bride, in the feminine sense. The reason for that is it is to be loved in a similar fashion, and was written by a man. I do accept that in many other cultures that this was an important concept. Just not ever in Christian or Jewish tradition. The Mystery religions might utilize Christian figures, but it was intended to incorporate people from other religions. It is still going on today. Take a look at Theosophy and how it has grown to such an influence. There is a reason for that. People here Jesus and they think "Hey, thats okay" but any glance at a Bible will tell you that the two could not be further from one another.

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Margaret Barker is a christian scholar with serious credentials. Not some fringe person, but highly respected by scholars across many denominations. She speaks of 1st temple judaism being very different from 2nd temple judaism. And specifically that the Josiahn purge was a destruction of this worship. Part of that included the Mother God Sophia, or El Shaddai the many breasted one.