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habfan1968
Someone posted links to NESARA info as it could be related.
In the NESARA links the wording that struck me is they both use " it is going to happen, it cannot be stopped" Well not verbatim but it seems they are aiming at similar timing
RedCairo
I think much of the complaint about this is not that someone is issuing a prediction, and not that the prediction may be of, er, fringe nature. I suspect most people reading this forum are at least the tiniest bit open to that sort of thing.
It's the INFOMERCIAL nature of how it's being done. ("But wait... there's more!")
It is being presented like a "marketing hyberbole teaser."
I'd like to think that if something were such a big deal as to change humankind or our world, that taking it seriously might mean presenting it seriously.
It doesn't seem reasonable to blame people for reacting to the plainly-obvious presentation of this like "an internet marketing scam." Perhaps that's merely poor judgement on Brown's part, but it really is presented like that.
If one doesn't want to be mistaken for a duck, one shouldn't dress up like a duck. If he presents things in the manner of big-hype-teasers-that-just-drag-on, it makes sense that people are going to see it as, well, a big-hype-teaser-that-is-just-dragging-on.
People would probably be taking it far more seriously had he presented it more seriously. Reputation naturally follows presentation. I feel the blame for the reception lies with Brown, not with the public who are merely observing the obvious.edit on 20-2-2014 by RedCairo because: oops
Spiro
You have completely missed the whole point of his post, and to think you got loads of stars for being ignorant.
What he was saying is that his post outlines things from said companies that were to be released on a certain date but where not released on that date. It became credible when they where finally released. With me?
Now, what he is saying is that Mr Brown has something to share. He had a date but then postponed that date for another time, just like said mentioned companies. Mr Brown has not shared the info " YET " so its not a hoax like some are claiming it to be.
Dont you read posts before replying or are you a star whore?
Spiro
Update on the Major Announcement: I just got news that it looks like the major announcement mentioned often on this page may happen SOONER rather than later. Things are in flux now, but coming together. I will keep everyone informed on this page. I have seen people speculating about what the announcement may mean. I am sorry to have kept people in the dark, but you have no idea how much is going on behind the scenes. I am still saying mid-March for the announcement, but do not be surprised if it is a bit sooner than that. All I can advise for now is to follow the Implications Postings closely. They will soon make lots of sense. Another one will be posted in six hours.
habfan1968
I was not aware that Nesara had delayed announcing
Goodwin began commenting on NESARA in connection with Omega Trust, a fraudulent investment scheme whose creator, Clyde Hood, was on trial at the time. According to Goodwin, Omega Trust investors would receive their returns after NESARA was announced.[1][9] Goodwin repeatedly predicted that the NESARA announcement would occur in the very near future,[10][11][12] although in later years she became more reserved in these predictions.[13]
After Goodwin began commenting on NESARA, other internet-based conspiracy theorists latched onto it. One supporter, Sheldan Nidle, ties the imminent NESARA announcement into his years-old prophesy of an imminent large scale UFO visitation by benevolent aliens (occasionally on his website reports, but more prominently in his videos,[14] seminars and public appearances). Jennifer Lee, who used to publish internet NESARA status reports almost daily[15] on her now defunct site, discussed a host of other-worldly and "interdimensional" beings who are helping behind the scenes to get NESARA announced. Internet evangelist Sherry Shriner, who operates many websites, sees NESARA as linked to malevolent reptiloid aliens she feels have long controlled the U.S. Government.[16]
Some NESARA detractors claim that NESARA is a cult designed primarily to provide an income to Goodwin and others. They point to the fact that Goodwin, Lee, and Nidle frequently asked their readers to donate money.[23][24][25] Goodwin, who also asked readers to donate their frequent flyer miles,[26] claimed that she needed and had used the funds to travel to various locations around the world to secretly meet with high-level government officials about getting NESARA announced.[26][27] Some NESARA supporters also make the claim that otherworldly beings are working to get NESARA announced. These include a "channeled" cosmic being called "Hatonn"[28] (an android Pleiadean), and another named Sananda. According to some Ascended Master Teaching proponents such as Joshua David Stone, Sheldan Nidle, and Luis Prada, Sananda is the "galactic name" of Ascended Master Jesus, which he uses in his role as Commander-in-Chief of the Ashtar Command flying saucer fleet. Pallas Athena is regarded as being the Vice-Commander of the saucer fleet. Ashtar (Ashtar Sheran) is regarded in these teachings as being third-in-command.[29] Saint Germain, an Ascended Master borrowed from the I AM Movement and the Church Universal and Triumphant, along with benevolent aliens from the Galactic Federation, are also frequently mentioned (most prominently by Nidle) as working towards the NESARA announcement. The designation of George W. Bush as a disguised reptilian often co-occurs with this claim.[30] Goodwin has claimed that Ascended Master Saint Germain has come down from the etheric plane to physically meet with heads of banks and world leaders regarding the NESARA announcement.[31][32] The prominence of failed prophecy also lends support to the cult theory. NESARA supporters often tell their readers that the NESARA announcement is going to happen in a matter of days. These claims have been made too many times to enumerate, without ever coming to fruition. According to the documentary Waiting For NESARA, the claim was also made prior to March 2003 that George Bush was planning the war with Iraq only to further delay the NESARA announcement. It was prophesied that spiritual beings and UFOs would intervene with Bush's plans and prevent the war.[17] A June 2006 complaint to the Washington consumer protection division accused Goodwin of using the NESARA story to defraud a 64-year-old San Francisco woman of at least $10,000. The woman's daughter said the actual amount is much larger, in the hundreds of thousands.[19]
but I could see how they would run into big problems getting something as grand in scope as what they are proposing in order.
I still don't see the money making aspect of either of these situations though.
Coagula
reply to post by butcherguy
Haha, nope I haven't seen his art, but by the way you described it I don't think I'll bother having a look as I'll probably feel sad for the canvas!
I looked... WTF, hahahahahaha;
www.courtneybrown.com...
www.courtneybrown.com...
This guy has some strange sexual fantasies!edit on 20-2-2014 by Coagula because: (no reason given)
Kokatsi
The only thing I do not understand in this event in February or March is why is the announcement postponed at all? If he saw some earth-shattering revelation, why not share it?
"Something important is going to happen sometime next month, February 2014. Nothing can stop it now.
we are now expecting the announcement to happen in mid-March
habfan1968
This is a very interesting topic so far. The updates that seem to be up to 9 so far are very interesting. Someone posted links to NESARA info as it could be related. In the NESARA links the wording that struck me is they both use " it is going to happen, it cannot be stopped" Well not verbatim but it seems they are aiming at similar timing and trying to co-ordinated large groups of people in alot of places world wide.
Also, some posters here have mentioned that DR.Brown is moving goal posts etc.. to gain web hits to his site or sell some book. ATSers are his target market, how many of us have bought anything from his site? probably none of us. How much money is he making on web hits? really ?
Last, from the way I read it he is just trying to get people to be aware of an announcement coming from someone else, it's not even his own announcement.
hellobruce
Kokatsi
The only thing I do not understand in this event in February or March is why is the announcement postponed at all? If he saw some earth-shattering revelation, why not share it?
He is just doing what most people with a "prediction" do.
Make a vague claim, wait till something happens then claim you predicted it.
He originally said
"Something important is going to happen sometime next month, February 2014. Nothing can stop it now.
Nothing can stop it now.... oh dear, it looks like it was stopped!
we are now expecting the announcement to happen in mid-March
So a announcement that "nothing can stop" was stopped!
just a hoaxer.
Lokk555
reply to post by hellobruce
He sounded really convincing at first, as notihng will stop it and so on, yet it was moved one month further...
I was speaking in a broader sense; subject matter referring to that which falls under the Predictions & Prophecies Forum. If one doesn't believe or isn't at the very least open, why debase, especially when a final announcement has yet to be made? Debunk to your heart's content after the fact, but prior to the event is just derailing the thread for those who are open or interested IMO.
Subject matter? No-one knows what this is about...
I think whereas you (and others) see it as an unnecessarily long teaser, I see it as necessary in that many of these concepts in the Implications are new to people, and everyone is awake to varying degrees. The building delivery is giving people time to acclimate to ideas which may be fresh and outside of people's comfort zones.
If one doesn't want to be mistaken for a duck, one shouldn't dress up like a duck. If he presents things in the manner of big-hype-teasers-that-just-drag-on, it makes sense that people are going to see it as, well, a big-hype-teaser-that-is-just-dragging-on.
MoonBlossom
If he announced whatever-it-is straight away, then people would be discussing only that, and some will have had no background from which to hypothesize a contextual thought, and jump to conclusions that we here at ATS already experience - such as "conspiracy nut" and the ilk.
As far as it being about marketing, while that may end up being true - no one can part someone from their money unless they are willing to BE parted from it.
Here is the kicker, Mr. Brown's preface-posts are intended for the folks here who can't even grasp what I said in my post. He using them to help unravel some of the locked in brain programming that causes this kind of bizarre outburst when confronted with non-government approved information.
...I haven't really seen this behavior before in person - only in anonymous forums.