TSA Harasses Police Chief--Placed On Administrative Leave--Told to Disband Entire Police Department

The story unfolds: Traveling by commercial airlines from Albuquerque, NM to LasVegas,NV, Harger was asked by TSA to show his credentials. Minutes later a man flashed a badge claiming to be a federal agent (agency unknown) also demanding to see Harger’s credentials.

Harger informed the federal agent that he was traveling to attend the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association Convention in LasVegas....

TSA Harasses Police Chief--Placed On Administrative Leave--Told to Disband Entire Police Department

And then, a day after his return from the Constitutional Convention, Harger was fired and told to disband his entire department.

His crime? Apparently going to the convention and pledging publicly to uphold the Constitution against federal laws that seek to disarm citizens and violate the fourth amendment.

Between this and the dozens of other events pointing in the same direction (the vast number of officers and generals being removed from command), does anyone here still believe there ISN'T an agenda at work to remove those from power who actually respect their oaths?

Beware, folks. Beware.

The criminal acts of this federal government are growing more brazen by the day. And in case you don't know how this all goes, in case you're shy about speaking out against this now, maybe I should remind you of this:

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.

The time to raise your voices is now, people. If you don't speak out against this, there won't be anyone left to speak out for you.

reply to post by therealguyfawkes


Trust the police to interpret the constitution do you? Why is that?
Is it because you believe a person that looks and thinks like you will protect your interests?

That's not going to do it for me. I prefer the judicial system to interpret the constitution. It's not perfect, but it's better than any other system I've seen so far.

InverseLookingGlass
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Trust the police to interpret the constitution do you? Why is that?
Is it because you believe a person that looks and thinks like you will protect your interests?

That's not going to do it for me. I prefer the judicial system to interpret the constitution. It's not perfect, but it's better than any other system I've seen so far.

The Judicial system has been bought just like the major political candidates and parties. (my Opinion).
That being said, Trust yourself to interpret the Constitution, then be active and vocal in support of people you agree with, be they police chiefs, sheriffs or politicians.
Sheriffs and Politicians (supposedly) are elected by their constituents. Police Chiefs are appointed (usually by working their way up through the ranks).
If you trust none of them, the smart choice, become active yourself and run for office, you cannot fight city hall but you can be elected to the council.

Interesting thread OP. I went looking for more info on this and didn't come up with any thing more than what you had posted. I looked on Jemez News nothing there either which I found odd. But what I did find makes this story even more convoluted then it is.

Everything changed for Shane Harger on Oct. 20, 2007.
He was in his first year as a Valencia County sheriff's deputy when he responded to a 911 call from then-Albuquerque police Officer Levi Chavez II, who told dispatchers his wife, Tera Chavez, had fatally shot herself with his duty weapon.
Harger saw a number of things at the Chavez home in Los Lunas that were inconsistent with suicide, he told attorneys 15 months later.

Source

It may not be that he attended the convention that got him fired but that someone has it in for him and this just became the excuse.

reply to post by InverseLookingGlass


The trouble with that line of thinking is... the judicial system is just as corrupt as the police. Doesn't matter if you go up or down the food chain, It's all tainted. I'm glad my father is not alive to see what corruption has done to this country. A lot of good American soldiers lost their lives for our freedom, just to have it sold out for cash beneath our feet by the powers within. Truly a sad day in America!

reply to post by InverseLookingGlass

I prefer the judicial system to interpret the constitution.

Man you don't want to go through the judicial system.

Unless of course you have money to burn.

reply to post by grey580


There are a lot of good LEO's out there that do respect and honor the constitution.

However, lately I've noticed that "Oathkeepers" has gone silent. Are they under pressure ?

Just an odd question here..but I looked up the town he was a Police Chief in, wondering what the heck would cause a whole police dept to be disbanded over the actions of one guy??

Well.. Jemez Springs, New Mexico is a few square miles of town with 375 people living in it, according to recent population figures.

So..how large a police department was there? The Chief ...and who else? I'm just curious if he WAS the Department or if he actually had one or two others working shifts to cover when he slept? It couldn't be that big for less than 400 people in Rural NM?

Already Posted

Source

Jemez Springs, NM is a tourist destination. With a population of 252, the police department enjoys ten part-time officers and volunteers with many working about 8 hours per month.

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reply to post by 2manyholes


Ahhh.. thank you.. I'll check the US Census when I get home. That source loaded so much with it, it took over a full minute to come up on the school computers here. Just an FYI....

Thanks for the reply tho!

However, lately I've noticed that "Oathkeepers" has gone silent.

reply to post by SIEGE


The Oathbreakers is more like it....they talked a big game about upholding the Constitution, but when push came to shove? They have done NOTHING. It's hard to know how many Constitutional violations have to take place before they actually UPHOLD the oath they like to talk so much about. I have less respect for them than I do those snakes in Washington.

I know that the Civil Rights Dept of Justice is dwindling in numbers as they are not replacing those of us leaving, so you may be onto something..

Just a follow up on this and I had something far more detailed but just not in the mood to retype it all after a browser crash.

Census Shows 250 today. In 1990 it was 413. In 2000, 375. Couple that with the fact the US, per capita has about 256 citizens to every 1 cop according to BLS Stats.

So this town was 10 cops, plus volunteers ..making it 1:25 or, with volunteers, maybe closer to 1:15. Thats one hell of a police-citizen ratio for a small shrinking town. Maybe I'm not the only one to wonder why they required such a powerful presence in the middle of nowhere? Hwy 4 may supply ticket revenue I suppose...?

From the OP's link, there are at least 8 reasons why he got fired... This is a part of what he signed at that Constitutional Officer shindig. Every one of them constitutional, and every one of them against what our wonderful government stands for.

The following abuses will not be allowed or tolerated:

1) Registration of personal firearms under any circumstances.

2) Confiscation of firearms without probable cause, due process, and constitutionally compliant warrants issued by a local or state jurisdiction.

3) Audits or searches of a citizen’s personal affairs or finances without probable cause, due process, and constitutionally compliant warrants issued by a local or state jurisdiction.

4) Inspections of person or property without probable cause and constitutionally compliant warrants as

required by the 4th Amendment and issued by a local or state jurisdiction.

5) The detainment or search of citizens without probable cause and proper due process compliance, or the informed consent of the citizen.

6) Arrests with continued incarcerations without charges and complete due process, including, but not limited

to public and speedy jury trials, in a court of state or local jurisdiction.

7) Domestic utilization of our nation’s military or federal agencies operating under power granted under the laws of war against American citizens.

8) Arrest of citizens or seizure of persons or property without first notifying and obtaining the express consent of the local sheriff.

Source (same as OP's) (quoted to highlight important info for thread perusers)