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poet1b
reply to post by diggindirt
I heard a similar story, except the guy who made millions wasn't born so poor, and made his fortune by being a good salesman, conning people into buying stuff for far more than it was worth.
Plenty of criminals work real hard to gain their stolen loot, but a con man is still a con man, no matter how much money is made.
I think you made your story up.
beezzer
spiritualzombie
Leonidas
spiritualzombie
The 1% are the problem.
Time for a massive change. I vote for a mass redistribution of wealth.edit on 30-1-2014 by spiritualzombie because: (no reason given)
There have been a few leaders who agree with you. Which Great Leader inspires you? Was it Joseph Stalin? Chairman Mao?
Answer me how much money I am allowed to keep, and how much you will take.
You started this thread, so tell me, how much of my money do I get to keep?
The ideals of truth and justice inspire me. Right and wrong. The idea that we the people decide the direction we go, not those at the very top of a pyramid.
It's surprising that on this site there would be this much support for protecting corruption.
I'm not protecting corruption, I'm just not endorsing theft.
spiritualzombie
beezzer
spiritualzombie
Leonidas
So how much money is a person allowed to keep?
Who decides? You?
Decided by a court.
Who populates the court?
That's definitely not for me to decide. Good people, fair people.
Are you going to ask me next who I hire to be the bailiff? What building do the proceedings take place? Familiarize yourself with a court room. Maybe watch the movie a Few Good Men. You'll have a decent visual in your mind of what a court room looks like, how judges are dressed, and who populates a jury.
ketsuko
I think I read about this ... It was The French Revolution. And you think of yourself as Robespierre.
beezzer
spiritualzombie
beezzer
spiritualzombie
Leonidas
So how much money is a person allowed to keep?
Who decides? You?
Decided by a court.
Who populates the court?
That's definitely not for me to decide. Good people, fair people.
Are you going to ask me next who I hire to be the bailiff? What building do the proceedings take place? Familiarize yourself with a court room. Maybe watch the movie a Few Good Men. You'll have a decent visual in your mind of what a court room looks like, how judges are dressed, and who populates a jury.
So we get the 1% who have committed crimes or not. Take their money, scare them, kill them.
Let's solve greed by theft.
Let's investigate all successful people to see if they have passed your version of a litmus test.
(just kill them all, it'll be easier)
beezzer
spiritualzombie
beezzer
spiritualzombie
Leonidas
So how much money is a person allowed to keep?
Who decides? You?
Decided by a court.
Who populates the court?
That's definitely not for me to decide. Good people, fair people.
Are you going to ask me next who I hire to be the bailiff? What building do the proceedings take place? Familiarize yourself with a court room. Maybe watch the movie a Few Good Men. You'll have a decent visual in your mind of what a court room looks like, how judges are dressed, and who populates a jury.
So we get the 1% who have committed crimes or not. Take their money, scare them, kill them.
Let's solve greed by theft.
Let's investigate all successful people to see if they have passed your version of a litmus test.
(just kill them all, it'll be easier)
spiritualzombie
ketsuko
I think I read about this ... It was The French Revolution. And you think of yourself as Robespierre.
I think you guys fight me on this because you cling to visions of Stalin and Hitler and whoever. That's who you want to fight so you put that label on me and don't listen to a word I'm saying. If you read what I'm saying, you'll see I'm talking about corruption and justice.
ketsuko
reply to post by beezzer
The best part is we get all this from someone who admitted early on in the thread that he suffers from greed to the point where he can't even play a civilized Monopoly game but has to manipulate it long past the point of the end just to keep enjoying racking up more fake money of the other players.
He's fighting himself. Maybe he should look in the mirror and conquer his own demons before he purports to save the rest of the world.
ketsuko
spiritualzombie
ketsuko
I think I read about this ... It was The French Revolution. And you think of yourself as Robespierre.
I think you guys fight me on this because you cling to visions of Stalin and Hitler and whoever. That's who you want to fight so you put that label on me and don't listen to a word I'm saying. If you read what I'm saying, you'll see I'm talking about corruption and justice.
No, you're not.
You're talking about taking what others have because you have decided that they must have gotten it through greed which you would define as a crime. And, while greed is certainly a sin, it is not a crime and you have no way of knowing how many of those who have more than you are actually greedy or got their money through greed.
You want to subject everyone who has this mythical amount to a trial and put them through pain and suffering in order to determine their innocence in a country whose legal motto is innocent until proven guilty.
You, sir, are the one out of bounds here.
spiritualzombie
beezzer
spiritualzombie
beezzer
spiritualzombie
Leonidas
So how much money is a person allowed to keep?
Who decides? You?
Decided by a court.
Who populates the court?
That's definitely not for me to decide. Good people, fair people.
Are you going to ask me next who I hire to be the bailiff? What building do the proceedings take place? Familiarize yourself with a court room. Maybe watch the movie a Few Good Men. You'll have a decent visual in your mind of what a court room looks like, how judges are dressed, and who populates a jury.
So we get the 1% who have committed crimes or not. Take their money, scare them, kill them.
Let's solve greed by theft.
Let's investigate all successful people to see if they have passed your version of a litmus test.
(just kill them all, it'll be easier)
Do we not solve treason by execution?
Do we not solve monetary damages with money?
beezzer
spiritualzombie
beezzer
spiritualzombie
beezzer
spiritualzombie
Leonidas
So how much money is a person allowed to keep?
Who decides? You?
Decided by a court.
Who populates the court?
That's definitely not for me to decide. Good people, fair people.
Are you going to ask me next who I hire to be the bailiff? What building do the proceedings take place? Familiarize yourself with a court room. Maybe watch the movie a Few Good Men. You'll have a decent visual in your mind of what a court room looks like, how judges are dressed, and who populates a jury.
So we get the 1% who have committed crimes or not. Take their money, scare them, kill them.
Let's solve greed by theft.
Let's investigate all successful people to see if they have passed your version of a litmus test.
(just kill them all, it'll be easier)
Do we not solve treason by execution?
Do we not solve monetary damages with money?
According to you, it is now treason to have more than you. It's fun to discuss this on a forum board, it's scary when people like you are voted into office or have a following, though.
Because you're not interested in justice or equality.
You are interested in justifying theft.
You have endorsed persecution of everyone successful.
You have even endorsed the killing of successful people.
You want to frighten successful people.
You want to create new laws that would enable you to persecute and prosecute success.
You want to change the definition of success.
You want to determine what people need.
You want to determine what people want.
You are no better than those with whom you disagree with. Your ideology wants to place you at the top. Right where those with whom you despise are now sitting.
spiritualzombie
beezzer
spiritualzombie
beezzer
spiritualzombie
beezzer
spiritualzombie
Leonidas
So how much money is a person allowed to keep?
Who decides? You?
Decided by a court.
Who populates the court?
That's definitely not for me to decide. Good people, fair people.
Are you going to ask me next who I hire to be the bailiff? What building do the proceedings take place? Familiarize yourself with a court room. Maybe watch the movie a Few Good Men. You'll have a decent visual in your mind of what a court room looks like, how judges are dressed, and who populates a jury.
So we get the 1% who have committed crimes or not. Take their money, scare them, kill them.
Let's solve greed by theft.
Let's investigate all successful people to see if they have passed your version of a litmus test.
(just kill them all, it'll be easier)
Do we not solve treason by execution?
Do we not solve monetary damages with money?
According to you, it is now treason to have more than you. It's fun to discuss this on a forum board, it's scary when people like you are voted into office or have a following, though.
Because you're not interested in justice or equality.
You are interested in justifying theft.
You have endorsed persecution of everyone successful.
You have even endorsed the killing of successful people.
You want to frighten successful people.
You want to create new laws that would enable you to persecute and prosecute success.
You want to change the definition of success.
You want to determine what people need.
You want to determine what people want.
You are no better than those with whom you disagree with. Your ideology wants to place you at the top. Right where those with whom you despise are now sitting.
Beezzer I had respect for you, but I can see you don't really listen. I'm responding to everything your saying, but you can't afford me the same respect. I never said treason is having more money than me. Shame on you. You're not interested in discussion. I'm shocked so many people respect you when you can't even do battle on truthful ground.
beezzer
According to you, it is now treason to have more than you.
beezzer
And I call it how I see it.
Antigod
eriktheawful
reply to post by ColeYounger
He said there will always be SOME that never have a chance:
Young person or kid, cut down in war, gang fight, senesless other violent means.
Kids who drop from school and decide to run with gangs instead.
Many people in countries like North Korea......some starving to death while still kids.
Genocide in other countries.
Many examples of how SOME literally never had a chance.
So exactly how many people are the successful supposed to provide for? Why are the problems of other countries their responsibility? What makes one person responsible for anothers welfare?
(FYI, actually pro a welfare state, but there have to be limits)
Why is some idiot drop out gang member chanceless? I come from a truly crap background (begging for food bad) didn't get involved with crime and never got into debt.