Y-Chromosomal Adam Lived 208,300 Years Ago

The first Adam and the first Eve ? Anyway this is what science has found out as of Jan 23, 2014 by Sci-News.com ... I don't have a dog in this fight but I did find it interesting and hope you do too.

Dr Eran Elhaik from the University of Sheffield and his co-authors used conventional biological models to show that Y-chromosomal Adam is 8,300 years older than scientists originally believed. They put Y-chromosomal Adam within the time frame of the Mitochondrial Eve.

“It is obvious that modern humans did not interbreed with hominins living over 500,000 years ago. It is also clear that there was no single Adam and Eve but rather groups of Adams and Eves living side by side and wandering together in our world.”

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727Sky
The first Adam and the first Eve ?

Actually it would be the most recent Adam, not the first.
The most recent (male) common ancestor to all living humans.

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I have no dog in the fight either, all the less still found it rather interesting.

Dr Elhaik noted: “the question to what extend did our humans forbearers interbreed with their closest relatives is one of the hottest questions in anthropology that remains open.”

I have to ask. Why do Adam and Eve have belly buttons in every piece of artwork made about them?
Think about that one for a second, and get back to me!

if you read some hebrew scholars they talk about the pre- adamite age when the inhabitants of the earth had leathery skin

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They have identified the location of one bottleneck in the history of man. I would suspect that DNA taken from far flung and isolated peoples may not share this same "Adam" as an ancestor. What their data is is an extrapolation of a sample set, amalgamated into a worldwide blanketing statement.

Interesting, nonetheless. As it indicates that the bottleneck affected male and female and was thus likely to be geological/meteorological related instead of social/cultural. Which is much more aligned with Occams Razor, anyway.

Thanks for sharing.

Or why such the importance of everybody having a Blood Test now days. So far everybody that is either on healthcare or is getting healthcare is now being asked to supply a blood sample.

So far everyone I know has had to do one; form I never received yet! If somehow they could use that to trace back your blood line to Adam would prove that History is part Lie. Just what the Op brought up would change everything or will never fit with today's world.

Or open a door no one wants to enter. Although I would have to Peek lol.

Peace

oh look... its the out of africa theory again!

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Because the belly buttons are where the feeding tubes were inserted.

Elton

727Sky
The first Adam and the first Eve ?

Actually it would be the most recent Adam, not the first.

The most recent (male) common ancestor to all living humans.

Yep, that's what people aren't understanding when this is discussed,

IF there was a massive extinction event, and say two Members survive of ATS and meet up, they Continue humanity.

200,000 years past, they are now the "genetic" adam and eve, because they where the only remaining subset of successful genes that would of than gone on to repopulate the gene pool with their very specific remaining dna.

There would still be a rich genetic history that would of than been lost due to that original event, this could of happen several times, and most recently with the Toba event, the last human genetic bottle neck.

Well, it's nice to know they still haven't got it right. If I have neanderthal ancestors, than my line goes farther back than that. I cannot take just the predominant ancestors, I need to look at all my ancestors, no mater what species they were. It seems that some of us are part rapter. At least the ones like rapper music. The T is silent sometimes.

FraternitasSaturni
oh look... its the out of africa theory again!

Well it does kind of make sense if you think about Pangea and how it was arranged, the land bridges et, Africa was the central land mass for the world at one point, and most of our earliest civilizations grew around the Northern areas of Africa and the Arabian Peninsula.

I always wonder why Neanderthal never went *Into* Africa?

How did that happen?

They were in Spain and (what is now) the Eastern Mediterranean lands.

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It wouldn't even take that. Just the gaining of supremacy by a tribe of our ancestors. They likely would have had the "Adam" and "Eve" a few generations apart, in this case.

Limited resources, tribal fighting for supremacy and resources. The adam and eve actually lived before the bottleneck. It would be the leaders of the tribe that would carry these two genetic lines forward. Especially if humans still had more primitive societies at the time, where breeding was only done by the patriarch (and newborns by other "apes" would be treated with great hostility).

It is fascinating to think about...what it was like and everything.

Lets see,....if the African Eve is 250,000 yrs old and the Adam is 203,000 yrs old....then they must have lived a long time ......
FAIL...............

stirling
Lets see,....if the African Eve is 250,000 yrs old and the Adam is 203,000 yrs old....then they must have lived a long time ......
FAIL...............

Read my post above yours.