Indonesian President Says He Saw Black Cloud Trying to Enter His Bedroom

That's a new Ozzie superweapon, called the "black cloud". Don't mess with Australians.

Since when do we so adamantly believe heads of state without question? Only when they see ghosts it seems.

signalfire
The NSA must have a new black magick weapon.

Actually, that's a great idea. Make a killing machine or spying machine that people will interpret as something supernatural; they'll not only be afraid to talk about it but will be convinced they're going crazy and/or spend the rest of their life on conspiracy forums trying to figure it out.

They are WAY ahead of you, Dear.

Aphorism
Since when do we so adamantly believe heads of state without question? Only when they see ghosts it seems.

What do you mean?
You don't take everything that Kim Jong Un says with the utmost seriousness?
I do...he is Supreme.
Don't tell me that you don't believe everything our own dear leader speaks...he is leader of the FREE WORLD.
What about Hollande? France deserves two first ladies.

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Maybe a bit off topic this,but it may help some folks realize how the supernatural is engrained into the daily life of folks in Indonesia:
My Bro-in-law is from a remote village in rural indonesia.
He has told me of a few odd customs and ghost/demon stories from his area.
Most folks over there believe in evil spirits and ghosts.
If a person dies of illness,it is often attributed to bad spirits,if a crop fails the same thing.
Even though Islam has taken over as the main religion,they still have witch doctors in each village where locals can go to get a chicken sacrificed to cure measles,or to rid the curse of evil spirits.
Oh yeah,my bro-in-laws grandfather was from the local(now supposedly non practicing)headhunter tribe!
No joke,they were/are called the Dyaks.
One of the most interesting/amusing/scary things happened not long after he came to the UK-I was showing him a load of my rock collecion,geodes,crystals and then got to the fossils...
Oh dear,bro in law looked real scared and told me I must not touch those,and must throw them in a deep pit.
He went on to explain that demons hid these fake bones in the earth to trick people into thinking the earth was not made by god.
That was drummed into him and his classmates at school!!
Oh and he aslo gasped the indonesian words which my sister translated as "Giant goat!"upon meeting my beloved German Shepherd Dog.

Sorry for the off topic,nut it just goes to show demons and bad spirits are considered very real to folks over there-all the way up to the president.

Silcone Synapse
reply to post by FlyersFan

 

Maybe a bit off topic this,but it may help some folks realize how the supernatural is engrained into the daily life of folks in Indonesia:
My Bro-in-law is from a remote village in rural indonesia.
He has told me of a few odd customs and ghost/demon stories from his area.
Most folks over there believe in evil spirits and ghosts.
If a person dies of illness,it is often attributed to bad spirits,if a crop fails the same thing.
Even though Islam has taken over as the main religion,they still have witch doctors in each village where locals can go to get a chicken sacrificed to cure measles,or to rid the curse of evil spirits.
Oh yeah,my bro-in-laws grandfather was from the local(now supposedly non practicing)headhunter tribe!
No joke,they were/are called the Dyaks.
One of the most interesting/amusing/scary things happened not long after he came to the UK-I was showing him a load of my rock collecion,geodes,crystals and then got to the fossils...
Oh dear,bro in law looked real scared and told me I must not touch those,and must throw them in a deep pit.
He went on to explain that demons hid these fake bones in the earth to trick people into thinking the earth was not made by god.
That was drummed into him and his classmates at school!!
Oh and he aslo gasped the indonesian words which my sister translated as "Giant goat!"upon meeting my beloved German Shepherd Dog.

Sorry for the off topic,nut it just goes to show demons and bad spirits are considered very real to folks over there-all the way up to the president.

edit on 23/1/2014 by Silcone Synapse because: sp

Not off topic in my opinion...but you're absolutely right...customs and beliefs vary from country to country...even from city to city sometimes.
As a world leader though...crying g-g-g-ghost is a risk.

FlyersFan
The Indonesian president has had a close encounter with the supernatural. Looks like a DARK supernatural force. And it wasn't just him, but his wife also had the encounter. A dark swirling cloud, moving under intelligent control, that entered and exited his bedroom. I find it interesting that the president of a country would openly admit to this experience.

Maybe is the Dark Smoke Monster from LOST. Apparently the thing found the way out of the island :p

Well, I had a dark, broiling cloud thing hover over my futon one fine evening... witnessed by more than myself.

Witchcraft, demons, alien energy beings from dimension X? Dunno... but seemingly intelligent black clouds seem to exist... and lore says they aren't nice and huggy... but mine didn't do much, except try to posses an ex-gf ...maybe. Maybe it was her excuse for acting out... very liminal, either way.

So with some head of state, I bet all sorts of bad juju is directed his way... who knows (shakes head and looks nervously over shoulder).

FlyersFan
The Indonesian president has had a close encounter with the supernatural. Looks like a DARK supernatural force. And it wasn't just him, but his wife also had the encounter. A dark swirling cloud, moving under intelligent control, that entered and exited his bedroom. I find it interesting that the president of a country would openly admit to this experience. The only other president, that I know of, who has admitted to a supernatural event is George W. Bush (43). He said he saw a ghost in the White House (and his kids had a few white house ghost stories of their own).

Indonesian President (Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono ) Says He Believes in Witchcraft

“Suddenly, my wife screamed,” writes Yudhoyono in the 900-page book, “Selalu Ada Pilihan” (There is Always a Choice). “There was this thick dark cloud hovering beneath the ceiling, trying to enter my bedroom. I then asked everybody to pray to seek Allah’s help. I closed the door to my room but left others wide open. The revolving clouds eventually headed out of my house.”

Yudhoyono lives in his private residence, not at the 19th-century presidential palace in Jakarta, which is considered haunted, Bayuni said. Only two presidents, Sukarno from 1945-1965 and Abdurrahman Wahid from 1999-2001, made the palace their residence.

In September 2010, Yudhoyono skipped a meeting of the U.S. and the Association of Southeast Asian Nations held on the sidelines of the U.N. General Assembly in New York, partly because of “rumors of rampant witchcraft in the palace,” according to a WikiLeaks cable.

It was probably a lost Royal Australian Navy patrol boat.

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Maybe he spent some time with Mayor Ford out in Toronto doing what Ford does often/best?

Wow this is nuts, I had a experience like this but I swore it was a dream. It was around 3-4 am, and I suddenly woke up, and I heard my door slowly open, and a black cloud floated into my bedroom about 5-6ft off the ground, around the corner of my bed and near my face. Then I think I woke up or it disappeared because it wasn't there anymore. I just told myself, damn that was a messed up dream.

My first thought was LOST.

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The source: RELIGION news service

You can even see their agenda in their slant:

His government last year proposed amendments to the 1918 Criminal Code, adding a clause that states using black magic to cause “someone’s illness, death, mental or physical suffering” is an offense with a punishment of up to five years in jail or 300 million rupiah ($25,000) in fines.

but if you follow their own link, it actually states:

Article 293 Paragraph 1 of the draft bill stipulates that a person who declares himself to have magic powers may face a maximum of five years in prison or pay a maximum of Rp 300 million (US$30,969) in fines. The same applies to those who inform, encourage or offer such magic services to others.

The article is intended to address public anxiety about black magic which can be difficult to prove before the law. The draft also stipulates a provision to prevent and to end vigilantism against a person allegedly practicing witchcraft or black magic and bans people from taking profit from such practices, saying that they may face additional penalty of one-third the initial sentence.

The difference is night and day.

Instead of belief in black magic, the new legislation actually discourages such belief.

Its disgusting.

We need to put these things behind us.

I'm not entirely sure but I think in Indonesia it's common to believe in such things, so it wouldn't be so abnormal as it would be here. Interesting nonetheless

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anyone on this planet 'has "magic power"' imho

'brainwashing' via msm is one of the 'magics'.

another common 'magic' attack is when a person scold another,
whoever being scolded will 'receive' the 'negative' energy.

even prayers are 'magics' including 'christian' and 'muslim' prayers, it can be 'white' or 'black', however they use it. i see prayers as non other than citing 'magic spells' or mantras.

even 'magic tricks' on tv show (although they are arts), are also 'magics'

science imho is also 'magics' (Just like Thor said in movie "Your ancestors called it magic and you call it science")

in this case, to stop magic practictioners, they should ban swearing, scolding, religions, arts, tv, science, etc

peace.

I'm pretty sure a swirling black concoction fluttered out of my rear the last time I ate Indonisian food. Nice try Mr.President.

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Well that's interesting. Just a prison sentence and a fine? I thought Islam would prescribe chopping off some arms and legs, or burning at the stake.


Dex

Remote Viewing Emanation

The Sundanese,Malay, Javanese of Indonesia have always had some of the highest densities of mysticism, voodoo, sorcery and paranormal. They call it illmu or sonething similar. It means hidden science or old knowledge. The badui tribe in western java outside Bandung have a lot of it. Goes back to their spiritual tenag delam/ maempo/ wiwitan / tritanktu beliefs.

So no suprise people including the president over there are experiencing a lot of paranormal things. It's really suite common over there.

I've been visited by something like this before. But it wasn't a swirling mass, it had a figure like a very tall person about 8 feet tall. Something woke me up one night with a feeling of dread/fear like something awful was about to happen, and this thing came toward me at a rapid pace. I yelled at it, and it disappeared but not before freaking me the hell out.

My friends were asleep in the room next to mine and could see down the hallway and saw whatever it was when I yelled and woke them up.

Since then have never seen it but have been woken up a few times with the same feeling.

Always happens around 2-4AM.