Boeing admits working on antigravity in Phamtom works division

reply to post by Zaphod58

May be something to do with the futur SR-Skunk Works Beast

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The website may be credible but the documentaries on there don't have to be, I've yet to see a completely factual doco.

reply to post by Stealthbomber
I know exactly what you are talking about some of the posts are fake (To the 4th Power Square).Others however are credible.Bur really fun to surf around still you should check it out if i didnt beleive it could be a usefull tool i would not have put it on. I learned my lesson with the (Mars Base thing)!

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Some UFO sightings are black project aircraft, the CIA used to fuel the rumours about aliens to cover up the SR-71 and U-2 spyplanes.

sparrowstail
Dr. Paul Laviollette who worked in this field, listed many companies, including Lear, Martin Lochheed and many others and individuals who have worked on anti gravity. I forget exactly the name of one researcher (I think Brown was his name) from the 50's who he said had successfully come up with large scale models about two thirds the size of human sized disks. He indicated that his designs would go many times mach speed. Apparently you charge the leading wing with positive ions and charge the back with negative particles and this creates a field that adds to pushing the craft. He says the stealth air crafts all employ this leading and rear edge charge effect.
Most interesting is how the Patent office intercepts and flatly rejects any design or device that claims 0 point energy. Claiming quackery and impossibility due to mainstream physics laws that say its impossible. He indicated many electro magnetic designs had come through and were intercepted and disappeared.
Very enjoyable listen from a very knowledgeable guy. Or so he seems.

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Yes we had this technology as far back as in the 60's and we got it from aliens.
Listen to this 17 minute report from a retired CIA officer:
www.youtube.com...

reply to post by jerry777


I hope at long last that the pure-of-heart aviation enthusiasts that frequent this forum are finally beginning to understand that they have been having the wool pulled over their eyes for decades. Of course, some of them have deftly ignored the growing presence of the black triangle "problem" because they wanted to believe that the aerospace industry and government was being up front with all that it did. Of course, that is never true on any score, let alone the greatest weapon every developed. And some frequenters of this forum probably have other reasons to not accept or discuss the issue.

The link below takes you to a generally worded article about what is in the works. I surmise that the triangles have reached a stage of development and number that they can be specifically manufactured for various uses and dispensed to the services. I would suggest that readers of the article ignore the timeframe discussed and assume it is part of the cover story of the eventual unveiling of the triangle lifters far sooner.

Notice that use of the particular term "lifter" in the official Pentagon language. That term, an old sci-fi term, fits the description of the triangles exactly. Of course, triangles are not related to the need for air or the use of air for motion except that they move through that medium if less well then they move through free space. Therefore, to call them "aircraft" is contrary to the correct use of that word. Neither will the terms of "fly," "flying" or "flight" be correct, but they likely will remain as nostalgic terms from the old days.

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Aliensun
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I hope at long last that the pure-of-heart aviation enthusiasts that frequent this forum are finally beginning to understand that they have been having the wool pulled over their eyes for decades. Of course, some of them have deftly ignored the growing presence of the black triangle "problem" ...

We talk about "black triangles" all the time. Strictly speaking, they're not air breathers so it's not aviation. Per se. ;D

The link below takes you to a generally worded article about what is in the works. I surmise that the triangles have reached a stage of development and number that they can be specifically manufactured for various uses and dispensed to the services. I would suggest that readers of the article ignore the timeframe discussed and assume it is part of the cover story of the eventual unveiling of the triangle lifters far sooner.

The article is clearly not about "triangles" or "lifters". It's about a helicopter. A helicopter designed for joint services use, which means it'll be a mongrel everyone hates. Hopefully it won't be a total dog. The article is dancing around the details, this is a component of the JMR phase of FVL. Or, in civilian, there's a program called Future Vertical Lift which is supposed to produce four new wonderchoppers that are stealthy, quiet, light, tough, magical, powered by unicorn poots and able to do any mission. It's being overseen by the Army and SORDAC. A phase of FVL is the Joint Multi Role development, which this is a part of. If you want a bigger picture of what's going on go search "Future Vertical Lift Army" and you ought to get all you want to read.

As a side note, we're putting in bids to do parts of the electrooptic targeting systems and the radar *coffitmighthavesarcoff* if LM wins. Although it'll have to go a long way to be better than a Killer Egg, which is old and too small but always gets the job done.

Notice that use of the particular term "lifter" in the official Pentagon language. That term, an old sci-fi term, fits the description of the triangles exactly.

It's mil speak for helicopters. It also covers hybrids like the Osprey. It's possible that the end result of some of the JM-R development types will BE something like an Osprey, although some of them will likely be traditional helicopters.

eta: A more informative link...

reply to post by Stealthbomber
just about all the credible sightings have one thing in common the craft made no sound or a low humming. i think in the high 90's the triangle craft are all ours no matter what propulsion it uses.

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Future Vertical Lift which is supposed to produce four new wonderchoppers that are stealthy, quiet, light, tough, magical, powered by unicorn poots and able to do any mission.

its hard to type because im laughing so hard that was the BEST reply i ever heard your a GENIUS. a real one. Thankyou i am not really qualified to answer that post Thankyou again my ATS friend for helping me out!

Stealthbomber
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Some UFO sightings are black project aircraft, the CIA used to fuel the rumours about aliens to cover up the SR-71 and U-2 spyplanes.

I always wonder if Lazor and Lear were on the CIA payroll to do exactly that. Spread BS to distract. BS is a free and renewable resource thats cheap to use

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Could be, may have even been unknowingly apart of it. United nuclear has a few govt contracts now though, so there maybe somewhat of a truth to it.

www.youtube.com...reply to post by Stealthbomber
Theirs 2 things ive been holding back on. The one i posted in the Thread (American Ultra Reversed Engineered Projects)
and that was Congress approved 6 Billion dollars for the (Super Collider) ie President Ronald Reagon Stars Wars.That was 1. The second one i was very affraid to mention.Both of which i personal saw on the 6:00 o'clock news.sitting in my living room after work.sometime in the 1980's.OK this was the second one on the news they said that NASA discovered a 26 mile long staion in space.It was not ours ie the USA did not build it.Now i see the utube that alot of my Brothers and Sisterd are going to be pissed off at but thats OK.and yes i am talking about Dr.Steven Greer. (26 mile long Mother ship discovered) so can you see the comparason.NASA called it a station Greer called it a Mother ship. Whatever it is it is out there.So here we are.My question is are they good or evil.What are their intentions.Perhaps this is why the Black world is building so many triangle Craft Perhaps it is time to kick some off world Ass.Perhaps.I hope not.I hope they are friendly.But if they are not Threaten my World i will DESTROY your World or die trying.

Some UFO sightings are black project aircraft, the CIA used to fuel the rumours about aliens to cover up the SR-71 and U-2 spyplanes.

reply to post by Stealthbomber
I agree also i beleive the alien thing was put forth to inflick fear so their would be unlimited funds for the Projects.

www.youtube.com... great video

reply to post by darksidius


It always amuses me to hear about the "new" technology of changing shape. Some time around 1982 they took an EF-111 and gave it a "Mission Adaptable Wing" that changed shape based on the phase of flight.

reply to post by Bedlam


One of the designs is actually looking at going backwards. It's a shrouded quad tiltrotor similar to one proposed in the 70s or so.

Stealthbomber
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Could be, may have even been unknowingly apart of it. United nuclear has a few govt contracts now though, so there maybe somewhat of a truth to it.

Thats what Im thinking. He played the game and got a reward like a good little CIA puppy. Lear was CIA and seeing as he was joined at hip for a while with Lazor he could very well have been a handler.

Just google Area 51 and select images. Almost all the pictures that first come up are of aliens and UFO's very few info on real stuff. To me thats a good bit of disinfo done right there

Bedlam
A helicopter designed for joint services use, which means it'll be a mongrel everyone hates. Hopefully it won't be a total dog. The article is dancing around the details, this is a component of the JMR phase of FVL. Or, in civilian, there's a program called Future Vertical Lift which is supposed to produce four new wonderchoppers that are stealthy, quiet, light, tough, magical, powered by unicorn poots and able to do any mission.

What are OUR unicorns doing under THEIR sand, boy?

In 2mn 15" of the Lockheed video there is an interesting plane who look like a new hypersonic design, another design for a sr-72 like plane ?

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Could be just a concept, and we all know how they end up turning out.