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projectbane
See, you post a few vids OR names. So can I of hundred and thousands of officers who have done something heroic for the public or lost THEIR lives fighting the bad guy.
If you could be bothered to read ever post from start to finish you will see I acknowledged the few troubling incidents but that doesn't make up the whole. So MR Vforwhatever go back read EVERYTHING clearly and slowly.
Being convicted of a crime in a court of LAW is not down to the Police....that believe it or NOT is the JURY of CIVILIANS!!
projectbane
WE DO NOT LIVE IN A POLICE STATE, for those continuously profess that we live in a police state, it funny that you can say that without a smile or a smirk. It highly amusing to me that you can be so plied with ignorance. So far away from reality and so far under the tin-foil umbrella.
Grimpachi
Well until I read this I didn't actually think people honestly thought this was a police state. I had always thought when people said that they were inferring we are moving towards or that actions seemed like a police state.
I have been to a lot of countries in my life and while I will say there are many changes in this country that do concern me I can not honestly claim our nation is anywhere near a police state.
EvillerBob
projectbane
WE DO NOT LIVE IN A POLICE STATE, for those continuously profess that we live in a police state, it funny that you can say that without a smile or a smirk. It highly amusing to me that you can be so plied with ignorance. So far away from reality and so far under the tin-foil umbrella.
But you're right, I suppose. You don't need to be worried until your local police start rolling around in military vehicles and dressing up like SEALs. Oh... wait...
kx12x
reply to post by beezzer
That may very well be true, but if we still have the means and freedoms to do something I about it, so I wouldn't say we're quite there yet. If we as a people continue to let governent continue unchecked, then I think we could easily end up as a police state in the near future.
But hasn't it always been the job of the people to keep the government in check? You can pretty much expect people in positions of power to get out of line if no one holds them responsible, which is supposed to be our job, and I don't see that happening.
But nonetheless, I believe its possible to turn things around using the freedoms we currently have, which to me, tells me we aren't quite a police state.
Then again, I might be wrong. I guess we will never know until we try.
Yes, we live in a police state. They have simply chosen, at this point in time, not to exercise the laws that they have already passed to deny us any movement and/or freedoms.
Grimpachi
reply to post by Sremmos80
You would need to be specific as to which laws you are talking about so I could reference them.
And yes I have lived in countries where there were permanent and mobile checkpoints throughout the country where everyone was stopped cars and persons searched, papers shown and it wasn't unusual to have authorities come into residences to have a look around where again papers were shown at least until they knew your face. I will start drawing true comparisons once the US starts blocking websites and censoring youtube.
Grimpachi
reply to post by onequestion
Well in my post I said I didn't know people actually thought we already were a police state which some claim that we currently are.
As long as we are drawing comparisons to see if we are then we are not. If we ever do become one we will not need to draw comparisons the question will not need to be asked we will know without a doubt.
I was just a bit shocked that some people think we are already there.
You know in a true police state we wouldn't be casually talking about it online.
Grimpachi
reply to post by Sremmos80
You know I never said everything was okey dokey.