The Internet, World Governments, You, your privacy, and the NSA

This may be apparent to some already, but, I'm thinking it may not be apparent to everyone. Nor have I seen this spelled out previously.

When the "Internet" first came about, I remember reading about it.

History of The Internet

The history of the Internet began with the development of electronic computers in the 1950s. The first message was sent over the ARPANet, which evolved into the internet, from computer science Professor Leonard Kleinrock's laboratory at University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA), after the second piece of network equipment was installed at Stanford Research Institute (SRI). Packet switched networks such as ARPANET, Mark I at NPL in the UK, CYCLADES, Merit Network, Tymnet, and Telenet, were developed in the late 1960s and early 1970s using a variety of protocols. The ARPANET in particular led to the development of protocols for internetworking, in which multiple separate networks could be joined together into a network of networks.

Just in case some of you are not aware of what the ARPANET was...here is more information.....

What is ARPANET ?

The Advanced Research Projects Agency Network (ARPANET) was one of the world's first operational packet switching networks, the first network to implement TCP/IP, and the progenitor of what was to become the global Internet. The network was initially funded by the Advanced Research Projects Agency (ARPA, later DARPA) within the U.S. Department of Defense for use by its projects at universities and research laboratories in the US. The packet switching of the ARPANET, together with TCP/IP, would form the backbone of how the Internet works. The packet switching was based on concepts and designs by American engineer Paul Baran, British scientist Donald Davies[1][2] and Lawrence Roberts of the Lincoln Laboratory.[3] The TCP/IP communication protocols were developed for ARPANET by computer scientists Robert Kahn and Vinton Cerf, and also incorporated some designs from Louis Pouzin.

When the Internet first came into existence, I was amazed. Amazed at the idea that this would simply be "handed over" to the general public. Why would the US Government do anything so....so...altruistic?

Here's an interesting article to read on the topic of who actually created the Internet....

Did DARPA develop the Internet?

As naive as it may seem, I've only recently had an epiphany.

It is my contention that the brains behind DARPA and or the NSA saw the potential of the Internet as we'd come to know it today. They had visionaries working for them. Visionaries that BELIEVE in the system. I think it is highly probable that the agencies involved imagined a system that people and world governments would become dependent upon.

Information is key in our world. The Internet is our main form today of disseminating information. It has slowly but surely become such an integral part of our world that children born within the last fifteen years couldn't begin to imagine a life without the Internet. Even Doctors and dentists offices are now becoming 100% digital. It's entirely probable that at some point in the future, a one-world digital currency will be the norm for financial transactions.

All because of the Internet.

I posit that DARPA and or the NSA foresaw some version of this happening. Foresaw our dependance upon the very system that they sired. That they would build back doors into. They would enlist the help of major corporations for the promise of either payment or eased sanctions.

This help would then allow them access to our innermost thoughts and most private of secrets.




I am not naive enough to think this is earth shattering news. Rather, I'm just looking to help others connect the dots that it took me far too long to connect myself.

zeroBelief


History of The Internet

I can't but help say that in you're thread their was no word on Sir Tim Berners-Lee in which he is the history of the internet. It was him and him alone who gave the world the internet.

coolcatt

zeroBelief


History of The Internet

I can't but help say that in you're thread their was no word on Sir Tim Berners-Lee in which he is the history of the internet. It was him and him alone who gave the world the internet.

edit on 11-1-2014 by coolcatt because: (no reason given)

Read the links provided. You'll see your precious Mr Tim Berners-Lee listed.

Him and him alone? ARPANET transmitted the first message. That, in it's distillate form, is the Internet.

Also, your and there. You're welcome

coolcatt

zeroBelief


History of The Internet

I can't but help say that in you're thread their was no word on Sir Tim Berners-Lee in which he is the history of the internet. It was him and him alone who gave the world the internet.

edit on 11-1-2014 by coolcatt because: (no reason given)

And all along I thought it was Al Gore

Bilk22

coolcatt

zeroBelief


History of The Internet

I can't but help say that in you're thread their was no word on Sir Tim Berners-Lee in which he is the history of the internet. It was him and him alone who gave the world the internet.

edit on 11-1-2014 by coolcatt because: (no reason given)

And all along I thought it was Al Gore

No, see...we get to thank ol' uncle Al for "Global Warming".......

The internet was one tiny step toward the ultimate fusion of biology and technology.

zeroBelief
This help would then allow them access to our innermost thoughts and most private of secrets.

Only if people are naive enough to post such things online.

Oops! Excuse me, people are that naive.

Do you know DARPA "envisioned" USB back in 1970s ?
Do you know GPS is military derived ?
Do you know Internet is a military network with selected universities ?
Wait, thats wrong, Al Gore "invented" internet. My bad.
Coming soon near you, mass broadcast direct to brain.
Wait, thats bluebeam isnt it ? Cousin of bluetooth.

All in all, its getting out of their hands, but thanks to them, we have these things now.

I see what's your saying but what's stopping anyone from not connecting of their digital devices to the internet? Because nothing says your HAVE to connect your devices to the internet.

coolcatt

zeroBelief


History of The Internet

I can't but help say that in you're thread their was no word on Sir Tim Berners-Lee in which he is the history of the internet. It was him and him alone who gave the world the internet.

edit on 11-1-2014 by coolcatt because: (no reason given)

Tim Berners-Lee gave the world the World Wide Web the HTML language and the HTTP protocol, not the Internet.

He envisioned a global information space where information stored on computers everywhere was linked and available to anyone anywhere. There were two technologies already developed that would allow his vision to become reality.

Hypertext and The Internet.

In 1989, Berners-Lee submitted a proposal at CERN to develop an information system that would create a web of information. Initially, his proposal received no reply, but he began working on his idea anyway. In 1990, he wrote the Hypertext Transfer Protocol
(HTTP)—the language computers would use to communicate hypertext documents over the Internet and designed a scheme to give documents addresses on the Internet. Berners-Lee called this address a Universal Resource Identifier (URI). (This is now usually known as a URL—Uniform Resource Locator.) By the end of the year he had also
written a client program (browser) to retrieve and view hypertext documents. He called this client "WorldWideWeb." Hypertext pages were formatted using the Hypertext Markup Language (HTML) that Berners-Lee had written. He also wrote the first web server. A web server is the software that stores web pages on a computer and makes them available to be accessed by others. Berners-Lee set up the first web server known as "info.cern.ch." at CERN.
...
In 1991, he made his WorldWideWeb browser and web server software available on the Internet and posted notices to several newsgroups including alt.hypertext. The Web began to take off as computer enthusiasts around the world began setting up their own web servers.

www.ibiblio.org...

The internet is like a road, what travels on it is not its problem as its just the method of getting from A to B

Yeah. I have always believed the internet and associated tech is (or will eventually be) the real life version of Orwell's telescreen. Only far more sophisticated. When it all finally comes together, privacy of any kind will be next to unheard of. They will not just depend on you to type what you're thinking voluntarily. They will ultimately want to know what's going on in your head when you aren't voluntarily communicating with anyone.

And of course, it will also be a piece of cake for them to track just about everything else you do, store it in it's own unique database and continuously analyze everything with AI.

NullVoid
Do you know DARPA "envisioned" USB back in 1970s ?
Do you know GPS is military derived ?
Do you know Internet is a military network with selected universities ?
Wait, thats wrong, Al Gore "invented" internet. My bad.
Coming soon near you, mass broadcast direct to brain.
Wait, thats bluebeam isnt it ? Cousin of bluetooth.

All in all, its getting out of their hands, but thanks to them, we have these things now.

Unfortunately, I don't quite see how "we have these things now" thanks to them.

We have these things, riddled with compromised systems. Backdoors within backdoors. Crap, you can't even order from Best Buy any longer without the risk of having the TAO intercept your order and place malicious hardware and or software onto/into your precious....

RedmoonMWC

coolcatt

zeroBelief


History of The Internet

I can't but help say that in you're thread their was no word on Sir Tim Berners-Lee in which he is the history of the internet. It was him and him alone who gave the world the internet.

edit on 11-1-2014 by coolcatt because: (no reason given)

Tim Berners-Lee gave the world the World Wide Web the HTML language and the HTTP protocol, not the Internet.

He envisioned a global information space where information stored on computers everywhere was linked and available to anyone anywhere. There were two technologies already developed that would allow his vision to become reality.

Hypertext and The Internet.

In 1989, Berners-Lee submitted a proposal at CERN to develop an information system that would create a web of information. Initially, his proposal received no reply, but he began working on his idea anyway. In 1990, he wrote the Hypertext Transfer Protocol
(HTTP)—the language computers would use to communicate hypertext documents over the Internet and designed a scheme to give documents addresses on the Internet. Berners-Lee called this address a Universal Resource Identifier (URI). (This is now usually known as a URL—Uniform Resource Locator.) By the end of the year he had also
written a client program (browser) to retrieve and view hypertext documents. He called this client "WorldWideWeb." Hypertext pages were formatted using the Hypertext Markup Language (HTML) that Berners-Lee had written. He also wrote the first web server. A web server is the software that stores web pages on a computer and makes them available to be accessed by others. Berners-Lee set up the first web server known as "info.cern.ch." at CERN.
...
In 1991, he made his WorldWideWeb browser and web server software available on the Internet and posted notices to several newsgroups including alt.hypertext. The Web began to take off as computer enthusiasts around the world began setting up their own web servers.

www.ibiblio.org...

Muchos Garcios, mi amigo!!!

However, considering the thumbleton couldn't read the article I provided...I's not so sure he/she/it will be reading what you provided

BrianFlanders
Yeah. I have always believed the internet and associated tech is (or will eventually be) the real life version of Orwell's telescreen. Only far more sophisticated. When it all finally comes together, privacy of any kind will be next to unheard of. They will not just depend on you to type what you're thinking voluntarily. They will ultimately want to know what's going on in your head when you aren't voluntarily communicating with anyone.

And of course, it will also be a piece of cake for them to track just about everything else you do, store it in it's own unique database and continuously analyze everything with AI.

Well, there *are* ways around it. TOR, for instance. Or backing projects like the Kickstarter project for the Off-Pocket.

Off-Pocket

But unfortunately, our kids are getting silly in what information they post. This is what needs to be disrupted. Not to mention the naive adults who take little to no time to attempt to understand the technology that they are using...

"Dear FACEBOOK...I'm on VACATION for TWO WEEKS!!!"

....Today, a west Lexington home was burglarized......

Conspiracyskeptic
I see what's your saying but what's stopping anyone from not connecting of their digital devices to the internet? Because nothing says your HAVE to connect your devices to the internet.

Well, sure.

But, then you can't play "Words with Friends". Or endlessly twitter on. Or send emails. Or get your porn fix. Etc. Etc. Etc.

This is what I believe that in some glimmer of a sense, the NSA and DARPA foresaw the potential for. Not to mention how corporations and governments rely on it for daily data and message transmission.

Maxatoria
The internet is like a road, what travels on it is not its problem as its just the method of getting from A to B

Yepp.

A road where an exact copy of it goes through the NSA. And is dissected. And analyzed. And then returned on it's merry way.

A to Xanadu and THEN to B.

And without said road, everything the average person is addicted to today would never have happened. This is the crux of my idea. The idea that this very thought was somehow imagined by some worm at the NSA.

Conspiracyskeptic
I see what's your saying but what's stopping anyone from not connecting of their digital devices to the internet? Because nothing says your HAVE to connect your devices to the internet.

For now in the future everything will require network connectivity. Ahh man ,I got to update my toaster my subscription expired.

interupt42

Conspiracyskeptic
I see what's your saying but what's stopping anyone from not connecting of their digital devices to the internet? Because nothing says your HAVE to connect your devices to the internet.

For now in the future everything will require network connectivity. Ahh man ,I got to update my toaster my subscription expired.

Toaster. Alarm system. Smart Meters. Your stove. Pretty soon it'll be your "personal pleasure" devices as well.

NullVoid
Do you know DARPA "envisioned" USB back in 1970s ? It's possible
Do you know GPS is military derived ? Yep, most technology starts out in the hands of military before being given to civilians
Do you know Internet is a military network with selected universities ? Yep, that is how email got its start
Wait, thats wrong, Al Gore "invented" internet. My bad.
Coming soon near you, mass broadcast direct to brain.
Wait, thats bluebeam isnt it ? Cousin of bluetooth.

All in all, its getting out of their hands, but thanks to them, we have these things now.

Most of this information and the information in the OP you learn in a standard Computer Science undergrad program. Just because the military invented the internet doesn't mean it was invented to control the masses. Again, technology tends to get invented for military applications first before it is given to civilians. This has been going on throughout this century. I see nothing overt behind it. SOP and all.