What if it's not really 2014?

What if at some point in the last 2013 years the historical record was mismanaged due to circumstance or manipulated by some humans?

I mean, 2000 years, that's a pretty long time, and if humans are managing something, there has to be a margin of error inherent, right? Plus or minus 50 years is about as bad as I think we'd do, if we were diligent.

And the victor writes the story. What if they didn't like the story? What if some time like 2012 comes along, and along with it a prophecy of some kind, and someone wanted it to be AN EVEN BIGGER SURPRISE?!

What if it's really like 1984 or something ironic like that?

reply to post by Mon1k3r


History is tricky and we often underestimate it's tricks. - Sartre quoting Lenin.

Richard Nixon hired 20-=year TV executive Frank Shakespeare to run the USIA during the 4 years that the Apollo program was sending missions to the "moon". Does your historical record include that?

Mon1k3r

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edit on 10-1-2014 by Mon1k3r because: derp factor title

You just made an example of editing history by editing your OP! That is exactly the same way the PTB control history. You're doing good! Keep up!

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Technically, we could also say, it is year 4540000000, which is considered Earth´s age. Yet there still exists an error margin of 1%, roughly 50 million years.

2014 is just reference value. At a point (supposed Christ´s birth) people just started counting from 0. Some nations started earlier, some later. For example, in China, the year is 4711,4710 or 4650.

To be honest, I could not care much what is the number of the year in the calendar. It does not matter, I know a year is gone by and new one begins, when I will become one year older.

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Yeah I think I almost got it figured out! Imona rule da woild!!!

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But what if the real 2012 isn't for another 30 years? So sneaky!

What if were gradually being adjusted with all the daylight savings time switches, leap years and leap seconds ?

A leap second is a one-second adjustment that is occasionally applied to Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) in order to keep its time of day close to the mean solar time. Without such a correction, time reckoned by Earth rotation drifts away from atomic time because of irregularities in the Earth's rate of rotation. Since this system of correction was implemented in 1972, 25 such leap seconds have been inserted. The most recent one happened on June 30, 2012 at 23:59:60 UTC.[1]

Mon1k3r
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But what if the real 2012 isn't for another 30 years? So sneaky!

he real 2012 is pretty arbitrary.

i think that's what s/he was getting at.

Live in the now. Everything else is a lie, apart from palaeontology, lol, wink wink.

Mon1k3r
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But what if the real 2012 isn't for another 30 years? So sneaky!

So are you suggesting the time or date is being manipulated to fool us into thinking 2012 went by uneventful?
That didn't give them very much time to adjust dates, since the 2012 doom didn't start being talked about until around 2009. This gave them about three years to trick you
We don't need calendars to indicate a year has passed. We know which seasons we're in, and there's only four or one full rotation around the Sun.

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The real 2012 was about 4.5 billion years ago, that was my point.

violet

We don't need calendars to indicate a year has passed. We know which seasons we're in, and there's only four or one full rotation around the Sun.

But if around 1100 AD, someone messed with the written record, by which we go, then we wouldn't know that because you and I weren't around 900 years ago to witness the Earth revolve around the sun.

Cabin
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The real 2012 was about 4.5 billion years ago, that was my point.

Right, I got that. Good one.

But the fake time that we use, our calendar system and our written record of history is what I'm getting at. I just think it's scary, with all the malfeasance, lies, and manipulations in this world, I don't think it would be hard to imagine someone changing history, events... even the timeline itself.

It's already known that the information about what happened in the past is varied due to different testimony of accounts, subjectivity, prejudice. Who knows what's actually a correct account anymore?

Theres a conspiracy about this actually.

Be sure to wear your tinfoil

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Oh hell, there I go thinking I had an original thought again.

Good find, man!

Mon1k3r
What if at some point in the last 2013 years the historical record was mismanaged due to circumstance or manipulated by some humans?

I mean, 2000 years, that's a pretty long time, and if humans are managing something, there has to be a margin of error inherent, right? Plus or minus 50 years is about as bad as I think we'd do, if we were diligent.

And the victor writes the story. What if they didn't like the story? What if some time like 2012 comes along, and along with it a prophecy of some kind, and someone wanted it to be AN EVEN BIGGER SURPRISE?!

What if it's really like 1984 or something ironic like that?

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edit on 10-1-2014 by Mon1k3r because: derp factor title

Wow, where did you get 50 year margin from....that is your pluck it out of the air guess? How would the entire world of been fooled? So diligent people would make a 50 year error? How diligent is that?

violet

Mon1k3r
reply to post by Cabin

 

But what if the real 2012 isn't for another 30 years? So sneaky!

So are you suggesting the time or date is being manipulated to fool us into thinking 2012 went by uneventful?
That didn't give them very much time to adjust dates, since the 2012 doom didn't start being talked about until around 2009. This gave them about three years to trick you
We don't need calendars to indicate a year has passed. We know which seasons we're in, and there's only four or one full rotation around the Sun.

hahahahahahaha, lies

the 2012 myth was AT LEAST 50years old, so get your facts right you probably first heard of it in 2009.

Mon1k3r
What if some time like 2012 comes along, and along with it a prophecy of some kind,

People are always just making crap up about a certain year is going to be TEOCAWKI, none of them have ever been right. It is best to just laugh at them.

projectbane

Wow, where did you get 50 year margin from....that is your pluck it out of the air guess? How would the entire world of been fooled? So diligent people would make a 50 year error? How diligent is that?

Yeah, I just plucked that number out of the air. I can't spend a couple of hours thinking about all the factors that may or may not contribute to a more likely or realistic set of circumstances and scenarios that could bring me to a conclusion that more accurately represents the truth.

And right, we're not really diligent at all, are we? We've all pretty much allowed our constitution to dissolve and our rights with it. And sometimes we don't have a choice to be diligent. During the dark ages, the recorded timeline from which western history extends, most of the people didn't even know what year it was. They couldn't read, they were told what the truth was. And often, when they did not accept the official version of the truth, bad things happened to them. Remember the inquisition?

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Well I do like the post, interesting thought on what could shape our history by a few individuals by 'starting' or changing a timeline.

Wiki...

I found on wiki a whole list of calendars which when you look at the now obsolete ones they are nearly all based on what phisically happens during a year for that culture (From what I read so far) So having a year counting system helps spot a pattern.

And when you think about it these people ARE changing our lives to an extent........... Feb 14th coming soon..... Valentines day for instance because of commercial emphasis we tend to find/prosper love with another person...... this day very likely leeds to someone planned or not to have children and so forth your whole life changes. Actually thinking of it......every event that is marked on a calender does change our lives without us having much choise... well on St Patricks day I know im pretty worse for ware following day.

boncho
Theres a conspiracy about this actually.

Be sure to wear your tinfoil

My tinfoil hat comes with straps!

/adjusts hat.

Well done Boncho,
beat me to it. Yes the missing centuries are one of my favored conspiracy theories.

• There is a gap in written material during the middle ages (formerly called the "Dark Ages")
• Saint Amand Arno's "De Curso Stellarum" ad 821 are very obviously copies of 4th-6th century originals
• A standard calendar across Europe didn't start till after liberation from Arab invasion

In the history of calendrics the beginning of standardized calendars started 1179 ad and spread
country by country. Some countries not joining in till the 18th century.

1180 in Catalonia
1350 in Aragon
1383 in Castile
1422 in Portugal

Reconciling all the independent calendars from all the different countries
makes it very likely, in my mind, that mistakes were made.


The Missing period,
in my estimation is 371 years +/- 37.1 years
and covers 642 - 1014

I don't discuss it much, as an overwhelming lack of evidence,
is not evidence.


Mike Grouchy