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Parking Violation Turns Into Police Assault Caught on Video – Lawsuit
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reply to post by RickyD
I agree we need to ban together, but you can see why other neighbors did not come out to help.
There were a dozen cop cars and probably even more cops. Maybe the cops were planning on making lots of arrests? Thankfully there was a person with a good view filming the cop caused mayhem. While they were all running into the house the one cop was still beating up the person on the ground, who I thought was passed out because he was not moving.
I agree we need to ban together, but you can see why other neighbors did not come out to help.
There were a dozen cop cars and probably even more cops. Maybe the cops were planning on making lots of arrests? Thankfully there was a person with a good view filming the cop caused mayhem. While they were all running into the house the one cop was still beating up the person on the ground, who I thought was passed out because he was not moving.
Merlynn
reply to post by RickyD
While they were all running into the house the one cop was still beating up the person on the ground, who I thought was passed out because he was not moving.
At the point where the police enter the house, the guy on the ground is being restrained by two cops, one is about to follow the others into the house, but pauses before checking that the second officer has the guy in hand and then resumes into the home.
Can't see the details of most of the struggle, but that portion is pretty clear. Then again, I can't expect much from a website that sees alien technology in every Mars rock, cloud and hieroglyph.
edit on 1/9/2014 by eNumbra because: (no reason given)
reply to post by iRoyalty
Although this is an injustice and I am glad Johnson is suing and the result will be changing the system, lawsuits have a detrimental effect on society. The problem with suits against the government, is that the government through negligence and inaction are causing themselves to be sued. This of course results in taxpayers paying the bill for the government which is not fair. The people in government who enact these policies, should be removed and sued personally.
Cheers - Dave
Although this is an injustice and I am glad Johnson is suing and the result will be changing the system, lawsuits have a detrimental effect on society. The problem with suits against the government, is that the government through negligence and inaction are causing themselves to be sued. This of course results in taxpayers paying the bill for the government which is not fair. The people in government who enact these policies, should be removed and sued personally.
Cheers - Dave
reply to post by Merlynn
When it was first going down there was not 12 cop cars...which is how many I counted just on the left hand side of the block...usually that's 1 cop per car but some might have 2 so that's damn near a platoon sized force. Now in the beginning it appeared as if there was only 3-4...and if you got the drop that's decent odds considering how most times cops actually shoot someone they miss 3/4 or more of their shots. Honestly at this point I don't even view a person who does this type of thing as a cop...rather they are a violent predator...a criminal preying on the helpless. Who know's had I been there maybe I wouldn't have gone out armed to confront them...however if I didn't go out armed I would not go out. To confront an armed criminal in the streets is suicide with no gain.
This goes back to the point of the 2nd amendment and it's true purpose. If everyone who wanted to be armed was able to legally be armed with whatever guns they wish cops would not abuse us like this for fear of a bullet in the head...right on the spot no questions asked. Criminals would fear the same...not to mention tyrants!
When it was first going down there was not 12 cop cars...which is how many I counted just on the left hand side of the block...usually that's 1 cop per car but some might have 2 so that's damn near a platoon sized force. Now in the beginning it appeared as if there was only 3-4...and if you got the drop that's decent odds considering how most times cops actually shoot someone they miss 3/4 or more of their shots. Honestly at this point I don't even view a person who does this type of thing as a cop...rather they are a violent predator...a criminal preying on the helpless. Who know's had I been there maybe I wouldn't have gone out armed to confront them...however if I didn't go out armed I would not go out. To confront an armed criminal in the streets is suicide with no gain.
This goes back to the point of the 2nd amendment and it's true purpose. If everyone who wanted to be armed was able to legally be armed with whatever guns they wish cops would not abuse us like this for fear of a bullet in the head...right on the spot no questions asked. Criminals would fear the same...not to mention tyrants!
MadHatter364
reply to post by iRoyalty
Well at least they didn't shoot the guy's dogs...
But seriously, do yourselves a favor and put ALL of the officers in your country in an empty stadium, and then set it on fire... You'll be safer that way...
In many places a statement like this can land you in jail!! It seems to me that you are trying to incite violence against fellow people (cops in this case). I think that could also amount to conspiracy to commit an act of terror (terrorism under the Anti-terrorism laws in the US and UK).
Just saying, freedom of speech is not what it used to be.
reply to post by iRoyalty
I feel so angry and I don't live in the US, if I had been living in that community I would have taken to the streets as well. If that had happened here in the UK , there would have been riots on the streets in several cities. Thank god the UK police are not this bad, but I'm sure given time it will be the same.
Perhaps the fact the US prison service is a commercial entity means that not only do your Judges need to hit a 90% prison population, the police also have to make sure they hit their targets even if that includes orgastrating an arrest.
What has happened to the land of the free? The USA used to be a place that everyone wanted to live. Such a shame this has happened to our American Cousins.
I feel so angry and I don't live in the US, if I had been living in that community I would have taken to the streets as well. If that had happened here in the UK , there would have been riots on the streets in several cities. Thank god the UK police are not this bad, but I'm sure given time it will be the same.
Perhaps the fact the US prison service is a commercial entity means that not only do your Judges need to hit a 90% prison population, the police also have to make sure they hit their targets even if that includes orgastrating an arrest.
What has happened to the land of the free? The USA used to be a place that everyone wanted to live. Such a shame this has happened to our American Cousins.
Having reviewed the video tape and read the article, there are a few things that can be stated:
It is true that being a police officer is a very stressful job; law enforcement is far more stressful and dangerous as it stands. It is not a job that is thankful; rather it is thankless, with many stresses and aggravations that go along with the job. And there are both good and bad cops out there.
Normally I am all for giving the police the benefit of the doubt in all aspects of their job, including when reviewing the video tape, looking at it as a disinterested party with no bias, letting the evidence presented speak for itself. In this case, I would say that the person who was apprehended and put on the ground, then subsequently beat, I can only say that is a clear cut case of police brutality and the officers involved terminated. It is not easy being an officer, and in some communities, the police are looked on with distrust and even fear, and from what is being shown, this is one of those cases. The officers, went too far, and hopefully it will be a jury that will punish the law enforcement and the city and state for permitting such.
With all of the accusations of foul play on the part of the cops, more and more I am under the belief that all law enforcement should undergo retraining, and that there be changes made, along with a few additional courses that should be taught. The first is that it should be that all officers should undergo the brown/blue eye experiment, and the Standford prison experiment. That way it would serve as a reminder that perhaps being drunk on power is not a good thing and to give them a taste of how it feels to be in the other persons shoes. The other changes I would make is that the entire internal affairs division no longer be a part of the police departments, but a separate force, where anyone can go without fear, to make complaints, that the concept of the brothers in blue, no longer apply, where it is a panel made up of people, from all walks of life that review and look at all evidence and make the determination if an officer is terminated or remains on the job. The police would not be allowed to be in said chambers at that time frame, nor have access to those persons.
It is true that being a police officer is a very stressful job; law enforcement is far more stressful and dangerous as it stands. It is not a job that is thankful; rather it is thankless, with many stresses and aggravations that go along with the job. And there are both good and bad cops out there.
Normally I am all for giving the police the benefit of the doubt in all aspects of their job, including when reviewing the video tape, looking at it as a disinterested party with no bias, letting the evidence presented speak for itself. In this case, I would say that the person who was apprehended and put on the ground, then subsequently beat, I can only say that is a clear cut case of police brutality and the officers involved terminated. It is not easy being an officer, and in some communities, the police are looked on with distrust and even fear, and from what is being shown, this is one of those cases. The officers, went too far, and hopefully it will be a jury that will punish the law enforcement and the city and state for permitting such.
With all of the accusations of foul play on the part of the cops, more and more I am under the belief that all law enforcement should undergo retraining, and that there be changes made, along with a few additional courses that should be taught. The first is that it should be that all officers should undergo the brown/blue eye experiment, and the Standford prison experiment. That way it would serve as a reminder that perhaps being drunk on power is not a good thing and to give them a taste of how it feels to be in the other persons shoes. The other changes I would make is that the entire internal affairs division no longer be a part of the police departments, but a separate force, where anyone can go without fear, to make complaints, that the concept of the brothers in blue, no longer apply, where it is a panel made up of people, from all walks of life that review and look at all evidence and make the determination if an officer is terminated or remains on the job. The police would not be allowed to be in said chambers at that time frame, nor have access to those persons.
reply to post by projectbane
I do NOT care, I'm just saying it for what it is.
Would I personally set thousands of cops on fire? Hell no, I'm no Hitler.
HOWEVER, I really think someone's got to put an end to this super-cop madness that's raging in the U.S.
And of course the best way to do it would not be by burning them all, but through HEAVY screening of the applicants for the job (i.e. psychological tests, personality tests, top notch law knowledge, classes on how to properly interact with scared/armed/nervous citizens etc...).
In many places a statement like this can land you in jail!!
I do NOT care, I'm just saying it for what it is.
Would I personally set thousands of cops on fire? Hell no, I'm no Hitler.
HOWEVER, I really think someone's got to put an end to this super-cop madness that's raging in the U.S.
And of course the best way to do it would not be by burning them all, but through HEAVY screening of the applicants for the job (i.e. psychological tests, personality tests, top notch law knowledge, classes on how to properly interact with scared/armed/nervous citizens etc...).
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The other changes I would make is that the entire internal affairs division no longer be a part of the police departments, but a separate force, where anyone can go without fear, to make complaints, that the concept of the brothers in blue, no longer apply, where it is a panel made up of people, from all walks of life that review and look at all evidence and make the determination if an officer is terminated or remains on the job. The police would not be allowed to be in said chambers at that time frame, nor have access to those persons.
What a great idea, I think we have something similar in the UK with the Police Complaints Authority.
Bone75
Good Lord! How many cops does it take to arrest 2 guys? I could even make out the sound of a helicopter. The guy being arrested was already being handcuffed when he was thrown to the ground. You mean to tell me the guy who was yelling "abuse" and made it clear that he wasn't going to go near one of those cops was reason enough to call in 20 more cops and a helicopter?
By the way, what was wrong with where this guy was parked? It looks like he was parked on the right side of the road to me, unless it was a one-way street. And if it was a one-way street then, then I see about 10 cop cars that are guilty of the same damn thing. That crap wouldn't fly in my neighborhood. A war would've started that day.
Agreed about the # of cops! It was like Christmas for thugs that day when they all were tied up with him, you could've stolen city hall while they were all there.
Derek
reply to post by iRoyalty
I am hoping this is the same clip that ran months ago, here at ATS. There are so many examples of this I can't keep them all straight.
Obama kept his promise.
Change.
Or do we hang this on Bush?
Who would have guessed...that change is a one way street?
Just like 'luck', at a casino. It really only goes one way.
I wonder who is behind all this?
# 118
I am hoping this is the same clip that ran months ago, here at ATS. There are so many examples of this I can't keep them all straight.
Obama kept his promise.
Change.
Or do we hang this on Bush?
Who would have guessed...that change is a one way street?
Just like 'luck', at a casino. It really only goes one way.
I wonder who is behind all this?
# 118
edit on 9-1-2014 by TheWhiteKnight because: (no reason given)
Anytime anything like this happens no matter what the results the LEA's find that the LEO's acted properly within department policy guidlines.
That tells us either they have a policy to overlook misbehaving LEO's or the brutal behavior is part of the policy and training in that LEA. Seems to me that the policies have been subverted by the LE unions which has become a nationwide legion of criminal gangsters that believe they are exempt from human moralities.
Truth is the whole system is greedy and corrupt. As we see from the latest NJ governors debacle where the government workers conspire to create traffic jams as if it were their kingdom to rule as the please. Here we see government workers beat a man for what appears to be minor nonsense that likely could of been dealt with in a non violent manner.
I think most of us just try to avoid these situations which I admit is easier to do if your are not poor or a minority.
That tells us either they have a policy to overlook misbehaving LEO's or the brutal behavior is part of the policy and training in that LEA. Seems to me that the policies have been subverted by the LE unions which has become a nationwide legion of criminal gangsters that believe they are exempt from human moralities.
Truth is the whole system is greedy and corrupt. As we see from the latest NJ governors debacle where the government workers conspire to create traffic jams as if it were their kingdom to rule as the please. Here we see government workers beat a man for what appears to be minor nonsense that likely could of been dealt with in a non violent manner.
I think most of us just try to avoid these situations which I admit is easier to do if your are not poor or a minority.
reply to post by iRoyalty
WOW! They needed 11 police cars for 2 guys? For every one good cop shown on here....there are uncountable bad ones surfacing. Looks like there is a problem in America. I know one thing. Too much of a good thing becomes a bad thing...and too much of a bad thing becomes worse. I am guessing that the American people wont stand for this much longer. Its clear that the good cops are being weeded out and replaced (or outsourced) by people that hate Americans. You wouldn't even notice them because America is full of cultural heritage from all nations. I can make an educated guess though...that most cops today have not lived in America very long and were brought in to fulfil the interests of the elites in breaking America to it's knees because America is the last major rebel that they have to worry about. Break America, remove constitution, get people terrified of authority insomuch as to not even question them (case in point)...the New World Order will fall into place faster than a meteor can hit the earth. They are winning too.
WOW! They needed 11 police cars for 2 guys? For every one good cop shown on here....there are uncountable bad ones surfacing. Looks like there is a problem in America. I know one thing. Too much of a good thing becomes a bad thing...and too much of a bad thing becomes worse. I am guessing that the American people wont stand for this much longer. Its clear that the good cops are being weeded out and replaced (or outsourced) by people that hate Americans. You wouldn't even notice them because America is full of cultural heritage from all nations. I can make an educated guess though...that most cops today have not lived in America very long and were brought in to fulfil the interests of the elites in breaking America to it's knees because America is the last major rebel that they have to worry about. Break America, remove constitution, get people terrified of authority insomuch as to not even question them (case in point)...the New World Order will fall into place faster than a meteor can hit the earth. They are winning too.
reply to post by iRoyalty
The only happy ending possible is the police personally paying full restitution to the victims of their crimes. A happy ending in today's society is a diamond in the rough. I don't think it will happen in this case.
Rather, the taxpayers will be punished for the actions of the city. The city will settle out of court for $1 million or some high sum. The city will get other people's money to pay the victims, which only serves to resolve on injustice by creating another injustice. The actual criminals should have to pay for this, not the taxpayers of the city.
The only happy ending possible is the police personally paying full restitution to the victims of their crimes. A happy ending in today's society is a diamond in the rough. I don't think it will happen in this case.
Rather, the taxpayers will be punished for the actions of the city. The city will settle out of court for $1 million or some high sum. The city will get other people's money to pay the victims, which only serves to resolve on injustice by creating another injustice. The actual criminals should have to pay for this, not the taxpayers of the city.
reply to post by iRoyalty
Any monetary settlement given to the victims for the abuse of the officers should come directly from the police pension fund. Not the township operating budget, not the police budget, not insurance( although the insurance company could pay the claim and then sue the police department. When officers see their future pension benefits reduced due to the actions of a wannabe Nazi or idiot who can't do his job, they'll weed out the problem officers and not cover for them.
One thought crossed my mind. These officers were quick to use strong arm tactics and play stormtrooper when they outnumbered their targets, but had they faced a large number of onlookers, some potentially armed( God Bless the 2nd Amendment and FU to anyone who demands gun control) they'd have taken a far more cautious and professional approach.
Any monetary settlement given to the victims for the abuse of the officers should come directly from the police pension fund. Not the township operating budget, not the police budget, not insurance( although the insurance company could pay the claim and then sue the police department. When officers see their future pension benefits reduced due to the actions of a wannabe Nazi or idiot who can't do his job, they'll weed out the problem officers and not cover for them.
One thought crossed my mind. These officers were quick to use strong arm tactics and play stormtrooper when they outnumbered their targets, but had they faced a large number of onlookers, some potentially armed( God Bless the 2nd Amendment and FU to anyone who demands gun control) they'd have taken a far more cautious and professional approach.
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All charges against the Johnson brothers were dropped. The family is seeking compensation for medical expenses and property damage, among other claims. The lawsuit alleges that the city removed scrap metal from a truck that was impounded after the arrests and did not return it to the family. It also notes that the family had to pay $300 to retrieve its dogs from the Nebraska Humane Society, where they were taken after the incident. The Johnsons also are asking for punitive damages against four officers and for Omaha police officers to receive additional training about the rights of people who film police activities.
Kangaruex4Ewe
It may not have been as bad back in the day, simply because people were not as evil/mean as they are today. We can go all day on what cause/contributes to that, but I think it is more about that than quotas.
Would you beat innocent folks down to meet a quota? Would the people you associate yourself with do it? I wouldn't and most people I know wouldn't do it either. It is something wrong with people who do things like this, and I believe people like this would (and do) do it for free if they could.
I am sure quotas being met contributes to the amount of people they come into contact with, so in a way it may cut down on it. However, this behavior goes deeper than just meeting numbers IMO.
It's disgusting regardless and I wish there was a way to weed these folks out better than just waiting for a victim to be created.
That's the weird part, there's plenty of ways to weed them out before they're even hired.
psychological exams have gotten pretty advanced, and there's no cheating those things either.
So why are they hiring so many ''power trippers''?
It's true that people were generally more compassionate back in the day, but we haven't become that much more evil, not as far as i can tell.. although when talking about police it becomes a whole different story.
I'm not saying they're all like this, but from personal experience it seems like a lot of them have some mental issues.
I always act polite around police officers, and still i have gotten several fines now doing literally nothing that breaks the law.. just because i was standing at the wrong place or asked too many questions.
Each time i just send an objecting letter and i am free of charge.. They even called me to court once.. and as i got there, the judge was dumbfounded and told me i could go home after 10 seconds.
So yeah the quota definitely made matters worse, although that doesn't explain their behavior.
Like i said i always keep my calm and talk politely, but sometimes that is not an easy thing to do, not just because they are handing me fines for no reason.. but mostly because a lot of them come over extremely passive aggressive, almost like they want me to do something wrong.
This was NOT always like this.. here in the netherlands i have noticed them change in a relatively short amount of time from ''our best friends'' to ''don't even get near them''.
What gives?
Call me a nut but it seems like this is not random.
And this suggests the same: Police rejecting to recruit people with high IQ's
reply to post by Dutchowl
Interesting idea and a likely deterrent to this kind of behaviour, or at least to encourage disclosing it to brass or the public. Since deterrents do not work that well. (Based on how many "deterrents" that currently exist)
Still, a lot of the causes of this kind of thing boils down to government policies, especially local governments. Where they create ghettos and don't look to get people out of poverty. (I presume that isn't a nice neighbourhood judging by the 7 car response.??)
In any case, create an area of poverty with no opportunity and then you need police to keep them in check. They will likely have to be heavy handed in their approach depending on how bad it is.
Any monetary settlement given to the victims for the abuse of the officers should come directly from the police pension fund. Not the township operating budget, not the police budget, not insurance( although the insurance company could pay the claim and then sue the police department.
Interesting idea and a likely deterrent to this kind of behaviour, or at least to encourage disclosing it to brass or the public. Since deterrents do not work that well. (Based on how many "deterrents" that currently exist)
Still, a lot of the causes of this kind of thing boils down to government policies, especially local governments. Where they create ghettos and don't look to get people out of poverty. (I presume that isn't a nice neighbourhood judging by the 7 car response.??)
In any case, create an area of poverty with no opportunity and then you need police to keep them in check. They will likely have to be heavy handed in their approach depending on how bad it is.
edit on 9-1-2014 by boncho because: (no reason given)
Why is the local DA not pursuing felony destruction of evidence and conspiracy to destroy evidence charges against the cops? Along with breaking and
entering, strongarm theft, battery, constructive trespass and a laundry list of other charges you could levy against the cops?
These guys don't need to be just fired, they need to be in the state slam for 10-20 years, each.
These guys don't need to be just fired, they need to be in the state slam for 10-20 years, each.
edit on 9-1-2014 by Bedlam because: (no
reason given)
iRoyalty
reply to post by Kangaruex4Ewe
I feel like the problems may have not been so bad back in the day for one reason, quotas.
Police have a target to reach on how many arrests they make a week, been a slow week? Everyone being a good citizen? This is why police make up violations and use fear to make sure they do not speak out.
Get rid of quotas in healthcare and policing, I guarantee things would lighten up, even if it's just a little.
There's more to it than quotas, in years past we didn't have millions of SWAT teams
Police were taught to enforce the laws and be beacons of safety in the community not threat neutralization.
Police weren't militarized. With the military hardware and mindset, streets turn into battlefields and the civilian populace becomes enemy combatants.
I am genuinely confused as to why on earth so many officers were called to the scene & how none of them managed to diffuse the situation, only escalate it.
Groupthink. It's very common, and very few people go against it.
mikeone718
reply to post by iRoyalty
Where's the rest of the video however? It's pretty convenient to just skip to the part where he gets put down - was he being hostile toward police before the fact?
Does it matter? The cops had him on the hood of a vehicle in a disarmed position. He was not a threat. It's not the job of cops to rough you up for being mouthy, and it's not their job to deliver extra punishment if you're being difficult. Their job is to keep you under control so that you don't run away, and don't create a dangerous situation. That was accomplished, afterwards the cops assaulted him because they wanted to. Provoked or not we don't know and it doesn't matter because the guy wasn't in a threatening position, the cops decided to attack him. They should be charged with assault, and it should come with the added penalty of abusing authority since they never would have had him in that position in the first place without their badge.
Did you see where they were again beating him later in the video? Nothing justifies that.
RickyD
reply to post by Merlynn
This goes back to the point of the 2nd amendment and it's true purpose. If everyone who wanted to be armed was able to legally be armed with whatever guns they wish cops would not abuse us like this for fear of a bullet in the head...right on the spot no questions asked. Criminals would fear the same...not to mention tyrants!
If you use your weapon to stand up to enemy soldiers like this, they will shoot back. You will not be restrained. You will be killed, as will everyone in your home. The second amendment will not protect you from them, unless you're willing to die.
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