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Bapak was a key player in the 1965 CIA-engineered coup against President Sukarno in Indonesia. Subud has also been accused of being yet another CIA mind-control religious operation. The Communist Party of Indonesia (PKI) and Sukarno's Foreign Minister, Dr. Subandrio, as well as Ceylon's assassinated Prime Minister, Solomon Bandaranaike, accused Subud of being a CIA front. The sect continues to maintain a religious compound in Front Royal, Virginia, about an hour's drive from CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia.
www.waynemadsenreport.com...
WMR has obtained a declassified CIA memorandum prepared by the CIA's Asia Division of the Office of East Asia Analysis, dated February 15, 1985 and titled "Indoensia's Suharto: Losing the Magic?" that states that none other than Indonesia's CIA-installed dictator, General Suharto, was an adherent of the Javanese mystical cult, also known as "Javanism." Ann Soetoro's work for the World Bank, Ford Foundation, U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), Development Alterbative, Inc. -- a suspected CIA front -- and Indonesian banks, helped to prop up the Suharto dictatorship. Ms. Soetoro spoke fluent Indonesian, as well as Javanese.
The CIA memo states that Java's traditional mysticism was rife, not only among peasants, but "also educated businessmen, academics, military officers, and high level government officials -- including cabinet members." In addition, the memo states that "mysticism also plays an integral role in the perceptions and decision making among Indonesia's predominantly nominal Muslims." The CIA relied on Subud cultists, as well as Muslims, to gain popular support for its coup against Sukarno, a leftist nationalist, and the officially atheistic PKI.
Sujono, according to Richard Lloyd Parry's book, In the Time of Madness: Indonesia on the Edge of Chaos, once snuck some sand from a holy site in Java and managed to sprinkle it on the White House carpet to guarantee that the United States would support Suharto and his "New Order" regime. Sujono later claimed the magic sand worked. Javanim's holiest deity is a fat, farting dwarf called Semar who is a sort of court jester for more worldy knights and nobles.
The CIA memo states, "Typical of Soeharto's use of mystical symbols was his choice of 11 March 1966 for the transfer of power from Sukarno to himself and the use of the Indonesian acronym (Supersemar) for the date. In a clear reference to Javanese mythology, Soeharto sought to draw a parallel between the victory of the bumbling dwarf, Semar, over his more worldly superiors and Soeharto's own victory over the more flamboyant Sukarno."
It also is a delicious fact that our Subud sister, Ms Fuddy, just was appointed to her post in the Health Dept in Hawaii in time to be involved in the documentation of fact that Obama was born there."
xuenchen
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It also is a delicious fact that our Subud sister, Ms Fuddy, just was appointed to her post in the Health Dept in Hawaii in time to be involved in the documentation of fact that Obama was born there."
Perfect Timing.
Investigating.
Fresh1
On January 20, 2011 Abercrombie announces he cannot find the birth certificate
Now, six days later, Evans is claiming that he misspoke. Evans told FoxNews.com on Wednesday he was remorseful and embarrassed about the incident. “I was on 34 radio stations that morning….instead of saying ‘the hospital said there’s no birth certificate’ I misspoke and said Neil said that,” said Evans. Then he made the exact opposite claim. “Only this I can you tell you is 100 per cent fact: that Neil never told me there was no birth certificate,” Evans said. “I never talked to him.” In fact — Evans is saying that he hasn’t spoken to Abercrombie since he’s been governor.
1. If it was proven beyond a doubt that the certificate was forged, would that make all his executive decisions null and void?
2. And what about laws enacted with Congresses approval that he approved, would they become null and void as well?
3. But since he was born to a American citizen, wouldn’t he like Ted Cruz; be technically a dual citizen and all he would have to do is renounce his Indonesian citizenship?
TDawgRex
I’m not really a birther myself, but I do have a couple questions.
1. If it was proven beyond a doubt that the certificate was forged, would that make all his executive decisions null and void?
2. And what about laws enacted with Congresses approval that he approved, would they become null and void as well?
3. But since he was born to a American citizen, wouldn’t he like Ted Cruz; be technically a dual citizen and all he would have to do is renounce his Indonesian citizenship?
TDawgRex
Source please.
As everything I have read regarding our Constitution says otherwise. And that is over five decades of reading.
Article Two, Section 1 of the United States Constitution sets forth the eligibility requirements for serving as President of the United States: No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
TDawgRex
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You'll have to forgive me (or not), as I thought "natural born citizen" equated to being a US citizen born on US soil.
hellobruce
TDawgRex
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You'll have to forgive me (or not), as I thought "natural born citizen" equated to being a US citizen born on US soil.
Yes, just like Obama was!