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theabsolutetruth
reply to post by TheDualityExperience
There are plenty of people that aren't of any ''victim mentality'' that have been victimised.
I lead a non chaotic lifestyle and I am very logical.
That hasn't prevented me meeting unscrupulous people in the past. I have moved and travelled a lot, spent more than 20 years in occupations dealing with the general public and in charge of lots of people from all areas of life, keyworking people from all areas of life, as well as having a social life involved with art and music, again meeting lots of people from all walks of life. A lot of the people I have worked with, employed, were customers of the businesses I ran, or met, had various issues. The statistic probability of meeting unstable personalities and the plethora of human behavioral and psychological ails increases the more people an individual meets. Simple math.
I am not the drama / attention seeking type, in fact the opposite.
Fascinating story. You will have a marvelous time trying to understand me
I have a lot of experience studying religions and philosophy as well as psychology and other areas of life, this also might have facilitated meeting a lot of mixed individuals with their own beliefs.
Some people have led boring office lives with little contact outside of their family, friends and colleagues for all or most of their lives, a lot of those people have ordinary lives and average life experiences.
Some of us are explorers, pioneers of learning truth, meeting more people and seeing more of the world and it's foibles than others, and in doing so, have encountered more extraordinary people and events. Some of them I would rather not have met at all, that includes employing mafia bitch waitresses, getting involved in businesses where organised crime had been involved in them before, having a few psychopathic boyfriends, knowing certain freemasons that don't like it when they don't get the things they want from people, working in charities with the good intention of helping others and meeting characters no sane person would ever want to meet, being employed in vocations that involved helping those that didn't deserve helping. I have seen things you wouldn't want to know about let alone see.
I have vast life experience.
Those on ATS that are judgmental of others sans facts should keep their uninformed judgments to themselves.
Enough said.
theabsolutetruth
reply to post by TheDualityExperience
Just to be clear, my reply to you was directed at your comment on a ''victim mentality'' that another poster had accused me of, it wasn't directed at you nor an attempt at ''understanding you'' or for you ''understanding me''.edit on 17-1-2014 by theabsolutetruth because: (no reason given)
"When you look at the dark side, careful you must be...for the dark side looks back" - Yoda
misschareesee2
reply to post by TheDualityExperience
"When you look at the dark side, careful you must be...for the dark side looks back" - Yoda
Reminds me of when remote viewer Ed Dames said on coasttocoast, that when you remote view something like Lucifer, (he/it) was staring back.
I like the Anne Rice Vampire saga (rule) of the Talamasca: peer into darkness but be not of it.edit on 17-1-2014 by misschareesee2 because: spellx
AliceBleachWhite
Further not too long ago, there was someone on ATS claiming to be a physical Vampire, denying renfield's syndrome, that started a thread query about Vampire Hunters.
A search might find that thread.
TheDualityExperience
Just to be clear, my reply to you was directed at your comment on a ''victim mentality'' that another poster had accused me of, it wasn't directed at you nor an attempt at ''understanding you'' or for you ''understanding me''.edit on 17-1-2014 by theabsolutetruth because: (no reason given)
No harm done.
For some reason I want to share a few quotes with you.
"If you go to Mars, Mars will come to you" - unknown author
"When you look at the dark side, careful you must be...for the dark side looks back" - Yoda
Obviously these are just metaphors but I think there is some true wisdom hidden in there somewhere.
theabsolutetruth
reply to post by TheDualityExperience
Just to be clear, my reply to you was directed at your comment on a ''victim mentality'' that another poster had accused me of, it wasn't directed at you nor an attempt at ''understanding you'' or for you ''understanding me''.edit on 17-1-2014 by theabsolutetruth because: (no reason given)
You do know there are people that deliberately victimise people, those of psychopathic, selfish tendencies who's egos far surpass their ethics. In fact the people that did it to me were even doing it to their employers, their parents and many others. Extreme narcissistic personalities.
At the time I was in my 20s and hedonism (possibly escapism on my part) was the connecting factor. I met them through a hedonistic party lifesyle, bands, musicians, artists, they suited my fast living lifestyle of the time and I bought their particular brand of charm, humour and fake love / friendship.
theabsolutetruth
I never sought the 'dark side' it was an unwelcome part of my charity work that some were 'dark characters'.
As a result of working in such environments, I became more and more cynical of humanity and would never work in any such environments again.
Generally, I am spiritually and by personality very LIGHT, people like being around me, I am fun, wise, intelligent and inspirational, (just saying, as an observation) but I have endured some very difficult things which is the darker aspect to my personality, I am also very principled and don't take **** from anyone, some people see that as scary but I see it as tackling the lies and corruption of society, which is a good thing.
I do urge people to avoid the dark side of life though.
Dr. Robert Hare claims there are 300,000 psychopaths in Canada, but that only a tiny fraction are violent offenders like Paul Bernardo and Clifford Olsen. Who are the rest? Take a look around
Chameleons and Predators
Psychopaths can be adept at imitating emotions that they believe will mitigate their punishment.
In general, psychopaths are glib and charming, and they use these attributes to manipulate others into trusting and believing in them. This may lead to people giving them money, voting them into office, or, possibly, being murdered by them. Because of their interpersonal prowess, most psychopaths can present themselves favorably on a first impression, and many function successfully in society.
Many of the attitudes and behaviors of psychopaths have a distinct predatory quality to them. Psychopaths see others as either competitive predators or prey. To understand how psychopaths achieve their goals, it is important to see them as classic predators. For instance, they surf the Internet looking for attractive persons to con or, even, murder and target retirees to charm them out of their life savings for a high-risk investment scam, later blaming them for being too trusting. Most psychopaths are skilled at camouflage through deception and manipulation, as well as stalking and locating areas where there is an endless supply of victims.5 The psychopath is an intraspecies predator, and peoples’ visceral reaction to them—“they made the hair stand up on my neck”—is an early warning system driven by fear of being prey to a predator.6
The psychopath’s egocentricity and need for power and control are the perfect ingredients for a lifetime of antisocial and criminal activity. The ease with which a psychopath can engage in violence holds significance for society and law enforcement. Often, psychopaths are shameless in their actions against others, whether it is murdering someone in a calculated, cold-blooded manner, manipulating law enforcement during an interview, or claiming remorse for actions, but blaming the victim for the crime. This particularly proves true in cases involving sexual offenders who are psychopathic.
If psychopaths commit a homicide, their killing likely will be planned and purposeful, not the result of a loss of emotional control; their motive more commonly will involve sadistic gratification.7 When faced with overwhelming evidence of their guilt, they frequently will claim they lost control or were in a rage when committing the act of violence. In fact, their violence often is emotionless, calculated, and completely controlled.8 If psychopaths commit a serious crime with another individual (almost always a nonpsychopath), they often will avoid culpability by using the other individual to take the blame for the offense. Evidence suggests that this particular strategy is even more evident in serious multiple-perpetrator offences committed by a psychopathic youth with a nonpsychopathic partner.
Myth Busting
Many misconceptions about psychopaths can lead to mistakes in investigations, interviews, and court proceedings. Psychopaths are both male and female, but more men are psychopaths than women. They represent all races, cultures, and socioeconomic backgrounds. Some are intelligent, while others possess average or below-average intelligence. They come from both single- and two-parent households and may themselves be married with children.
Psychopaths understand right from wrong. They know they are subject to society’s rules, but willingly disregard them to pursue their own interests. They also are not out of touch with reality. They rarely become psychotic unless they also have a separate mental illness or use powerful drugs, such as stimulants. These hallmarks of genuine mental illness might be proposed during a criminal defense, but they often are successfully challenged at trial. Although usually manageable, psychopathy is not curable.
Presence In Society
Many psychopaths have little difficulty joining the ranks of business, politics, law enforcement, government, and academia.10 They exist in all lines of work, from executive to blue-collar professions. However, psychopathy often is misread, misdiagnosed, minimized, or explained away by professionals whose jobs require regular interaction with psychopaths, namely in the mental health, judicial, and law enforcement communities. When these professionals encounter psychopathy in the course of their work, their reaction and response to the psychopath may be too little and too late. Their lack of information can lead to serious consequences, ranging from mishandling the strategy for interviews and interrogations to believing a psychopath’s complete fabrications as seemingly plausible explanations.
Victims
The reactions of psychopaths to the damage they inflict most likely will be cool indifference and a sense of power, pleasure, or smug satisfaction, rather than regret or concern. Most people closely associated with a psychopath may know something is wrong with that person, but have no idea as to the depth of the pathology. They frequently will blame themselves for all of the problems they have had with a psychopath, whether at work, in a relationship, or within a family. After interacting with psychopaths, most people are stunned by these individuals’ ruthlessness, callousness, and denial or minimization of the damage they have caused.
Conclusion
Psychopathy is not a diagnosis. About one-third of individuals in prison deemed “antisocial personality disordered,” the current official Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) diagnosis for the chronically antisocial, will meet the criteria for severe psychopathy. In DSM’s upcoming fifth edition, psychopathy will become one of five dimensions for describing a personality disorder, receiving the official diagnostic blessing of American psychiatry after approximately one-half century of research.
The ease with which a psychopath can engage in violence holds significance for society and law enforcement.
Understanding the minds of psychopaths and their personality and behavioral traits allows authorities to design strategies that more likely will work with them. Psychopaths’ manipulative nature can make it difficult for officers to obtain accurate information from them unless the law enforcement interviewer has been educated in specific strategies for questioning a psychopath. Professionals working in law enforcement, corrections, and other security-related professions must understand psychopathy and its implications.
Psychopathy has been described as the single most important clinical construct in the criminal justice system.20 More recently, it is considered “the most important forensic concept of the early 21st century.”21 Because of its relevance to law enforcement, corrections, the courts, and others working in related fields, the need to understand psychopathy cannot be overstated. This includes knowing how to identify psychopaths, the damage they can cause, and how to deal with them more effectively.
theabsolutetruth
reply to post by TheDualityExperience
Some of the psychopaths I have encountered weren't chasticed for their behaviour enough as children, or even as adults, in fact a few were actually conditioned into being violent against specific individuals by their psychopathic parent/s.
PCL-R Scores:
10 – 19 Mild psychopathic disturbance
20 – 29 Moderate psychopathic disturbance
30 – 40 Psychopath
Approximately 1% of the population is thought to be psychopathic, yet:
–Psychopaths commit more than 50% of all serious crimes –
-Half of all law enforcement murdered in the line of duty were killed by a psychopath
–Approximately 1 out of 5 persistent domestic abusers are thought to be psychopathic
–50% of all serial rapists are thought to be psychopathic.
Assessment Tool
Following on approximately 40 years of empirical research, the Psychopathy Checklist-Revised, or PCL-R, has emerged as an ideal tool for the assessment of this personality disorder. Specific scoring criteria rate each of 20 items on a 3-point scale (0, 1, 2) according to the extent that it applies to a given individual. This test allows for a maximum score of 40; a score of 30 designates someone as a psychopath. The average nonpsychopath will score around 5 or 6 on this test. White-collar or corporate psychopaths likely will score lower—in the middle 20s—and sexually deviant psychopaths will tend to score higher.11
Psychopaths understand right from wrong. They know they are subject to society’s rules, but willingly disregard them to pursue their own interests. They also are not out of touch with reality. They rarely become psychotic unless they also have a separate mental illness or use powerful drugs, such as stimulants. These hallmarks of genuine mental illness might be proposed during a criminal defense, but they often are successfully challenged at trial. Although usually manageable, psychopathy is not curable.
Adding to the bleak picture of the treatment of women in India, the Indian government released its national crime statistics last week finding that 8,233 women were killed in the country last year due to disputes over dowry payments. That’s equivalent to almost one death every hour. The conviction rate for such crimes was 32 percent.
Only a few studies have examined hormones in psychopathy, and results have been mixed. It has been suggested that because hormone systems are highly interconnected, it may be important to examine multiple systems simultaneously to gain a clearer picture of how hormones work together to predispose for a certain construct. In the present study, we attempt to clarify the role of the hormones cortisol and testosterone in psychopathy by examining both hormones in a community sample of 178 adults demonstrating a wide range of psychopathy scores. Results showed that psychopathy scores were associated with an increased ratio of testosterone (baseline) to cortisol responsivity to a stressor. Psychopathy was not associated with either of these measures independently or with baseline cortisol levels. These findings suggest that these highly interconnected hormone systems may work in concert to predispose to psychopathy.