The JFK Assassination---The Roles of Masons and Royalists---50 years is long enough

reply to post by MagnumOpus


Well Steve, I hope you have a super day. Now get back to that thriving electrical business of yours!
I hear it "cuts both ways". Bwahahahahahahahahaha!

I have no opinion on the Masons...

However, when you have an Organization that prides itself on Secrets.

You can't act all surprised when people question your motives.

You can't be surprised when people tie you to Conspiracies.

Maybe the OP is totally wrong. Prove it without threats and insults.

reply to post by whyamIhere



Actually, it happened on page 1.

Sauron
reply to post by MagnumOpus

 

Show me the Lodge Name and number the day Ronny was made a 3rd Degree Blue Lodge Mason, can't be a 33rd with out it, unless it's Honorary

oh and your JFK speech pure propaganda, I'm sure you know that though.

read it right here on ATS,
Addressing the JFK “Secret Society” Speech.

[ETA]

this might help, let know how you make out with that.

10,000 Famous Freemason

edit on 4/1/2014 by Sauron because: (no reason given)

reply to post by network dude


I am not making a comment on the truthfulness of the thread.

You guys looked like bullies after page 2.

He has the right to be dead wrong.

JMO

Actually the OP post is on very firm ground, and it is about the Hungarian Interests per Ronnie Reagan and his Certified Mason interests. imho

That tends to expose the Masonic presence here that has to revert to threats and terrorism tactics of fear.


So Far, the theme has shown the Hungarian Revolution history that fermented PERMINDEX via Ferenc Nagy, Tabor Rosenbaum, and Mason George Mandel.

We have show Reagan defied Jim Garrison and kept PERMINDEX records sequestered for PERMINDEX, and was highly praised by Masons.

We have shown how Regan was given high praise by Masons and even made a Certified Mason, since he helped so much on Jewish Issues in the Holocaust record, helped cover up for PERMINDEX, and became a general Masonic good ole boy helping Hoover, Ford, and all the other Masonic crooks per JFK.


So, the OP is doing fine. What isn't doing fine is the Mason's can't deny these charges and they are sticking. imho

And we can now see clearly why the Hungarians now have a Reagan statue, because he backed the Hungarian composed PERMINDEX, and aided and abetted in the cover up of the JFK hit for the Criminal Masons Crooks connected to PERMINDEX and Hungary anti-communism interests that were the epicenter for the JFK hit. imho


In fact, it shows how this mid-50's Hungarian Revolution set off this huge anti-Communism effort in the US and spawned the John Birch Society and others, which then attempted to run over and control US affairs of state per Russia and Cuba. Hungarian PERMINDEX efforts directly interference with Eisenhowers Peace talks with Khruschev in the late 50s and continued on with the push to call Eisenhower Communist if he didn't order the CIA to kill Castro. Then JFK came online as President and they call him Communist when he doesn't back their foreign interest plans to make war on Communists using the manipulations on the US affairs of state, which is the business of the President. Foreign interests connected with European's Royals, Hungary's Nobles, PERMINDEX, were a major force behind the JFK hit and a principle radical extremism was George Mandel and they were helping Zionists gain Nuclear Weapons, which was against JFK's affairs of state. imho


So, not only that is being shown via the evidence, but in the true values of ATS---ignorance is ending, and the truth is coming into the light!!

MagnumOpus
Actually the OP post is on very firm ground...

Like when you claimed Reagan was a Mason?

Or that people denied Kennedy gave the President and the Press speech?

Or that the speech was about something other than the Press?

Or that you think Pike is somehow important to non-Southern Jurisdiction Scottish Rite Masons?

Or that you claim Kennedy was killed by Masons but have yet to supply a motive?

Or that getting banned by Monarchies and dictators is a negative mark against Masonry?

Or that Kennedy was not totally and fervently against world Communism?

reply to post by AugustusMasonicus


don't bully him.

You all keep playing the ignorant word games. Reagan was a Mason, didn't say a word on Free anything.


Even the Master Mason Declare Reagan is a Mason.


Even one of your Mason Brothers confirmed this same item:

therefore,President Reagan should only be referred to as a Shriner or Scottish Rite mason.

Master Mason confirms Reagan is a Mason

MagnumOpus
You all keep playing the ignorant word games. Reagan was a Mason, didn't say a word on Free anything.


Even the Master Mason Declare Reagan is a Mason.


Even one of your Mason Brothers confirmed this same item:

therefore,President Reagan should only be referred to as a Shriner or Scottish Rite mason.

Master Mason confirms Reagan is a Mason

edit on 6-1-2014 by MagnumOpus because: " therefore,President Reagan should only be referred to as a Shriner or Scottish Rite mason. "

Ronald Reagan has often been referred to as a Freemason. President Reagan is not a Freemason although he is an honorary member of the Imperial Council of the Shrine. President Reagan has on numerous occasions been involved in Shrine and masonic functions throughout his career.

from your source.

reply to post by network dude


Pay attention----I said Reagan was a Mason.

Which Master Mason site certifies as true.


And what you sidestepped in showing above!

reply to post by MagnumOpus


read it slowly.

It clearly says no, he was not a mason. It's your link.

reply to post by network dude


It clearly tells Reagan was a Mason!


The thread is about Masons and Royalists linked to the JFK hit, and it kicked off with Reagan's Hungarian recognition over Communism and then it was linked to the various Masonic interests to include Hungary's Mason Mandel.


All you attempt to do with this continual noise on Reagan is derail the thread over pure non-sense and Mason Bully games. imho

reply to post by MagnumOpus


I guess you have re-written the rules of discussion. If you say it at least twice, and act like you mean it, it automatically becomes fact.

I see why you need cheerleaders now.

Step 1, provide link.
Step 2, claim link states something that it does not.
Step 3, become agitated when someone point out your errors.
Step 4, repeat bogus claim.

A sign of maturity is when you can admit you were wrong.
I was wrong to tell you that masons were watching you. It was supposed to be a secret.

MagnumOpus
reply to post by network dude

 

It clearly tells Reagan was a Mason!

Sigh. Please point me to where in your link it says that Reagan was a mason.

edit to add:

You posted "All you attempt to do with this continual noise on Reagan is derail the thread over pure non-sense and Mason Bully games. imho"

Please, correct me if I am in any way wrong here, but wasn't it you who brought up Ronald Reagan?

MagnumOpus
It clearly tells Reagan was a Mason!

Your source clearly says otherwise. Let me help you:

Ronald Reagan has often been referred to as a Freemason. President Reagan is not a Freemason although he is an honorary member of the Imperial Council of the Shrine. President Reagan has on numerous occasions been involved in Shrine and masonic functions throughout his career.

The confusion as to his membership arises from a ceremony held in the Oval Office of the White House on February 11th, 1988, when a group of Freemasons presented President Reagan with a certificate of honor from the Grand Lodge of Washington, D.C., then he was made an Honorary Scottish Rite mason. The title of Freemason can only be conferred by a Grand Lodge of Ancient Free and Accepted Masons. In Reagan's case this was not done, probably because the ceremonies would have taken a full day to confer and the president's time was limited; therefore, President Reagan should only be referred to as a Shriner or Scottish Rite mason. The Shrine and Scottish Rite are concordant bodies and cannot confer the title Freemason on any person.

When Harvard gives out honorary degrees to commencement speakers is that person able to say that they got their degree the same way everyone else does and that it connotes the same meaning?

reply to post by network dude


It was clearly stated on Page two of this theme, a long way back. And stated again just above.

It tells that Reagan should be referred to as a Mason.

Simple as that---impossible to miss.


Reagan had lots of Masonic Connections, and on the whole of this thread, it shows a pattern of Reagan cooperating with Mason's interested in hiding the JFK hit information per Jim Garrison issues.


All this does is run up ATS bandwidth on an issue that was fully addressed on page two, but Master Mason confirms that Reagan should be called Mason.

reply to post by AugustusMasonicus


It appears that you don't take into account the term "Mason" and the term "FreeMason"

With the recognition given to Reagan by Masons, he may be called a "Mason".



You also imply that Masons are like some accredited institution, when they are more like a fraternity. Any fraternity can confirm membership. imho

Masons are a clown act in some aspects---Shrine----and their skits are non-sense designed by Al Pike.

Masons are a simple minded and easily corrupted fraternity and Reagan was accepted as a Mason. Masons are known for acts of illegal hazing, and have been under intense investigations for criminal conduct just for hazing the members and bully methods. imho


Masons don't have any real secret knowledge of value----other than being a click that supports each other's crimes. Masons tend to be seen as corrupt over large parts of the world.


All this self-aggrandizations of Masons making better people, appears total non-sense for any Mason group that backs Pike or these Hoover, Ford, Mandel games to kill and cover up the JFK issue. imho

reply to post by MagnumOpus


A mason is a man, who has been initiated, passed, and raised, in a regular masonic lodge.
Your definition is meaningless.

Maybe English isn't your first language.

I personally like Reagan. I think he would have made a great mason. Other masons may disagree. But then since we have free will and all, we can be like that.

But in the grand scheme of life, Ronald Reagan was given an honorary membership in the Scottish Rite. He was not a mason, a freemason, or a Shriner. He was an honorary member of the Scottish Rite.

Unless you can prove that he was raised to the sublime degree of master mason in a legally constituted master masons lodge, you just wrong. I am sorry. I wish you were right.

And if you ever get real bored, do check out the link to the JFK speech. It does a great job of explaining whey conspiracy folks get it wrong so often.

MagnumOpus
It appears that you don't take into account the term "Mason" and the term "FreeMason"

I do, they are synonyms and interchangeable. Reagan was made an honorary member which means just that. He never progressed through the degrees and is therefore, as your source stated, not a Mason or Freemason.

You also imply that Masons are like some accredited institution, when they are more like a fraternity. Any fraternity can confirm membership.

Do you mean 'confer'? Any fly by night can start a fraternity and claim to be a Masonic group but each state has recognized Grand Lodges and if you were to try and get in lodge with an unrecognized membership, or an honorary one, you would be denied entry.

Masons are a clown act in some aspects---Shrine----and their skits are non-sense designed by Al Pike.

I am sure you know, with all your extensive troofing, that the Shrine was started in New York City in 1875 where Albert Pike was pretty much irrelevant.

Masons are a simple minded and easily corrupted fraternity and Reagan was accepted as a Mason. imho

Simple minded people are the ones who cannot read their own sources and end up having to concoct more nonsense to cover themselves instead of admitting they made a mistake.

reply to post by network dude


I think everyone knows that the JFK missive speech on Secret Society , that was part of the Press Speech, was aimed right at the Masons, as JFK knew they were behind the uprising of the Anti-Communism issues in the US and was the system that attempted to bully he and Eisenhower on the Anti-Communism craze.

It also pointed out to the Press that JFK knew who's marching orders they were following to keep pushing to force issues on affairs of state.

I am fine with JFK Missive about the Secret Society being emphasized as speaking only about the Masons, and that nobody in the world should approve of their methods to bully even the Office of President. imho


I am sure the Masons are all bent out of shape because JFK called them out right in front of the press, but the case fits and JFK will expose the Corrupt Masons plot that involved helping kill him, as he is vindicated as correct even in death.


Masons in the US greatest moral claim is they helped kill JFK, and such speaks to their overall debauchery. imho