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jayremoe
MONEY (THE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF OWNERSHIP)
You see, that cannot spawn up by chance. Science has explained over and over that the chances for life come into existence and be sustained on this planet the way it has was less than 1 in a trillion. Every single form of life had to be in complete harmony with one another, the chemistry had to be flawless, one degree to high or too low and the house of cards would crumble. If our earth was not aligned EXACTLY where it is , the sun would not emit the rays we needed to survive.
I agree with this. That is why I believe rejection is a blessing. In the eyes of most people I am among the lowest of the low. I have a menial job, clashed with my family, no aspirations in the material world, I think I was about to be diagnosed with mental disorders but I stopped going to the psychiatrist, and on and on... I had an experience, a spiritual awakening, where I saw through this world. I suddenly saw that this world is upside down. Then I became a spiritual seeker. (before that I might have been an unconscious seeker, or a nonspiritual seeker, or just plain depressed and hopeless) Now I believe the rejection, depression, clashing with people and the world etc. is a blessing. I still get most people thinking I'm delusional, mad, not normal, in denial, etc. But now I don't take it to heart most of the time, instead I feel I'm blessed and better than a lot of people at thinking deeply and outside the box. It seems to me it might be that you have to clash with the world to deeply question it, and to deeply question the nature of reality, to truly be a seeker and question. Sometimes, still, I'm not sure though.
freedom7
the only way we will be able to see through all the lies, deceit and collective chaos is when we make the choice to distance ourselves from friendship with the ways of this world, where we reach a moment where we see the lies from the truth, where we grow tired of living in a world of complete evil
en.wikipedia.org...
In several dialogues, most notably the Republic, Socrates inverts the common man's intuition about what is knowable and what is real. While most people take the objects of their senses to be real if anything is, Socrates is contemptuous of people who think that something has to be graspable in the hands to be real. In the Theaetetus, he says such people are "eu a-mousoi", an expression that means literally, "happily without the muses" (Theaetetus 156a). In other words, such people live without the divine inspiration that gives him, and people like him, access to higher insights about reality. Socrates's idea that reality is unavailable to those who use their senses is what puts him at odds with the common man, and with common sense. Socrates says that he who sees with his eyes is blind, and this idea is most famously captured in his allegory of the cave, and more explicitly in his description of the divided line. The allegory of the cave (begins Republic 7.514a) is a paradoxical analogy wherein Socrates argues that the invisible world is the most intelligible ("noeton") and that the visible world ("(h)oraton") is the least knowable, and the most obscure. Socrates says in the Republic that people who take the sun-lit world of the senses to be good and real are living pitifully in a den of evil and ignorance. Socrates admits that few climb out of the den, or cave of ignorance, and those who do, not only have a terrible struggle to attain the heights, but when they go back down for a visit or to help other people up, they find themselves objects of scorn and ridicule. According to Socrates, physical objects and physical events are "shadows" of their ideal or perfect forms, and exist only to the extent that they instantiate the perfect versions of themselves. Just as shadows are temporary, inconsequential epiphenomena produced by physical objects, physical objects are themselves fleeting phenomena caused by more substantial causes, the ideals of which they are mere instances.
www.kabbalah.info.../eng/content/view/full/2858&main
The sum of man’s desires is referred to as his heart. Since the nature with which we are born is absolute egoism, man does not feel the spiritual point in his heart. However, at some point in one of his reincarnations, man begins to gradually strive towards attainment of the causes of life, its evaluation; he yearns to attain himself, his source, just as you do right now. Man’s aspiration to the Creator is precisely this aspiration to attain his origin. Man’s discontent in life often helps him in this search, when there’s nothing that appeals to him in his surroundings. Such circumstances are sent from Above in order for man to start feeling an empty point in his heart, and to stimulate in him the desire to fulfill it.
Lucid Lunacy
reply to post by freedom7
You see, that cannot spawn up by chance. Science has explained over and over that the chances for life come into existence and be sustained on this planet the way it has was less than 1 in a trillion. Every single form of life had to be in complete harmony with one another, the chemistry had to be flawless, one degree to high or too low and the house of cards would crumble. If our earth was not aligned EXACTLY where it is , the sun would not emit the rays we needed to survive.
Seems unreasonable perhaps until you attempt to fathom and appreciate the scope of the Universe.
As they say more stars in the Universe than grains of sand in all the beaches on Earth. Each of those stars have (or had) planets orbiting them. Up to 400 billion stars in our galaxy alone. Which probably means a trillion planets in our galaxy. And that's only 1 of the estimated 100-200 billion galaxies…
The chances of those specific conditions have to be put into the proper context. The entire Universe.edit on 4-1-2014 by Lucid Lunacy because: (no reason given)
Inarismessenger
jayremoe
MONEY (THE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF OWNERSHIP)
This is the real evil and those suckered into it in the first place couldn't have seen it coming.
"Beware of listening to this impostor; you are undone if you once forget that the fruits of the earth belong to us all, and the earth itself to nobody." - J J Rousseau
Even the universe itself had to be formed in a specific way in order for our solar system and Earth to exist. The way I understand it, some of the mathematical constants that happened to fall out were more likely to fall out in other ways, and had they done that. The universe as we know it would be impossible.
If our earth was not aligned EXACTLY where it is , the sun would not emit the rays we needed to survive.
jayremoe
what if humanity has already found God/the source of creation?
what if religion (Christianity/Islam) are the source of confusion about God?