World's climate warming faster than feared, scientists say

reply to post by guohua


yeah and didn't it just snow in Egypt?

the first time in 100 years. So it had snowed before in Egypt but not since 1913. climate Change has been going on since the beginning of time and I suspect it will continue but not to the detriment of mankind.

NowanKenubi
It's minus 40 here with a little wind. It will be like that for a few days. Boy, am I glad it is warmer! lol

I'll let you in on a little secret...the world is round, and has seasons....I guess you have no idea this is happening
au.ibtimes.com...

hmmm...I wonder why it's not minus 40 there, since you have a total grasp on global warming...

reply to post by jimmyx


I've just had my first ever frost-free December here in England.

I guess that's global cooling for you

reply to post by guohua


As long as there is ice in the arctic there will be winters. Warmer global temperatures can make harsher winters.

The flip side of the question, of course, is whether global warming is at least partly to blame for especially harsh winter weather. As we pointed out in a recent EarthTalk column, warmer temperatures in the winter of 2006 caused Lake Erie to not freeze for the first time in its history. This actually led to increased snowfalls because more evaporating water from the lake was available for precipitation.

Scientific American

AndyMayhew
reply to post by jimmyx

 

I've just had my first ever frost-free December here in England.

I guess that's global cooling for you

Global Cooling is a hoax orchestrated by the NWO to herd us all into temperate zones so TPTB can use all our oil for their super duper blow smoke up our asses machines, that's the Right Wing Agenda.

reply to post by TDawgRex

I don't give blind support to any view...

I was referring ONLY to your ad hominen attack on InverseLookingGlass in blind support of wrabbit.

Besides I'm quitting smoking (again) and am truly the super-biotch from hell so don't mess with me and that's my story til the death threats start after which I may reconsider. ):


With all due respect,
sofi

Global Warming = Carbon Tax Credit Scam

reply to post by ChesterJohn


Hey, have you heard about that stranded ship of climate scientists?
Mysteriously, the media has turned it into a ship of mere “tourists”

lmao....



Tourists....hahaha

The thing is If it is true and we have changed our climate and do nothing we will reap the consequences, If we are not doing anything to the climate nothing will change anyhow...but are you willing to bet our grandchildrens lives on it?.
To me climate change is happening be it man made or natural, I have noticed it for some time but us all arguing about why it is happening is not going to solve the problem, we must act now or our grandkids will look back on our generation as the most selfish evil twits ever.

AndyMayhew
reply to post by jimmyx

 

I've just had my first ever frost-free December here in England.

I guess that's global cooling for you

I have seen models in which because of global warming the gulf stream which keeps us in the UK relativly warm could change and we in would actually get very cold like siberia or alaska but the southern hemisphere would get warmer.

boymonkey74
The thing is If it is true and we have changed our climate and do nothing we will reap the consequences, If we are not doing anything to the climate nothing will change anyhow...but are you willing to bet our grandchildrens lives on it?.
To me climate change is happening be it man made or natural, I have noticed it for some time but us all arguing about why it is happening is not going to solve the problem, we must act now or our grandkids will look back on our generation as the most selfish evil twits ever.

If the fact that Al Gore who's family trust is heavily invested in Occidental Petroleum is not enough of a clue to tell you what a scam global warming is I don't think you will ever see the light. Of course there is climate change it happens 4 times a year. Summer, fall, winter and spring.

reply to post by burntheships


Maybe you should read more... tourists accompanied the scientific expedition, that's how it was funded. The fact that denialists thought the situation was hilarious (as indicated by caps, haha's and exclamation points) speaks volumes to your collective mentality. Revelling in the despair of others is indicative of psychopathy. And as you so predictably ignored... they got stuck because of a collapsed ice shelf.

Zeppp

boymonkey74
The thing is If it is true and we have changed our climate and do nothing we will reap the consequences, If we are not doing anything to the climate nothing will change anyhow...but are you willing to bet our grandchildrens lives on it?.
To me climate change is happening be it man made or natural, I have noticed it for some time but us all arguing about why it is happening is not going to solve the problem, we must act now or our grandkids will look back on our generation as the most selfish evil twits ever.

If the fact that Al Gore who's family trust is heavily invested in Occidental Petroleum is not enough of a clue to tell you what a scam global warming is I don't think you will ever see the light. Of course there is climate change it happens 4 times a year. Summer, fall, winter and spring.

Supposing that's true (could be, don't care about Al Gore so haven't looked) that speaks to Al Gore's character, not to whether science is wrong on global warming or not.

One minute its heating up, then its cooling then its melting then it freezing.

We had a running joke at University. Those that cant do Maths do physics, those that cant do physics do Chemistry, those that cant do Chemistry do Biology and those that are incapable of doing anything go into either sociology or Environmental sciences

I guess those the environmental scientists are still trying to figure out how to count, maybe they get confused with negative numbers and the fact they get higher? Bless them

reply to post by Kali74


My comments were made towards the medias cover up that
they were just tourists, so you have it backwards.


Antarctic tourist ship trapped by sea ice

On board the Akademic Shokalskiy are scientists from the University of NSW, a journalist from the Guardian and dozens of tourists who have paid to be part of the recreation of Mawson’s expedition.

Read more: www.smh.com.au...

Of course, glad they have all made it to safety, sceintists, and those
who went along for the folly.

Kali74

Zeppp

boymonkey74
The thing is If it is true and we have changed our climate and do nothing we will reap the consequences, If we are not doing anything to the climate nothing will change anyhow...but are you willing to bet our grandchildrens lives on it?.
To me climate change is happening be it man made or natural, I have noticed it for some time but us all arguing about why it is happening is not going to solve the problem, we must act now or our grandkids will look back on our generation as the most selfish evil twits ever.

If the fact that Al Gore who's family trust is heavily invested in Occidental Petroleum is not enough of a clue to tell you what a scam global warming is I don't think you will ever see the light. Of course there is climate change it happens 4 times a year. Summer, fall, winter and spring.

Supposing that's true (could be, don't care about Al Gore so haven't looked) that speaks to Al Gore's character, not to whether science is wrong on global warming or not.

The 4 Corners of Deceit
Government
Science
Academia
Media

The Universities are run by the Progressives, who want to tax everyone for everything, and they keep their claws in every scientist as to control this dopey global warming scam.

Consensus != Science. (consensus does not equal science and science is not based on consensus)

There is a major difference between the two, and as long as people keep fighting over what they do and don't "agree" on, rather than what is factually evident, there will NEVER be an agreement or resolution for the problems we face. Science is predicated on theory being proven by facts demonstrated by strict observation and experiments. It doesn't matter how much math, diagrams or models you have, until the experiment or observations can be repeatedly PROVEN to be true, it is just a THEORY. Global warming is still a THEORY, not a fact, since we (clearly) do not have enough observation to make that determination yet (and have not a single experiment), and anyone who claims otherwise is extraordinarily arrogant. We are still in the theory and modeling stages, and until observation and experimentation match the models 100%, WE ARE WRONG in our understanding. We aren't even close to achieving that today.

The variables needed to be understood for global climate are far too wide and too deep for us to comprehend, let alone to try to model in computers that only predict what WE TELL THEM. This is why your daily weather forecasts are still wrong. This is why hurricane tracks and strengths are still wrong. Wind directions and strengths for marine forecasts are wrong. Just because they are right some of the time does not make them always true. This is why forecasts are always in percentages because it is based on PROBABILITY, meaning a chance that something will happen, not based on experimental or observational validation where it is GOING to happen for sure. (a chance of rain, a cone of "uncertainty", etc.)

Can anyone say with confidence and PROOF that any weather model or prediction today is always, 100% of the time, completely accurate? We can't even predict cloud formation AT ALL, which is one of the biggest feedback mechanisms for climate, but we've cracked the whole nut for the entire planet's climate? :LOL: With a FAR smaller set of variables to work with, we still get local weather forecasts wrong and we've been doing that for decades, yet some of you will put all of your faith into a science that is infant in its understanding of global climate and believe that the models today are correct when so much observation and experimentation shows otherwise? As if the models aren't always wrong and ever-changing based on things we thought we knew today, that we really didn't know until tomorrow?

You can put as many PhDs in a room on this topic as you want, and I guarantee that almost all of them will say exactly what I have here unless they are at the height of human arrogance and truly believe that they have solved the secrets to understanding planetary climate... to which I say "PROVE IT!"

~Namaste

reply to post by burntheships

I am with the Australasian Antarctic Expedition, led by climate scientist Chris Turney of the University of New South Wales. We are following a century-old expedition led by the British-Australian Antarctic explorer Douglas Mawson, who landed in Commonwealth Bay in January 1912. We – a group of scientists and paying members of the public acting as science assistants – plan to repeat many of Mawson's scientific measurements in order to understand how this pristine landscape has changed over the past 100 years.

The Guardian

soficrow
Besides I'm quitting smoking (again) and am truly the super-biotch from hell so don't mess with me and that's my story til the death threats start after which I may reconsider. ):
With all due respect,
sofi

I'm cool with that. In my fourth month of semi-quitting. I'm addicted to nicotine and without nicotine I will admit I am a dick. Nope...make that DICK.

So it's all good.

Good luck to you in your endeavor.

Kali74
reply to post by soficrow

 

Yeah, people really should learn how climate works before commenting on the debate. They might then learn there's no debate to be had and we're just in for a chaotic ride until we either pull our collective head out of our collective ass and solve it or we die. As you know, global warming will cause extreme weather, including winter extremes, for about as long as there is ice in the Arctic, once the ice is gone then we will have the global warming everyone thinks the term means.

First it was global warming and when people saw it wasn't getting warm they changed their strategy to climate change. Now they are saying that global warming causes extreme climate change. LOL!!! Just keep throwing the sh!t against the wall something will eventually stick.