Curiosity: Potential Anomalies (Update 01/2014)

AnomalysMonaLysa
Also the object on top of it looks way too reflective to be a rock.

I disagree, a polished rock can be very reflective, and that object is not that reflective, I have seen more reflective rocks on Mars.

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Yes, that marking looks a lot like an artistic calligraphy I have seen on old Chinese art scrolls, More than one stroke that has that calligraphy pen look in a few places..
Some of these "layered" sheet like stuff are rocks for sure, but then we see things like the box in the mix, and so on, just enough real rocks there to give NASA plausible deniability and tell us it is ALL rocks HAHA!

The shallow box reminds me of when fabricating shallow channel letter covers for signs, it is bent on the edges like that, and then the corners are welded and ground smooth then touched up again.. This one looks like you said, the seams broken or breaking on those corners. This actually is the weakest point on that kind of thing, so to see those separate isn't a surprise. This lends credence to it being anomalous or at least worth taking a good look at.
Those other square shaped sideways "U's look a lot like clamps for square tubing, and there appears to be a bunch of them.

Many of those fiberglass, carbon fiber parts have clamped on straps and all kinds of odds and ends, and seeing all this junk makes me really think we are looking at the remnants of an aircraft graveyard. or junk yard. That image with the wrecked looking crushed car with one wheel still on it comes to mind as well...

Notice also the very fibrous appearance of a lot of the stuff all around, it looks like fiberglass parts, and layered fiberglass pre-peg used in vacuum bagging for making strong aircraft parts, And also, those ribbon like belts that are in a few places and thin unlike any kind rock formation I have ever dreamed of, let alone seen, and I don't believe it can be rock material. It looks more like thin metal and fiberglass and some things are hollow shells. A hollow shell to a rock is like a donut hole is to a donut , it just doesn't make sense to me when I see these things in these images and then NASA says they are just blah rock...

I have seen enough in some of these and some very suspicious items like this that looks like a stripped down brake or clutch pedal assembly, the one I'm referring to looks like one end is a wrench or spanner a little bit until you see the rest and the leverage rod spindle portion of it. That one is a mechanical part and not a rock. at least that is my stance on it. I'll look for that image if you haven't seen it.

Good catches! keep it going

reply to post by AnomalysMonaLysa

Since the topic of sheet metal was brought up, and you are very knowledgeable in this area

No I am afraid I am not knowledgeable as you can see if you read the comments I made in the 30's pages on this thread when I discovered the things you are looking at. But I was forced to look into the possibilities. Seeing other environments that are as cold and dry if not acidic like Mars helped me.here is a small sample of what i mean, there are tons of objects there that also look like they have been machine tooled and yet nature did indeed create these things. Look up Ventifacts


thedryvalleys.com...

here is a lovely area lincked from Jeep3r
www.abovetopsecret.com...&mem=

reply to post by alienreality


I'm not into the machine pieces, or think that that stuff has anything to do with writing. Nature gives us rocks to play with. But here is a piece of "calligraphy" like lettering that someone found earlier in this thread. To that poster and to me it looks like a beautifully stylized "S", and I would love to see an entire typeface made to look like the style of this one letter. That doesn't mean that Martians wrote it on the rock, it means our brains are hardwired to try to make order out of molehills, and so to us this looks like a stylized letter "S" while in real life it's carved with sediment, rock, sand, sunlight, shadow, and wind. Still looks great though:

reply to post by alienreality

Thanks for the detailed explanation! I agree wholeheartedly that some types of rock, slate, shale, etc., with their straight angles and evenly spaced layers can appear almost manmade. And I do try to keep this, as well as the fact that I may be looking at non-terrestrial rock, in mind when scouring the images. However, I admit I'm completely lost in regards to what a clutch pedal assembly or leverage rod spindle looks like. Even so, I would like to take a look at the image you're talking about, if you can find it.

Interesting theory that this area could possibly be some kind of transportation junkyard. This next image might support that theory. At first I thought it was merely a crevice, but looking closer, the long black object, with its rounded edges and slightly reflective spots, looks like it could possibly be a rubber hose or even a snake!Once again, this is from image pia17931, just below the other anomalies I've recently pointed out.

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Neat on from Death Valley

Aleister
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I'm not into the machine pieces, or think that that stuff has anything to do with writing. Nature gives us rocks to play with. But here is a piece of "calligraphy" like lettering that someone found earlier in this thread. To that poster and to me it looks like a beautifully stylized "S", and I would love to see an entire typeface made to look like the style of this one letter. That doesn't mean that Martians wrote it on the rock, it means our brains are hardwired to try to make order out of molehills, and so to us this looks like a stylized letter "S" while in real life it's carved with sediment, rock, sand, sunlight, shadow, and wind. Still looks great though:

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I agree on the small stuff, has to be false imaging data or some filter being applied to give every image an easy reason to debunk whether they need it or not, but I know that suspecting that is a leap in craziness, but in classified stuff, they think up crazy things to keep things secret.\, so it might be worth a tiny mention hehe..
I am beginning to wonder on most everything else, but there have been images found that are very convincing as anomalous. At least in many people's views it seems.

That "S" is very nice, a good find It made me think of a king cobra at first glance, rather than an "S", but cool either way.

Like finding butterflies with letters, numbers, symbols on them, I know it happens in nature.. It's just the stuff that doesn't make sense that seems to trip me up.. Like rocks that mimic a rectangular section of steel tubing with straight cut ends , and something like a strap with clamps laying nearby.. It just doesn't make sense even if it is anomalous, there can't be a planet wide aerospace graveyard there.
I'm now think it is 95% data getting scrambled a bit or the way the imaging systems put out a product causing the smaller stuff. But the larger fabricated looking stuff I'm still not sure about.. I think today and yesterday were the most time I have taken to study on this, and so I try to be a quick learner Havin a good time as well and it is great to have so many minds to share info and opinions with.

Cheers!

Char-Lee
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Neat on from Death Valley

Wow! well now, that pretty much shows that nature CAN really do anything

It also pretty much answers many questions for me that I didn't know had an answer this simple

Thanks for posting this

ArMaP
That area that looks like the result of some liquid flow covers more than one photo, so here's the whole area.

I hate to say that I think sometimes the dust gets powdery enough and small enough that it "flows" like water, scooping out some areas. And then once it slides down it loses some of its cohesion and blows away in the wind. So you get areas that look like water flows, but it's really just dust flows.

I also tend to see water flows as leaving a lump of mud or something at the bottom that's actually more solid and resilient than a dust lump. I don't see any mud ball remnants at the bottoms of these flows.

reply to post by AnomalysMonaLysa


Looking at a few things like this today also, that rope strand which I don't think the data imaging answers for. After looking at all this today, and hearing everone's thoughts, I can see that much of it is probably not anomalous, but that cable and perfect compound geometric shapes that look fabricated and age worn, and dented and hollow like a rusty pick-up truck's body parts, I am not ready to just give up on those quite yet.

I have seen some very convincing writing (like writing) on a few other mars images too, and most look etched in, or embossed, and since it is whole lines of symbol looking characters, and not just 1 or 2, and also because they are horizontally or vertically in line, makes it far more believable I think.

I have seen a few cable like strands like yours, but not that many, and I have also seen a ton of those 2" wide looking straps or belts that stand out in a rippling way that a belt will look when it is tossed somewhere, so I do think that it being artificial is at least a very good possibility.. In a perfectworld where everything works right, those things would be 100% anomalous I believe.
To believe everything in all their many varied styles of objects being seen, that shouldn't be there, are only image glitches, would in my view be wrong, but I'm still open to finding out. I think Mars holds a lot of unknowns, that someone does know, but won't tell it to the masses.

Here's that lever item, and it is bent a bit.. It even has an alignment pin on that upper part, that part is at the correct angle for a mechanized lever, and so I think it is anomalous. But I need to say, that I have missed any discussion that may have already taken place about this image, and so I may have completely missed out on hearing some other answer or explanation..

It looks like a segment of a automobile floor pedal lever, like brakes, or clutch, etc.
I can't help thinking this::: "Need free 100 % natural car parts? just go to mars! they are found laying around and are made of strong granite and basalt!" haha

alienreality
I agree on the small stuff, has to be false imaging data or some filter being applied to give every image an easy reason to debunk whether they need it or not, but I know that suspecting that is a leap in craziness, but in classified stuff, they think up crazy things to keep things secret.\, so it might be worth a tiny mention hehe..

Or too much zooming.

Have you noticed that most anomalies have less than 16 pixels in the shortest dimension?

Blue Shift
I hate to say that I think sometimes the dust gets powdery enough and small enough that it "flows" like water, scooping out some areas.

I know.

I also tend to see water flows as leaving a lump of mud or something at the bottom that's actually more solid and resilient than a dust lump. I don't see any mud ball remnants at the bottoms of these flows.

Neither do I, what made me think of liquid flow was the sides of the apparently carved trench/crack on the ground, as they appear higher than the surrounding area, as if there was some accumulation of material on the sides.

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Here's a link to a thread on Char-Lee's skunk-marsmal find in the same picture as the "wrench" (and I never noticed the top rod on it, thanks for pointing that out), and the thread has some links to several other threads about the wrench and the photo that it's in.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

And two links to other threads about that photo from Jeep, in this post:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Apparantly it's the or one of the most studied Mars photos, and yet nobody had seen the little creature-rock that Char-Lee found, with the broken pixels (one of which made a perfect eye for her marscreature). The image isn't from Curiosity, I think it's from Spirit.

Mars is Jesus land...

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Did you mean the light reflection of a cross, or the large rock we have to roll away from his tomb?

reply to post by Aleister


I've been looking over the original wrench image too. Very interesting stuff. Cute little rat thingee, even if he's not real. I have a few pics of my own "martian fauna." Here's a neat, if creepy, laser-eyed bird critter/statue/rock formation.
Sorry, but I just HAD to add a pic of Marvin's "instant martians!"
But seriously, does anyone have any idea what this is?

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I don't think it's a light reflection...more likely a rock against rock brushing off made that. Anyway...it was more of a spoof anomaly

How about this weird thing...



From Sol 137

There is more than enough potential anomoli in this thread to pursuade many harsh skeptoids! The problem is that they are now deep down encrusted in 130 pages of semi/nearly anomolies.

We should pick our favourites and maybe jeeper can update the o.p or start a new thread, mars potential anomoli 2.

My personal favourite

alienreality

Char-Lee
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Neat on from Death Valley

Wow! well now, that pretty much shows that nature CAN really do anything

It also pretty much answers many questions for me that I didn't know had an answer this simple

Thanks for posting this

In my opinion extreme environments can be the creators of all kinds of wonderful oddities but I don't think we should ever dismiss something we see as looking unnatural simply because it MIGHT be natural.

We can't know is the problem at this time but some of the things we think we see may one day be proved to be unnatural!

We need to just be aware that we can't know yet because the word impossible is a silly word sometimes used to dismiss what may later be proven true, this has happened time and again throughout history!

Find me an insect :-) Or a clear coin or a whole stone of glyphs!!!

MarioOnTheFly
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I don't think it's a light reflection...more likely a rock against rock brushing off made that. Anyway...it was more of a spoof anomaly

How about this weird thing...

From Sol 137

Reminds me of the unknown glyphs found in the pyramid shafts!