Curiosity: Potential Anomalies (Update 01/2014)

Aleister
Here again is one of funbox's gifs of the object, which seems to show that most of it is upraised as part of the larger rock, and shows the rim quite well.

I prefer faster animations and just with the two images from the left and right camera, as it gives a better idea of the 3D scene.

As it may be seizure-inducing (although it passed my tests), I will post just the link for the image.
files.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by ArMaP


faster erm ok
with extra nitrous and go faster pixels



funBox

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But why three images?
More images doesn't mean a better idea of the 3D scene, as the images should be in an order that allows our brains to interpret it as if we were moving while looking at the scene, if they are not we get a confusing idea of the scene.

reply to post by ArMaP


each image will have accurate positions of specular highlights, shadow positions, and occlusion data, if it was possible I would make a gif with as many images as provided

your gif is a lot less strainfull on the eye tho

funBox

If we could walk over and poke around at this thing that would be different, and the Rover could do that if only one of us were driving it. As for now all we have are a couple or three semi-long distance photographs to discuss and illustrate, and to try to peek around the corners and speculate on how many rocks make up whatever this may be. It certainly looks unusual, and luckily enough is elevated at enough of an angle to make the mysterious seem possible. So the more graphics the merrier, because until NASA gives us more meat all we can do is gnaw on the bone.

reply to post by Aleister


alert alert alert , another influx of sol pics

mastcam sol522

aghh probably another load of old bones, but , nothing wrong with that , might make an excellent broth

edit , seems like the dance floor gets a second look



dance


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reply to post by funbox


Dance floor with the miniature race track around it, yep, but they cut off the oyster-on-the-half-shell and riding whatisit just to the right and "up" a little from it. Did they include that one on any of the new pics?

reply to post by Aleister


no more clams but something kept pulling my eye to the ehem rocky outcrop from this pic, would be nice to have some corroboration

sol 522



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funbox
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no more clams but something kept pulling my eye to the ehem rocky outcrop from this pic, would be nice to have some corroboration

sol 522

funBox

i can see some sort of wheel and on the floor the remains of an axel, does that corroborate what you see?

reply to post by symptomoftheuniverse


right in the middle almost , slightly left something is giving off a real bright specular highlight looks almost kind of cylindrical domish on top with the suns reflection (disc) diffused but mildly apparent, the whole area looks like it has a fair bit of metal in it , or something that reflect light like metal, wet rock?

added for clarity/unclarity



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right in the middle almost , slightly left something is giving off a real bright specular highlight looks almost kind of cylindrical domish on top with the suns reflection (disc) diffused but mildly apparent, the whole area looks like it has a fair bit of metal in it , or something that reflect light like metal, wet rock?

added for clarity/unclarity

funBox

edit on 25-1-2014 by funbox because: W

edit on 25-1-2014 by funbox because: additional discription under the duress of dingoes(wolves holidaying in cyprus)

I don't know about the metal, and I'll curb my enthusiasm this time (Larry David's adventures have taught me well, but the lessons have yet to sink in judging by my past posts on this thread), but isn't that yet another Spoke fossil/creature/rock on top of that one rock, maybe what you guys are calling metal or a wheel (it's just to the right of the leftward most arrow on the pic). These Spoke thingamajigswhatchyamacallits are becoming a dime a dozen up there on Mars. The Rover is practically tripping over them. I'm not going to go all gung-ho and alert everybody and everybody's brother this time. But yeah, looks like another Spoke fossil just laying in the open for all the world (and by world I mean Mars) to see.

The most interesting shiny bit to me is the third arrow, with the rock in question being quite smooth and mirrorlike. I'm surprised and shocked you haven't come up with gifs, ridealongs, and stop-action video on these things. As for the Spoke creature, once again it is too far off to confirm with certainty. Edgar Rice Burroughs and Ray Bradbury are tired of spinning in their graves, and probably are having a beer and watching the action on this one.

reply to post by Aleister


well grounded Aleister, smooth sweeping curves and discs (even the ones with cyclinders or holes) are becoming ten a penny..
as for the spoke cylindrical shape , that's what that arrow is pointing at , but yeah im noticing the *gubbings* next to it, the far right arrow , the shadow struck me as a bit out of place, not quite sure why kinda squared off :F

as for that shiny thing in the middle, that was what drew me magpielike to the whole region

im all out of gif juice unfortunately, going to be a dry weekend

funBox

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Zoomed in on your pic at 400 percent, and what's that green tentacled one-eyed non-flying purple people eater just to the right of the Spoke creature and up a notch. It's just sitting on a rock, apparently without a care in the world (and by world I mean Mars), gazing out at the shiny bits with its one large eye. EDIT a few seconds later - nope, it's got two eyes.

EDIT: Here tis, and what a cutie. Little green martian indeed:

reply to post by Aleister


I see it but if it waiting for a rescue it going to be sorely pissed at curiosity's medicare facility's, there appears to be a fair bit of color all around this rock feature , maybe they'll be more light shed as it draws closer, ahhh well,.. and now my eyes are beginning to bleed , way to many mars picks me thinks

tot straks
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mars.jpl.nasa.gov...


There are so many odd things in the rest of that picture! Fossil looking stuff everywhere, see the huge tooth like object under the black rock far right bottom?

Wow i wish i could see that whole picture larger and clearer!!

reply to post by jeep3r

"It Was a Bad Day at ‘Acephalous Gulch’, Pardner"
or “Heads Will Roll at Cumberland”

I have slept on this one for five days, whether or not to post what is below.

Here it is. I am prepared for the gnashing of teeth and snide comments, but I need some resolution on this image.

It has haunted me.

I need your help, really digging into this one. If you have serious image analysis skills please spend some time on this one. If you know a professional analyst that can rip through this, see if they would take a gander. I don’t feel that I have seen everything to see in this image, but it’s a start.

Image Source Data & Detail for SOL 353 2013-08-03 19:45
Site 11 / 302 / 4 --- SCLK428827519 --- SEQ mcam01435
Approximate Location / East 8146125, North -272065.95
Image list I have found available for SOL 353 of target subject area:
0353MR0014460000301273E01_DRCL.IMG
0353MR0014460000301273E01_DRCL.LBL
0353MR0014460000301273E01_DRCL.jpg JPEG 422
0353MR0014460000301273E01_DRCL.png
0353MR0014460000301273E01_DRCX 5MB
0353MR0014460000301273E01_DRLX 10MB
0353MR0014460000301273E01_DRXX 10MB
0353MR0014460000301273E01_XXXX 374KB
Mastcam: Right 2013-08-03 18:52:20 UTC 0353MR1446000000E1_DXXX.jpg
Mastcam: Left 2013-08-03 18:52:01 UTC 0353ML1446000000E1_DXXX.jpg
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NASA-MSL SOL DOCUMENT (Excerpted)
Sol 353-355 : SOWG Documentarian
Summary
SOWG Chair: Doug Ming
LTP: Sanjeev Gupta
Science Planner: Nimisha Mittal
Documentarian: Jen Griffes
High-level summary:
All instruments are healthy going into this 3-sol plan. Sol 353 includes a targeted science block with ChemCam and Mastcam, along with the SSS backbone with SAM dropoff (Cumberland sample), then overnight SAM EGA analysis. Sol 354 includes a mobility backbone and associated imaging with an approximately 60 meter drive planned. Sol 355 includes an untargeted science block with ChemCam and Mastcam, along with a Mt. Sharp Navcam movie.
Mission Manager – Activities;
Drop-off sample to SAM and overnight analysis.
Sol Mission: Targeted Remote Sensing; SAM "Cumberland" Sample Delivery and Analysis
Today's Plan:
Sol 353: (no PM passes)
DAN passive
Science Block (Mastcam Excerpted)
- Mastcam 1x1 L0R0 Hector CCAM, pri 1
- Mastcam 1x1 L0R0 Howey CCAM, pri 3
- Mastcam shrink wrap stereo 1x1 L0R0 Hudson, pri 2
Resources:
Get all critical data down but close to 900 Mb limit
We are sun safe.
Plan has been approved.
(End of NASA-MSL MISSION Excerpt)
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Here is where the Target was located.
“Target Curio Pixel Coordinate” Reference Image;
(I will be referencing TCPC from this source image, even if I am using a cropped and annotated image for verification integrity… Buzz D.)
0353MR0014460000301273E01_DRCL.png 2965KB
You can download a copy at;
mars.jpl.nasa.gov...
Image Timestamp is 2013-08-03 18:52:20 UTC

How do I even start this?
The image opens up at 100% on my screen.
As I parse through the frame, the first thing that caught my eye the deeply carved gully in the middle of the bottom half on the image. Interesting. Then my eye catches a light color/silvery area halfway to the right edge. So I zoom in (700) on it at 1007, 763. It is indeed a chrome orb-ish shaped object... and it appears to be on a translucent stand, with the top being at 1007, 757 and the bottom of the structure at 1007, 797.... mildly interesting and certainly "not a rock"- OK, so I will look more in depth at that later. Back to parsing

Swinging back to the gully (still at 700 zoom) I see a "quad-lobed blue blob"... WOW, that is really interesting. I stare at it and it looks translucent, gelatinous, almost like a jellyfish, but is almost glows with so much reflected light in contrast to everything else in frame. Again, I make a note of the position to look at "Blue Blob" later if I can locate a better resolution image on Sol 353 (or maybe other Sols at this spot). Then I glance left of Blue Blob... what the heck?

OK, I look at a lot of MSL pictures for analysis... I really mean a lot. It is almost a second occupation at this point. I am used to my fusiform gyrus inflicting brutal bouts of pareidolia between my ears... I am still staring at this one... I physically get up, take a bathroom break, get a drink and sit back down to reevaluate what I think I saw. It is still as I saw.. I quickly write down, 569, 755, now with 730 zoom. I am still coming to terms, visually, with what I see. It looks apparently like a small humanoid biped with its right arm sharply bent across the chest area (the arm also casting a shadow down its vertical body from under the elbow). The end of the right arm looks like a cleaved or fingered hand. What would be the head area has again, translucent and reflective qualities. Legs descend from the waist area. How can I describe this to anyone, is what I thought. I move away from it to come back later and re-view the area for a second time.

I move back to look at the gully... still at 730 zoom on my IrfanView.
Just when I thought I had seen weird stuff in the image, I had a jaw dropping moment.

Just to reiterate, I look at a lot of MSL pictures for analysis... I really mean a lot.
I am shocked, truly shocked…
I clearly, absolutely see on the screen, not a skull, but a severed head with a tinge of bluish-purple hue (918,901). And not really severed at that. I can see what would be the bronchial or esophageal entrails (897,890 to 897, 881) laying eviscerated below the neck on the surface. As plain as day (sol), I see an ear (907, 901). I see both eye sockets (925, 903 & 930, 902) and a gaping mouth (920, 892).

I am disturbed by this vision.
I am surely too tired and have descended into a weary pareidolic stupor.

I take a long break and get a snack, disturbed the whole time. I come back and indeed I AM seeing a face on Mars [I]and it certainly isn’t at Cydonia.[/I]
Spinal column with rib processes on its left and right (866, 905), A mass of vertical rib(?) structures casting shadows on the rocks behind at (833, 877)… I often play around with image settings after I find a curio to see new information in the image. I have a stand-by array with my IrfanView Image settings for 'color correction’ of contrast=7, gamma=1.10 and color saturation=255max. This further confirmed my eyesight was fine when I noticed “Blue Blob” & “Blue Head”. Possibly a second Blue Head (upper torso, chest up) with left an right arms akimbo each side of the head (669, 862). I am still working with this image and other versions of the same shot. Trying to get to the .IMG level but NASAView has no zoom capability (at least for my version of the software).

OK, I posted it, so let the circus of trolling, ridiculing, sneering & jeering commence.

NASA did not pick Gale Crater by throwing darts, but they did hit a bull's-eye with their targeting of the MSL mission.

Image links,
Roadmap with annotations
Likely too large to function at ATS…

files.abovetopsecret.com...

Grayscale Inverted and annotated…
files.abovetopsecret.com...
files.abovetopsecret.com...

Thanks...
[email protected]

reply to post by BuzzDengue


Buzz, I took a look at the first link you supplied and could not find the image/s you seem to be referring to. A quick perusal later I found the edited (some would say "doctored") images you have uploaded.

I tire easily of being misled, so can you please give me direct hyperlinks to the original images you refer to in what you have described.

If I understand you correctly you are describing certain (exotic) features on Mars that have been previously noted (see www.abovetopsecret.com... for an example). However, original sources are required to do any checking.

Cheers, Blister.

PS. Does one of the objects you see resemble this:



Won't supply source at this stage.

The following statement:

it looks translucent, gelatinous, almost like a jellyfish, but is almost glows with so much reflected light in contrast to everything else in frame.

Suggests that you have spotted a stealth technology that once every now and then fails to be entirely invisible, especially when "twindling" (see my previous posts for explanation) and possibly the bending of light. Extremely good and amazing tech, but those tell-tale signs are real. Just not understood. Yet.

reply to post by BuzzDengue


I think your interpretation of what can be seen in that photo is not correct.

First of all, if can't see something at 100% zoom then I think you should not give it too much thought. At 100% zoom we can see a single pixel on the screen, so zooming in is not going to show more than we can already see. Yes, a zoom level of 200% or 300% may make things clearer, but we should still be able to see things when going back to 100% zoom.

I looked at all the sites you referred to and it looks like all the small details you saw occupy just one or two pixels, too small to get a real idea of what was photographed, so I think you are letting your imagination take control.

To look at the image I first used the link you provided, but then I downloaded the IMG file and opened it in Photoshop (see this for details) and this is what I got.

Without any changes.


With auto levels.


With levels adjusted manually.


I could see the things you posted about in either the JPG or the IMG images, but I do not agree with your interpretation.

In all the new translucent pixels and decapitated heads (I hate it when that happens), and I recently lost a very good skeleton to pixel distortion, don't forget my little green martian and funbox's new Spoke creature, here just hanging around together taking in the sun and watching the Rover rove:

reply to post by ArMaP


morning

had to do quite a lot of exposure altering to get back your image Buzz , heres a before and after

x5 usage of contrast
x3 usage of exposure
x2 teleport punch
hk,hk,lk,lk
(holdblock) d,d,f,u,run



after



did you use an invert by anychance? the only thing I see asides from the gully is the little grey blob , im having trouble aligning you annotations to the original image

funBox