The 12/21/2012 red herring.

reply to post by ketsuko


I think the story of Babel was very true. Think about pentacost. It was the Anti-Babel event. The Apostles stood before the mixed multitudes from many nations and each tribe heard the gospel spoken in their own individual languages. If God can make people hear a unified language, then He certainly could have scattered it.

reply to post by FlyersFan


The details of her visions are also available for free online. I dont judge her for selling a book, how else do you publish and distribute the contents?

The only reasons I believe her are because her visions follow a mathematical pattern that she is not aware of and never could have known on her own, and her visions follow the dispensational fluidity of the Bible.

Jesus said no man knows the day or hour of His return because He would cut the 7 year tribulation short. That means we can still know within a few days of His return, Revelation and Daniel gives us the countdown from the abomination of desolation.

The "no man knows" clause applies to His return, not the Rapture (not that you believe in the rapture anyways).

reply to post by BELIEVERpriest


If what you say is true, I think the premise behind it could be true. It would possibly fit the evidence of possible ancient nuclear-like blasts or stories of the cataclysm that destroyed Atlantis which is basically the story of an ancient, hyper-advanced civilization (for the time) that was suddenly and strangely destroyed and its people scattered.

If the people of Babel became so advanced and so arrogant that they thought they could place themselves above God ... well, there you go. That is basically what the tower was for - to challenge God. It would explain the scattering of knowledge and widespread knowledge of how to build pyramids that show up all over the world.

ketsuko
reply to post by BELIEVERpriest

 

If what you say is true, I think the premise behind it could be true. It would possibly fit the evidence of possible ancient nuclear-like blasts or stories of the cataclysm that destroyed Atlantis which is basically the story of an ancient, hyper-advanced civilization (for the time) that was suddenly and strangely destroyed and its people scattered.

If the people of Babel became so advanced and so arrogant that they thought they could place themselves above God ... well, there you go. That is basically what the tower was for - to challenge God. It would explain the scattering of knowledge and widespread knowledge of how to build pyramids that show up all over the world.

Bingo!

This is very well written and composed, the research you have been doing is impressive; I doubt many have attempted quite the same approach to the alignments.. Rarely does anyone refer directly to the original text as they should.

I am quite interested in any additional findings you may come across in your study.

Thanks for sharing!

reply to post by EmpathicBandit


Im working on compiling some fresh data. The key is in the contents of Iris Nasreen's visions. They follow the same mathematical pattern that unifies all of this data. I'll follow up with you and the others who are possitive to this message soon.

I was reading another thread where you linked to this one. What caught my eye is that I had a dream/vision where my deceased brother told me to prepare for *my* end, on my 40th birthday. I turn 40 on 9/16/2016.

reply to post by LowTechRedneck


Thats pretty wild man. Are you a believer in Jesus Christ?

Hi BELIEVER!
I just found this thread...fascinating!
I am really impressed with the amount of research that you've obviously done.
Somehow, everything must tie together, and you've done a good job with that!
I have nothing to add at this time, but will be following closely.
S&F
jacygirl

reply to post by jacygirl


Thank you, and its nice to meet you. I havent added to this thread in a while, so Im just thinking about continuing in a new thread. However, check out my other threads, I usually post related information to tie everything together.

reply to post by BELIEVERpriest


Nice to meet you too!
I will check out your other threads, thank you.

Actually I've just mentioned 'this' thread in another one, "What if the World Already Ended Years Ago". I was talking about my theory about the earth and it's cycles....from one 'cleansing' to the next.
I'm very interested in all this, it's like trying to put puzzle pieces together.
I wish some people would at least consider it.

jacygirl

Even if the Mayans did end the calendar in 2016, did they ever say the end date was the end of the world? I don't think so, that was started by people who sold lots of books.

Interesting thread. You have put a lot of effort into this and I will need to look through some of what you have said further. I have heard 2016 before from some other people I want to say Michael Rood(sp?) and David Flynn but I could be wrong. I am subbed to this thread now and will keep monitoring it. Thanks.

a reply to: NihilistSanta

Thanks. This thread is pretty much dead by now, but I will post a sequel to it soon (hopefully). I have more info backed by modern and ancient prophecies that can shed more light on the issue.

My main concern is getting the information out, because my fear is that this is not just another "doom porn" theory. The pattern found in the bible meter and the paleo-hebrew/mayan calendar was a forgotten knowledge up until the passed few years. This same pattern is reflected in the visions described by Iris Nasreen.

I believe Jesus is coming soon, and if you believe that He died for your sins, eternal life is yours. Spreading that message is my purpose at this moment.

originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
This same pattern is reflected in the visions described by Iris Nasreen.

Who is just another hoaxer....

remember this "prediction" of hers?

March 5 in Pennsylvania, USA, Iris Nasreen claims a divine revelation that – "November 11, 2012 will be a gloomy day for whole mankind when dead will be lying on streets like a refuse or trash. That day will be like a roaring sea & darkness with clouds of sorrow, pains & suffering. That day will be a day of darkest darkness for whole mankind."

Of course nothing happened on that day, so yet another prediction failed.

originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
This same pattern is reflected in the visions described by Iris Nasreen.

Who is just another hoaxer....

remember this "prediction" of hers?

March 5 in Pennsylvania, USA, Iris Nasreen claims a divine revelation that – "November 11, 2012 will be a gloomy day for whole mankind when dead will be lying on streets like a refuse or trash. That day will be like a roaring sea & darkness with clouds of sorrow, pains & suffering. That day will be a day of darkest darkness for whole mankind."

Of course nothing happened on that day, so yet another prediction failed.

Actually, Im glad you brought that up. That prophecy was a declaration that mankind had made their decision to reject God. It wasnt a prophecy about any specific event, but about a voting period. The date 11/11/12 opened a 40 day voting window that led into 12/21/2012. From 12/21/12 forward is a 1,365 day countdown to the begining of the 70th week. Things have taken a turn for the worst in America since 11/11/12.

Here is more from her website

gods-messenger.webs.com/year2023.htm

Isaiah 5:20-21

20 Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

21 Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes,

And prudent in their own sight!

From Nov. 11, 2012, mankind will witness the sharp decline of morality as described in Isaiah 5. We are witnessing that how some leaders of Churches and Government are standing to support the lawlessness and unrighteousness.

According to this prophecy, Nov. 11, 2012 was a day of drastic shift for whole mankind, when the spirits of darkness have prevailed deeper on people’s heart, mind and soul. Evil forces take over only when GOD is removed. These evil forces are described in Isaiah 5:26-29. They possess incredible power, strength and swiftness; they are equipped with sharp and fierce weapons of mass destruction. They are like the roaring lions whose prey no one can snatch away. Therefore, mankind will not be delivered from these jubilant forces for their sins are great; except for those who REPENT and humble before the LORD.

The prophetic dreams of August 7 th , August 20 th and October 25 th of 2012, came to pass that I shared in a web page at www.gods-messenger.webs.com under the tab “Most Recent Revelation”.

Prophetic fulfillment of a dream of August 7 2012: (Major) Earthquakes list August 10, 2012 - Earthquake Report

Prophetic fulfillment of a dream of August 20 2012: Strong earthquake strikes northern Myanmar; bridge, gold mine ...

Prophetic fulfillment of a dream of October 25, 2012: Apocalypse N.Y.:Hurricane Sandy kills 32, takes estimated $20 ...

We have witnessed the earthquake on 11-11-12 that hit at a gold mine. Hurricane Sandy hit the gold mine of USA which is a New York City. Each act of GOD conveys a message that we often do not comprehend. It signified uproot of an idol in which people are trusting more than GOD. As we read in Matthew 21:12, “And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the money changers, and the seats of them that sold doves,”

originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
Actually, Im glad you brought that up. That prophecy was a declaration that mankind had made their decision to reject God. It wasnt a prophecy about any specific event,

Is that how followers of a false prophet like her try and explain her failures...... deny it was a actual prophecy!!

a reply to: hellobruce

Well, there was a 6.8 mag earthquake that day that killed 14 people. It wasnt in America, but it hit a gold mine, which had an effect on the economy.

www.disaster-report.com...

But like I said, the prophecy was about a 40 day period of testing. Not one specific event.

Then there were also the on going flash floods in:

Afghanistan (Amu Darya), Argentina, Australia (Murray and Darling), Brazil (Tocantins and Ana Doce Ponte Nova), Chad (N Djamena), China (Mekong, Xi Jiang and Huang He), Colombia (Japura), Democratic Republic of the Congo (Lualaba), Ethiopia, Honduras, India, Indonesia, Iraq (Tigris), Japan, Malaysia, Nigeria (Niger and Benue), Papua New Guinea, Paraguay, Philippines, Senegal, Somalia, South Africa, Sudan (White Nile and Blue Nile), Tajikistan, United States (Mississippi) and Venezuela (Orinoco).

originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
But like I said, the prophecy was about a 40 day period of testing. Not one specific event.

When you follow false prophets you twist what they say to fit any event - She stated 1 day, not 40....

a reply to: hellobruce

This is what she said.

According to this prophecy, Nov. 11, 2012 was a day of drastic shift for whole mankind, when the spirits of darkness have prevailed deeper on people’s heart, mind and soul.

This implies a shift in consiousness.

I was the one who added the 40 in there, because I am applying the prophecy to my research.

Most of her visions follow the same pattern found in my research.

I saw one of my coworker who is a born again Christian came to me in excitement and told me that his wife got pregnant. I replied to him with an authority in spirit that “the day she delivers the baby would be a day of Rapture.” I experienced urgency in my spirit to share the good news of the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ with each and every person who I get in touch or contact with, because His coming is on hand. At the very moment I woke up and saw a time in clock that was 3:21am.

This dream is an alert to the servants of God about the urgency to share the message of the Lord Jesus Christ with the whole world with a serious effort and at full force because the woman is impregnated on February 10 th 2012 to deliver the baby on the Day of Rapture. It means that Lord is telling His people to be ready for His welcome as He is coming very soon. His bride much prepares herself to be adorned to be with her groom which is the Church of God. This dream is a signal for His people to be a likewise virgins who were ready with their lamps filled with oil to go to meet the groom. The oil that virgins stored in their lamps is their passionate and intimate love for their groom. The intimate love relationship is the oil of lamp for the Church of God. Without this love relationship with the Lord God Almighty the Church will be lost and spoiled by the evil of this earth. Church of God needs to get ready to welcome our Lord and Savior – The Lord Jesus Christ and spread His word at every corner of this earth. The Church of God also needs to acknowledge the importance that each and every soul must hear this message of God that Jesus Christ is their Lord and Messiah. We do not have much time left. Wake up and do the work of the Lord. It is urgent to pay attention to this message of the LORD.

In the dream, the pregnant woman represents the Church. When the Rapture happens, the Church will give birth to Israel's 70th week.

From 2/10/2012 to 9/16/2016, is 1680 days. That is 16x105 (105 is prevalent in my research), or also 6 cycles of 280 days. Six representing mankind and 280 days is the ideal human gestational period.

You can also say that 1680 = 112x15, but I dont know if 15 is important. However, 112 days is the span of time between Pentacost and the Feast of Trimpets in the Paleo-Hebrew calendar.

As far as I know, these numbers are my findings, so there is no reason why Iris would know to pick these specific dates. I discovered her after my initial findings, so its not like Im twisting the numerical data.

Let me ask you, are you a believer in Jesus Christ?