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ColCurious
Your vital need for food (demand) doesn't really decline until you're dead (starved).
And what about all the "non-elitist-corporate"-producers in the food industry?
Middle class and small businesses can hardly compete with the predatory prices of big corporations as it is... you want them to starve too?
Lower wages are not the solution... higher purchasing power overall (via lower taxation) is.
ETA:
I forgot to say I'm not a fan of statutory minimum wages at all.edit on 25-12-2013 by ColCurious because: (no reason given)
an astounding 44 million Americans live in poverty, This is the highest number ever and a jump of 4 million from the prior year.
Inequality in the country is getting ever more extreme: The richest 1% of the country owns a third of the country's assets and the poorer 50% owns less than 2.5%.
Well-paid manufacturing jobs are getting shipped overseas. Unemployment is 10%. Real wages are stagnant. Job security is a relic of the past. The "middle class" is disappearing. Americans who want to work are often forced to take poorly paid "McJobs" in the service industry that no one aspires to, that don't produce anything, and that won't lead anywhere.
Meanwhile, one of the world's largest corporations is still on a roll.
Walmart's global sales crossed $400 billion last year. Its profits exceeded $15 billion. Its market value--$200 billion--has weathered the Great Recession and market crash and remains near all-time highs.
Walmart employs an astounding 2.1 million people. In the United States alone, the company employs 1.4 million people. This is a staggering 1% of the U.S.'s 140 million working population.
Walmart, in other words, matters. Its payrolls, and its pay, move the needle.
And right now, many people argue, Walmart is very much part of the problem.
The average Walmart "associate," Wake Up Walmart reports, makes $11.75 an hour. That's $20,744 per year. Those wages are slightly below the national average for retail employees, which is $12.04 an hour. They also produce annual earnings that, in a one-earner household, are below the $22,000 poverty line.
defcon5
These big corps are the scum of the earth, IMHO, and until someone stands up to them, nothing will get better.
Kali74
The cost of living isn't really tied to the minimum wage but to the value of the dollar. Raising the minimum wage would have very little effect on the cost of living if "job creators" were to be honest about it, which they wouldn't. But people would rather say that the working poor are greedy than say the bosses are greedy.
Rezlooper
I want the middle class and the small businessman to thrive as they once did in this country. I would prefer to see the lower class begin spending their hard-earned dollars with small business rather than the Wal-marts of America.
ImaFungi
Youre wrong
period
ColCurious
reply to post by Rezlooper
Rezlooper
I want the middle class and the small businessman to thrive as they once did in this country. I would prefer to see the lower class begin spending their hard-earned dollars with small business rather than the Wal-marts of America.
And I proposed a way to get there... is it me or is everybody just reading my posts wrong?!
(serious question because I had alooooot of Weihnachtspunsch!)edit on 25-12-2013 by ColCurious because: (no reason given)
ColCurious
reply to post by Rezlooper
OR...
reduce corporate tax rates and abolish VAT for basic goods = more people can be employed, get payed better AND can actually afford the goods they need for their money = create real aggregate demand AND a higher average QoL in the process.
MountainEnigma
Will have to ponder that just a bit. It seems the value of the dollar changes on a whim - because of what people perceive about the dollar from foreign countries/federal reserve/international regulatory/etc.
MountainEnigma
Just like how oil and stock market prices fluctuate because of perceived issues in the middle east. The Market anticipates potential issues with product quantities because of problems in the ME, so they adjust prices ahead of the final outcome. Each time they do that, prices go up, so more often than not, it is the consumers that are losing out and NOT the companies because they raised prices in anticipation of problems, but may not have had any problems.
TheRegal
What the hell planet do you live on?
This has been tried over and over again. Giving corporate tax breaks does NOT increase their employment rates. They just shove more money in their own pockets and continue employing the same amount of people.
Take a step into reality.
Your suggestion is about 20 years out of date.
"Trickle down" economics is bullsh%&! at best. It doesn't work.
I’ve always been very conservative in my view points. I’ve always been a capitalist. I always held true to the idea that those who work hard and hold on to the dream will succeed
Should we raise the minimum wage (...). No. I believe we should lower it. You’re laughing right now because how crazy this sounds,(---).