Noah's Ark Has Been Found. Why Are They Keeping Us In The Dark?

AfterInfinity
reply to post by ElohimJD

 

Oh, cool. So it was a set up from the beginning. It's good to know that God never intended for us to successfully do a good job of managing ourselves. Of course, given how narcissistic he has demonstrated himself to be (according to the Bible) it makes sense that he would want to rig the game before it ever started. The trick was to convince us that we did it to ourselves. Welcome to God's Carnival. Ta-da!

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In time you will understand.

In short, the only way to prove, through experience (the best teacher) to beings capable of free thought (make your own conclusions) that mankind's way of life is naturally evil (what seems right to a man), is to allow them to make choices according to the way they see it, and then reap the consequences of those choices (death/the world around you).

What you fail to take into account is that God's plan continues on, and all who have failed in this age to produce Godly Agape, by instead following what seems right to your own mind, will have life again (second life); in a later age, where all mankind lives according to God's ways (Great White Thrown), rather than what seems right to a man presently; and then reap the consequences of those choices (eternal life).

By this manner will you know beyond the shadow of a doubt what "my way" leads to (selfishness, pain, suffering and death) and what "God's way" leads to (selflessness, joy, healing and life) by living 2 lifetimes in 2 ages designed for this understanding, once according to your way, and once according to God's. Only by this way, can we make a fair and just choice to repent of my way of thinking and love God's. This present age is NOT the age for the salvation of mankind, that is the Great White Thrown.

The only way to truly prove to your child that touching a stove will burn them is for them to touch the stove themselves and experience the feeling. Then they will not touch the stove again by their own will (repent of our way and embrace God's way).

The trick (by Satan) was convincing you God did this to you, when really the world we live in is a result of choices by the minds of men for their own benefit at the expense of other men in vanity.

God Bless,

FlyersFan
reply to post by ElohimJD

 

There isn't enough time from the time of Noahs Ark for all the people on this planet ... and all the different strains of DNA and race ... to have evolved. It's impossible. And with only three pair of reproducing humans ... RELATED humans ... it simply can't happen.

I will simply add the caveat:

according to presently observed understanding of the rate and degree of mutation/adaptation in human DNA.

To claim that rate as a constant is an assumption.

God Bless,

NuclearPaul

Imagewerx
It's 6000 feet above sea level,and even if all the ice in the world had melted and raised the sea level by 200 feet at the most,there just wouldn't be enough water elsewhere in the world to deposit a ship that far up a mountain.

But what if the tides went haywire and most of the water ended up on one side of the planet?

Have no idea if this is true or not, just thought I'd add a theory to the discussion.

The only way the tides could go haywire is because of an intense gravitational pull,such as could be caused by a very large asteroid passing in VERY close proximity to the earth.
This would have other side effects though.As well as the unusually high tides,we'd get earthquakes like we'd never seen before as it tried to tear our planet apart.
Also something of this size would have been easily visible to every single person on the planet,even those with bad eyesight.Something of this significance would have been recorded in the legends and folklore of every single race on earth,unless of course they all brushed it to one side and said "Meh,it's probably swamp gas,a Chinese lantern,the planet Venus or an Amazon drone helicopter delivering someone's christmas presents" and just forgot about it (LOL!).

Anyone seeking (yet another) new angle on the Ark may find it worthwhile to enter the name Porcher Taylor in their favourite search box . Taylor had learned of the photos of the Ark taken by USAF spy planes flying over Ararat on their way back from incursions over the Soviet Union, and asked the CIA to release them. The CIA maintained it didn't have any, Taylor found out they refer to it as "the Ararat anomaly" so he amended his request and this time won the release of several photos showing what appears to be a large wooden ship near the summit.

This is emphatically nothing to do with that oval mud pie featured here, the pilots referred to it as a "500 foot box car". There are other photos taken from very high altitude planes but I haven't managed to locate any.

The movie looks cool and entertaining anyways.I believe the story is true myself.They had the capability to build a ship like this.Also 3/4 of the earth is under water and people whine and fight that no floods ever happened.Science can be embarrassing when it lacks common sense.

ghostfacekilah00
Ron Wyatt also found the actual site of the Exodus crossing, complete with commemorative markers placed by King Solomon and Egyptian chariot parts from the dynasty of Moses' time on the floor of the sea, where there happens to be an underwater land bridge. He found the real Mt. Sinai, which is in Saudi Arabia surrounded by a military fence as well as stone altars with carvings as described in the Bible and the huge rock that Moses split in half and water poured out of which inexplicably has channels eroded by flowing water at its base. Mt. Sinai is charred black at the top by fire (he snuck over the fence to analyze the rocks), though nothing flammable is found there and no such feature exists in the surrounding area. He found Sodom and Gemorah (spelling could be wrong) which had been devastated by falling rocks of sulpher which completely covered both cities in inexplicable quantities, especially for the area, and had even melted the rock there. The sulpher was analyzed in a lab, which showed the it to be more pure and hot burning than any natural sulpher. Wyatt found the Arc of the Covenant deep within an underground cave system in Jerusalem. Blood had dripped from the surface through a crack and landed on the mercy seat of the arc, which had been uncovered so that the blood actually landed where the Jewish high priest used to sprinkle lamb's blood for the sins of Israel. Wyatt found that the crack started at the base of where he believes Jesus' cross was placed (there was an Earthquake at the moment of Jesus' death that split the Earth and destroyed the Jewish holy of holies). Wyatt had the blood analyzed by Israeli scientists, who found that the blood was still alive and contained only 24 chromosomes, 23 from the mother and one Y from a father. Apparently an angel told Wyatt that the world would not know of his discoveries until "the antichrist institutes the Sunday law." Those who won't believe will have no excuse. God is good.

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I'm not sure where to even start with the above. No. Just... no. Go away and do some basic research please!

TDawgRex
reply to post by Lazarus Short

 

I think that there may have been more than one Ark since the same story of the great deluge is scattered all over the earth. But out of many, here is possible proof of one. (I actually believe that it may be)

I wonder how the survivors of the human race would describe Yellowstone blowing 7000 years later and the struggle for survival. I'm pretty sure the face of earth would have changed a bit over that time as well.

Please cite the reference that Yellowstone blew it's cork 7000 yrs. after Noah and entourage landed on dry land. I'm curious...

Ohio_Ron

TDawgRex
reply to post by Lazarus Short

 

I think that there may have been more than one Ark since the same story of the great deluge is scattered all over the earth. But out of many, here is possible proof of one. (I actually believe that it may be)

I wonder how the survivors of the human race would describe Yellowstone blowing 7000 years later and the struggle for survival. I'm pretty sure the face of earth would have changed a bit over that time as well.

Please cite the reference that Yellowstone blew it's cork 7000 yrs. after Noah and entourage landed on dry land. I'm curious...

That's a analogy, nothing more.

Kind of a what if.

ElohimJD

FlyersFan
reply to post by ElohimJD

 

There isn't enough time from the time of Noahs Ark for all the people on this planet ... and all the different strains of DNA and race ... to have evolved. It's impossible. And with only three pair of reproducing humans ... RELATED humans ... it simply can't happen.

I will simply add the caveat:

according to presently observed understanding of the rate and degree of mutation/adaptation in human DNA.

To claim that rate as a constant is an assumption.

God Bless,

Out of curiosity, when do you believe the flood took place?

I believe in Noah and the Ark, but that formation is not it.
This however is very interesting.

Link Too Video of Timbers Found
Found Timbers Tested About 5000 Years Old

The remnants of the Ark are still there in the way of Old Timbers

Just for fun here.

The "thing" is at an altitude of 6,300 ft.

The bible says it rained for 40 days and 40 nights.

There is 24 hours in a day.

40x24=960 hours

6,300÷960=6.5625 feet per hour

It would have to rain 6.5 feet an hour for the water to make it to 6,300 feet in 40 days.

I hope my math is correct, please correct me if i'm wrong.

So it rained 6.5 feet per hour for 40 days.

Where did all that moisture come from?

Where did all that moisture go?

Next i'll let you look up the most rainfall ever recorded in history. While your at it look up the climate for the time.

There is no room for logic in religion.

This is not the arc, math and common since pretty much takes care of it.

reply to post by pauladaballa777


I am very aware of the con man that is Ron Wyatt.

I asked for evidence, of which he always seems to fall short of in his 'discoveries'.

ElohimJD

FlyersFan
reply to post by ElohimJD

 

There isn't enough time from the time of Noahs Ark for all the people on this planet ... and all the different strains of DNA and race ... to have evolved. It's impossible. And with only three pair of reproducing humans ... RELATED humans ... it simply can't happen.

I will simply add the caveat:

according to presently observed understanding of the rate and degree of mutation/adaptation in human DNA.

To claim that rate as a constant is an assumption.

God Bless,

Not as big as an assumption as "god did it" though is it?
That has to be the mother of all assumptions (or should that be father?).

The problem is there is big money attached to the search for Noah's Ark. Over the years there must have been at least half a dozen of the things found by various charlatans and pseudo-scientists. This is just another.

Various Evangelical groups, mostly in the US, fund a lot of expeditions to the Holy Land to find 'proof' of God, so there are as a result a lot of snake-oil salesmen taking this money, going out there, and low and behold they find 'proof'. Only it's not. And as with this natural rock formation, they just make a whole bunch of stuff up.

Painterz
The problem is there is big money attached to the search for Noah's Ark. Over the years there must have been at least half a dozen of the things found by various charlatans and pseudo-scientists. This is just another.

Various Evangelical groups, mostly in the US, fund a lot of expeditions to the Holy Land to find 'proof' of God, so there are as a result a lot of snake-oil salesmen taking this money, going out there, and low and behold they find 'proof'. Only it's not. And as with this natural rock formation, they just make a whole bunch of stuff up.

Not just looking for it.The visitor centre at the site named in this thread earns quite a bit of money,as do all the tourists who visit it and the region in general just to the visit the alleged remains of Noahs Ark.
Ron Wyatt as an amateur archeologist managed to find "proof" that completely evaded even the professional archeologists for lots and lots of years,and this for just about every famous "story" in the bible.Also we have to ask that as an amateur,how was he allowed to excavate at these sites as I'm pretty sure they only allow registered and professional archeologists to do this?

The greatest trick god ever pulled was convincing people he exists, and those who helped god grew fantastically rich in the process, a certain little area in Rome springs to mind, I wonder what the 400 tons of ciff-bronze is worth? the four pillars holding up the canopy over the high altar?

reply to post by freakjive


This story is at least 10 years old..

cheers

For all the people who keep questioning the amount of rainfall there is a theory out there that a water canopy surrounded the earth at one time. This canopy kept all of the earth at the same constant temperature and it's protection from the sun and increased oxygen levels and allowed humans to live for hundreds of years. During the flood event the canopy fell to earth, causing a one time massive flood which then drained into the earth causing springs and reservoirs and lakes. Additionally after the flood the human life span decreased to less then 120 years. I'm not saying I subscribe to this idea but the theory is out there.

shauny
reply to post by freakjive

 

This story is at least 10 years old..

cheers

Revived just in time for the upcoming Russell Crowe movie "Noah". Hmm

jjkenobi
For all the people who keep questioning the amount of rainfall there is a theory out there that a water canopy surrounded the earth at one time. This canopy kept all of the earth at the same constant temperature and it's protection from the sun and increased oxygen levels and allowed humans to live for hundreds of years. During the flood event the canopy fell to earth, causing a one time massive flood which then drained into the earth causing springs and reservoirs and lakes. Additionally after the flood the human life span decreased to less then 120 years. I'm not saying I subscribe to this idea but the theory is out there.

That's not a theory, it's an hypothesis.
And a very poor one at that.
In fact, I'd go as far to say that it's ridiculous.
Just my opinion though...