Helicopter pilot confronted by UFO fleet

jhn7537
Very interesting story, OP... I got the feeling that this story has the makings of great debate and discussion for all the UFO enthusiast on ATS and around the world.. I'm curious to see if anyone will be able to debunk the pic/story. Gotta love a good UFO story!!!

S&F

I'm late to the party so perhaps they're here somewhere? Cause I didn't see the usual suspects who wait for the ufo news ticker and respond immediately. Within the first post or two. Hmm, oddly silent other than the novice riffraff debunkers.

reply to post by FlySolo


They're loosing ground. ...

reply to post by 0bserver1


No doubt with 102 flags. Usually these topics get about 4-5 average. And it is with this we can easily pick out the agenda of those who habitually debunk but aren't here. I would LOVE to call them out right now and drop names but I'll get reprimanded for that.

NoRulesAllowed
If we had real AIRCRAFT flying and someone would have taken a photo of some tanker action or aircraft formation, I am pretty sure we would have a LARGE (and not ridiculous tiny and blurry pic like here)....with lots of details of the aircraft and with some luck even the pilot waving from the w-i-n-d-o-w.

OF COURSE, *here* we have absolutely nothing: We have a tiny and rather blurry picture and some "fly-sh!t" on it.

Obviously...the UFOs must find a way to always, always appear as "fly-sh!t" in a best case scenario.

I mean, wouldn't it be horrible if we for once had an UFO photographs with an incredible detailed picture of an UFO?
Or...at least that the photograph ITSELF would be up-to-par quality-wise as some baby pictures taken at the last birthday party. OBVIOUSLY...both things don't go together well with UFOs....

Also....reading the account of the OP...I was startled immediately reading that the alleged pilot said "craft"....how does he know it was "craft"? BIG, BIG red flag here if you see something unidentified and immediately make it into "a craft". This alone (for me personally) entirely discredits the witness and makes the case a hoax.

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AAAANNNNNDDDD:..it's coming from C2C....nuff said...

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Here's the thing, or a few things.

1. Human built aircraft are not going as fast, they do not wobble as they fly, they do not try to get away as you run across them, in fact you always know they are there as you are notified of any close, so yes the pictures of them are better.

2. The pilot and whoever else was with him in as "we" but looks like will not come forward because people will call it bull...SAW these close enough to say craft but did not get the picture until they are speeding off as they MOVE FAST.

3. I saw a video on here somewhere the other day of a saucer shaped craft on the ground, clear and perfect with little aliens outside. Getting a clear shot gets the same response except most are now...to clear...to sharp...to perfect my "spidey senses" say no way not real.

4. I can tell you that is a UFO went over my place right now I SAW it clear and perfect..run get camera...and I run out and get a picture like the OP's photo no one believe me no matter what I saw. So there it is, no one will believe unless they see it themselves, if they have some little gray guys come forward on TV and say yup we have been working here with your governments for years we would say setup... bull....

I would not report on here anything I saw or photographed for sure, no fun being thrown in the Hoax bin, called a LOL (Ludicrous Online Lier) or generally made to feel like dirt.

Sarah Palin's flying monkeys?

Ranong
Sarah Palin's flying monkeys?

I heard those had been locked up, she was using them to spy on Russia.

Char-Lee

saiyankev
so there are 8dots, wheres this helicopter you spoke of? ... i doubt its 1 of those round dots..

The photo is taken from INSIDE the helicopter.

that does make sense how they got the photo.. okay my bad, didn't think about that

reply to post by FlySolo


Maybe they have been visited and are now believers themself? So we can say it passed the UFO amendment ?

FlySolo
reply to post by 0bserver1

 

No doubt with 102 flags. Usually these topics get about 4-5 average. And it is with this we can easily pick out the agenda of those who habitually debunk but aren't here. I would LOVE to call them out right now and drop names but I'll get reprimanded for that.

I don't get it... I often comment on videos or pictures if I feel they have a mundane explanation or that they are hoaxed. I have no explanation for this picture and I'm not an expert at photo analysis so I haven't tried to "debunk" it. It really is an interesting photo and if the guy who took it is telling the truth, it is one of the more remarkable events in ufology's history. What exactly are you trying to imply here?

reply to post by Char-Lee


The video of the landed craft with aliens outside of it was CLEARLY fake. A poorly done fake at that.

DeadSeraph
reply to post by Char-Lee

 

The video of the landed craft with aliens outside of it was CLEARLY fake. A poorly done fake at that.

Maybe to persons who know about fakes but anyway it WAS clear.

" I am a pilot with 33 years experience and this was the first time I've seen a UFO and just happened to be a total of 8 unidentified craft. They do exist! --John Cox"

Yes, obviously UFO's exist. UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT. The question is, "are they crafts engineered by humans or something else?"
Without better evidence than one photo of objects in the very distant sky, I have to believe this is a squadron of drones.
Probably a more interesting, and poignant, question is, "who do they belong to? USA, RUSSIA, or CHINA?"
As a side note I will mention that I have twice been witness to UFO's which I believe to have been otherworldly. Please don't blindly attack me as being closed minded.

Unity_99
Actually, after reading some of these posts all I can do is shake my head. Unbelievable!

Here is a credible human being, one of the many pilots, police officers, military, high ranking military, even your president saw one......, or several, numerous testimonies. He is a pass.

And he took a picture of what he saw, but only caught one of them, he saw a great deal more. As a pilot he knows its not all of what you listed so far.

They're UFO's!!!! PERIOD!!!

How do we know he is a "credible human being" (that's almost an oxymoron lol)?Why though? Because he's a pilot? Pilots aren't capable of making hoaxes.., they are just human beings after all. He puts his pants on one leg at a time as the saying goes.

Whats up with the co-pilot, why didn't he take the pic, and if he did, why could he get off more than one?

I'll agree these are UFO's because technically they can't be identified mainly because the picture is crap. But going from there to saying they are "craft(s)" is a HUGE leap, then from that to saying they are craft being flown by E.T's is another HUGE leap. which makes this a "HUGE LEAP squared". Sorry I can't take one or two peoples word alone (because the picture is worthless) people that I don't know from Adam mind you, just because one has a license to operate a helicopter.

We've seen lies and hoaxes perpetrated by Presidents, DR's , Scientists, Reporters, Pilots, LEO's, ect. You name the career field and someone from that field has lied, cheated and/or hoaxed something.

No one is, nor should be above suspicion.

reply to post by chiefsmom


The 4th Kind was a hoax, and a bad one at that... Just a little heads up when it comes to movies based in Alaska, you will know they are fake right off the bat if they have the following things:

1. County's
   
2. Sheriffs
   
3. Trees above the arctic circle
   
4. Mountains passed the arctic circle
   
5. Roads to everywhere in the arctic connecting all the villages
   

What we have are:

1. Alaska State Troopers and Village Safety Officers
   
2. Municipalities and Boroughs
   
3. Tundra and tundra
   
4. Airplanes to fly everywhere
   

I hope that helps clarify spotting a fake "real story" involving Alaska.

I personally cannot stand people who claim these things as true and cannot be bothered to check their fact...

Grim

If i were to spot some unknown objects or "craft" where I am 100% convinced that I saw something extraordinary which defies any explanation and warrants more investigation...

C2C WOULD BE THE LAST PLACE ON EARTH I would contact in regards to my encounter.

Why would anyone who had such an encounter call in at C2C where 90% of stuff featured there is hoaxes and where the audience (not all of them of course) is non-critical and naive to the largest part?

Would he (the host) squeeze your exciting sighting of something really extraordinary between "Bigfoot" and "Jesus on a slice of bread".....and do you think this would give the case (or the person reporting) ANY credibility whatsoever?

(Aside from the fact that today there are a zillions ways to contact "main stream media", MUFON, social media, for god's sake Youtube even, call your local radio station or news channel or tell about it on various forums, the serious ones and even "conspiracy forums", doesn't matter.)

reply to post by DeadSeraph


I wasn't specifically referring to you but it's interesting you felt the need to respond.

if I feel they have a mundane explanation

This is when the regulars like to come and shred threads. When they "think" there's a mundane explanation for an easy out. What's the saying again? When the going gets tough, deny deny deny with a mundane explanation.

It really is an interesting photo and if the guy who took it is telling the truth, it is one of the more remarkable events in ufology's history.

This is what separates skeptics from debunkers. You sound like you have an opened mind and are willing to negotiate. Debunkers can't do that, that's why they're not here.

Jefferton
A smart person never takes one photo as proof of anything.

The pilot said he was only able to get off one photo because they were moving to fast in case you didn't catch that in the OP!

I have looked and found no evidence this John Cox exists or said these things. Can anyone prove he exists and said this?

Wow very interesting picture. I grow tired of the whole "it's smudge on the windshield. " or " its birds flying. " it's ok to be skeptical but if your gonna try to debunk please come up with a logical/ plausible explanation.

This is a pilot of 33 years (I believe) I think he would know if it was just birds flying or marks on his windshield. Rather insulting if you ask me.

has anyone found the original (full size) pic anywhere?