The "I don't care" disposition--Is that gonna solve anything?

So, I've come to realize that due to the overstimulation of emotional reactions with events like 9/11 and the Boston Bombing, along with zillions of school shootings, people whine, grovel, and bitch about how evil bombs and guns are. Those people are being emotionally manipulated into accepting new wars and restricting laws.

You know that much, right? You've all heard me say stuff like that before.

But stay tuned, here's the kicker.

Those same brainwashed people like to call people like me, and close loved ones in my friend group, evil, monsters, and heartless simply because we don't burst into tears every time we hear about 9/11, because I question the official story, or if any of us dare to say "I don't care."

Trust me, my friends. You know who you are.

I hate it JUST as much as you do.

Being ridiculed and judged by people with so little cognitive thought they are barely comparable to the minds of earthworms. Useless, brainwashed little drones who don't deserve the organs functioning within their bodies.

But there's something I want to say about the "alternative" community.

By the alternative community, I mean my close friends, those who are "awake," and those of you on ATS who say cold, screwed-up things just for shock value.

Fighting ignorance with hate is a two-sided genocide.

Rejecting a broken world with apathy is lame, and you're basically just waiting to die.

What I'm getting at is, EVERYONE around me says "I don't care."

Trust me, I feel you, and I'm not criticizing any of you for it.

I've felt the exact same way, about a lot of things.

But think about this.

If you don't care about anything, what right do you have to HAVE anything?

What right do you have to have loved ones? Or families?

You shouldn't let emotions control you, true, but the solution is NOT to remove emotions and human compassion altogether, just because the world is so jaded that its hard to distinguish right from wrong, what ought to be cared for and what ought to be dismissed, etc.

It may sound corny, but all you have to do is follow your heart.

If there's anything or anyone in the world that you love more than anything in the world, then you DO care. You care a lot more than you want yourself to see, because its a terrifying feeling, caring about broken things or people.

I have a lot--I mean a LOT--of people in mind while typing this.

DON'T fool yourself into thinking you don't care about anything just because caring is a hard thing to do.

It physically hurts when my loved ones wanna cut off from the world, because they're so frustrated with it, because they hate it, because they feel helpless, and so on.

ATSers are guilty of this too.

Come on, guys. They call it "awake" for a reason.

Its not a title you get just by having an ATS membership.

You earn it by thinking and growing, not shutting off and being critical and angry at everything.

Truly WAKE up.

reply to post by XxNightAngelusxX


Hello friend.
As of lately... All I want is to love and push out positive energy. I do hope more people can realize and understand that all we truly need is love... Imo..

I feel if we had more love and compassion this world would be better... But we don't.. So I push out the love and compassion I do have....my eyes have been opened to how things really work it seems...I just still push out as much love as I can...

Peace and love to you friend ~~~>>>

I say worry not of the things that I can't control...

** sorry if I went way off topic???it's just the first thoughts that came to my head after I read what you wrote..

reply to post by natalia


You weren't off topic, don't worry.

I feel the same way... I just don't think a lot of my loved ones would respond very well to such a *positive* outlook. I guess none of us really lean towards that kind of mindset.

Kinda hard to try doing the right thing when you don't keep a positive mentality...

Guess that's what's frustrating me.

Everyone seems so hellbent against love and compassion, on both sides of society, mainstream and alternative.

Its kinda infuriating, but after a certain point, it just becomes pitiful.

OP, kind of sounds like you are pissed because not every one cares about the same stuff as you do.

Now you could show someone the bests 9/11 truth documentary out there and after they could quite simply say to you "i dont care". But that is nothing for you to get annoyed about.

I mean I dont care about who is going to win the FA cup this year but quite a lot of people really do care about that, and some of these people probably could not even tell you what 9/11 was, because they dont care about it, but i bet they could tell you everyone who has won the FA cup since 9/11.

And some people really do care about 9/11 but just dont happen to believe the conspiracies does not mean that you are any more or less awake than they are just that you believe different things and have different interpretations of what happened.

I hate the whole "I am awake" crap, i find it intellectually elitist, its like your saying to me, I am better than you because I believe the NWO exists and if you dont know that then you just dont know enough to be awake.

Sometimes " I don't care" is another way of saying, " I don't want to talk about it." Perhaps your friends are quite comfy in their own little world ,that doesn't shatter their bubble of consumerism and belief that the American dream still exists and that Jesus saves us all. (Figure of speech, not to offend). I suggest not wasting time trying to wake people up. Follow your own path to truth,and eventually you meet like minded people. You are using up energy on those who have no interest. Instead of asking why they don't care, ask yourself why you are trying to make them.

reply to post by OtherSideOfTheCoin

OP, kind of sounds like you are pissed because not every one cares about the same stuff as you do.

No, see... I try VERY hard not to be this way.

ATS has given me a few lessons in this, too.

Everyone is gonna feel that way a little bit, humans are all a bit different, therefore a bit bias... but being told monumental lies by the government is something we're all obliged to care about.

Saying you "don't care" about all the people dying and lies being told, people being killed by cops, laws being passed, to me, shows a lack of compassion. AND some strange, unhealthy sense of denial and apathy.

The rest of your post, I can understand.

AccessDenied
Sometimes " I don't care" is another way of saying, " I don't want to talk about it." Perhaps your friends are quite comfy in their own little world ,that doesn't shatter their bubble of consumerism and belief that the American dream still exists and that Jesus saves us all. (Figure of speech, not to offend). I suggest not wasting time trying to wake people up. Follow your own path to truth,and eventually you meet like minded people. You are using up energy on those who have no interest. Instead of asking why they don't care, ask yourself why you are trying to make them.

I feels ya, but I can't let it go.

I'm extremely close to some of these people.

Its maddening.

I'm very well aware that you only hold a certain amount of influence on people's minds, but I'm still gonna try. Its not something I'm comfortable with sitting and watching.

reply to post by XxNightAngelusxX




From my observation and experience....

There are plenty of ATS members that CARE but their main method of expression is to post on ATS or other social media.

For all the good that does they might as well NOT CARE!!!

The www. as an information tool is all well and good but emotion without positive ACTION is just mental masturbation.

If you really care about Change; get up off your ass and do something tangible. Electrons in a data stream doesn't' count.

olaru12
reply to post by XxNightAngelusxX

 

From my observation and experience....

There are plenty of ATS members that CARE but their main method of expression is to post on ATS or other social media.

For all the good that does they might as well NOT CARE!!!

The www. as an information tool is all well and good but emotion without positive ACTION is just mental masturbation.

If you really care about Change; get up off your ass and do something tangible. Electrons in a data stream doesn't' count.

edit on 10-12-2013 by olaru12 because: (no reason given)

Do you know how many weeks its been since I've actively posted on ATS until today?

Get off YOUR ass and stop telling me something I already know.

I call hypocrasy~

I don't know if i am "awake" or not. I do know that I think critically as an obsession, and see through most charades fairly easily. So much so that interpersonal relationships are hard for me, as the falseness inherent in social interactions is nauseatingly shallow.

That said, your OP is a complete disaster once you get to your premise. "Awake" is just a catch term people ascribe to themselves in an effort to prop up some sort of superiority complex.

XxNightAngelusxX

olaru12
reply to post by XxNightAngelusxX

 

From my observation and experience....

There are plenty of ATS members that CARE but their main method of expression is to post on ATS or other social media.

For all the good that does they might as well NOT CARE!!!

The www. as an information tool is all well and good but emotion without positive ACTION is just mental masturbation.

If you really care about Change; get up off your ass and do something tangible. Electrons in a data stream doesn't' count.

edit on 10-12-2013 by olaru12 because: (no reason given)

Do you know how many weeks its been since I've actively posted on ATS until today?

Get off YOUR ass and stop telling me something I already know.

I call hypocrasy~

I would say this post is evidence of what I assert.

XxNightAngelusxX

olaru12
reply to post by XxNightAngelusxX

 

From my observation and experience....

There are plenty of ATS members that CARE but their main method of expression is to post on ATS or other social media.

For all the good that does they might as well NOT CARE!!!

The www. as an information tool is all well and good but emotion without positive ACTION is just mental masturbation.

If you really care about Change; get up off your ass and do something tangible. Electrons in a data stream doesn't' count.

edit on 10-12-2013 by olaru12 because: (no reason given)

Do you know how many weeks its been since I've actively posted on ATS until today?

Get off YOUR ass and stop telling me something I already know.

I call hypocrasy~

You can call it what ever you want. I'm working in my office now, editing a documentary about women being raped in the military. I also have a crew for public access TV covering a police shooting of an unarmed man. I'm working for change. Lighten up amigo; my post wasn't a personal attack on you....just a general statement.

Everyone;

That said, your OP is a complete disaster once you get to your premise. "Awake" is just a catch term people ascribe to themselves in an effort to prop up some sort of superiority complex.

It CAN be, but anything with any kind of meaning behind it can be used this way.

I think "awake" should correspond to "enlightenment," spiritual and mental balance, chakras, seeing through illusion and bs, and realizing the more you learn, the more you realize how little you know, so on and so on... which is the opposite of what you're claiming it is here.

Point being, I'm not trying to put myself on a throne, and you're misinterpreting the OP's purpose morbidly by assuming that I am.

I do know that I think critically as an obsession, and see through most charades fairly easily. So much so that interpersonal relationships are hard for me, as the falseness inherent in social interactions is nauseatingly shallow.

That's weird, because the single word "awake" threw you off completely, making you think I have some kind of God complex. Basically what you expressed in this paragraph is what I consider "awake" to be.

I would say this post is evidence of what I assert.

Really? Because I haven't been online in weeks due to a recent engagement and living transitions, I'm somehow claiming to be "awake" and better than everyone else?

Its about impossible to try making a point on ATS without somehow becoming a bigot...

You can call it what ever you want. I'm working in my office now, editing a documentary about women being raped in the military. I also have a crew for public access TV covering a police shooting of an unarmed man. I'm working for change. Lighten up amigo; my post wasn't a personal attack on you....just a general statement.

I thought electrons in a data stream didn't count?

Kidding.

In all seriousness, no hard feelings.

reply to post by XxNightAngelusxX


Good. That makes you stronger. "No hard feelings" during discourse should be a requirement for adulthood.

I am not saying you have a God complex. But consider the possibilities of what I did say. From one "awake" person to another. LOL

bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by XxNightAngelusxX

 

Good. That makes you stronger.

"No hard feelings" during discourse should be a requirement for adulthood.

I am not saying you have a God complex. But consider the possibilities of what I did say.

From one "awake" person to another. LOL

Eh... all possibilities are considered in my head.

That's... probably what makes me this way.

No, but... for all seriousness, I getcha.

reply to post by XxNightAngelusxX


From my experience when someone says "I don't care" what they are actually saying is "I don't know what I can do!?" And I have seen many fall by the way side because, after years of digging, they have realised that when you dig all you get is dirty.

What can be done?

It's usually the last question most theorists ask before quietly slipping back into society.

People don't care because they are powerless, because they are afraid and because it's much more simple.

I find it sad too, but I also understand why people that don't care.
I too am, alone, powerless.

If ever, one day, there is something to be done, of course I will act for what I feel is right and good.
Your friends might feel about the same way.

I don't mind talking about how, we the people, should take the power and resources from the evil banks, corporations, etc...because really, we should do so but it's infuriating to only talk about it and not act on it.
Maybe one day, before it's too late, people will have enough of this rigged system and work towards a better world.

If the whole planet would stop thinking about only profits and work together, in 100 years we could have cured almost every diseases, we would have unlimited clean energy, no one would starve and we would be starting to colonize our solar system.

I s'pose so.

I'm in the same boat as them, as far as "not knowing what to do."

reply to post by XxNightAngelusxX


Nothing gets solved unless all three parties agree. Here's a situation:

Someone kills someone that person goes to death row and gets executed. The person killed might not have wanted that person to die. Infact the victim will never get anything out of the situation when it comes to our world.

So left with that it's unsolvable. For the family that lost that loved one that person will never be replaced in there hearts. So even after the murderer dies they may say the morally correct think to say. Well we found closure b/s that everyone happily swallows.

And then there is karma!

Maybe being executed wasn't enough and in the next life that murderer is still suffering. So while the past event might have been solved to atleast someone most likely the judicial system because that was just another case.

That soul could still be feeling those effects. So there again nothing got solved. And yet it did...

So who cares?

XxNightAngelusxX
So, I've come to realize that due to the overstimulation of emotional reactions with events like 9/11 and the Boston Bombing, along with zillions of school shootings, people whine, grovel, and bitch about how evil bombs and guns are. Those people are being emotionally manipulated into accepting new wars and restricting laws.

I learned something new during the initial stages of the Sandy Hook thing. Id seen it during 9/11.. but this time I was involved in the thing. The love and light crowd, the over emotional punking sadness... HATE you and will attack you en masse if you arent barfing up all of these catch phrases and buzz words. I mean if you dont FEEL that over the top level of sadness, why express it falsely. I didnt express false sadness. I was concerned, understand the issue, and the deaths of anyone innocent is terrible ..and much more so children. I wasnt wallowing and freaking the hell out emotinally online over it. I very honestly didnt understand the response and beahvior.They REALLY REALLY resent this.. call you everything they can, talk smack, openly question your psyche... you name it.

Even those who consider themselves "awake" have a set script of phrases and parameters in behavior and belief that is acceptable to them and those that mean youre one of the bad guys.. the "them". Theyre as brainwashed and as emotionally manipulated as anyone... perhaps moreso because they SHOULD know better.

Sometimes the "I dont care's" are avoiding dealing with hysterics..