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The fact that is peculiar and exciting is that Ezekiel — despite his extraordinary talent for observation — finds nothing unusual about these men except the "destroying weapon." Not even the man in their midst impresses him with anything other than that he was "clothed in linen." If we add to this the fact that the commander, too, is always described simply as "man," it follows that all those related to the spaceship looked like humans.
Source: BIBLE TEXT AND SPACE TECHNOLOGY
Ezekiel 40:2-5
In visions of God he took me to the land of Israel and set me on a very high mountain, on whose south side were some buildings that looked like a city. 3 He took me there, and I saw a man whose appearance was like bronze; he was standing in the gateway with a linen cord and a measuring rod in his hand. 4 The man said to me, “Son of man, look carefully and listen closely and pay attention to everything I am going to show you, for that is why you have been brought here. Tell the people of Israel everything you see.”
The East Gate to the Outer Court
I saw a wall completely surrounding the temple area. The length of the measuring rod in the man’s hand was six long cubits,[a] each of which was a cubit and a handbreadth. He measured the wall; it was one measuring rod thick and one rod high
(...)
"Son of man, describe the temple to the people of Israel, that they may be ashamed of their sins. Let them consider its perfection, and if they are ashamed of all they have done, make known to them the design of the temple — its arrangement, its exits and entrances — its whole design and all its regulations and laws. Write these down before them so that they may be faithful to its design and follow all its regulations."
/emphasis added/
According to the Kabbalistic explanation, the Seraphim ("burning" angels) in Beriah (divine understanding) realise their distance from the absolute divinity of Atziluth. Their call, "Holy", repeated three times, means removed or separated. This causes their "burning up" continual self-nullification, ascending to God and returning to their place. Their understanding realises instead that God's true purpose (glory) for creation is with lowly man.
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St Udio
reply to post by Revolution9
i myself envision the 'wheel within a wheel' as very much like the global project in the movie 'Contact
Jody Foster character went through a wormhole & spent close to 30 minutes in another time frame, environment... but the engineers on earth saw only the several second 'drop' of the Wheel-within-a-Wheel transport device
jeep3r
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Yep, I've heard about it and it neatly relates to this OP. Interestingly, some of the early concepts like Kabbalah also reference seraphim, in terms of 'burning angels':
According to the Kabbalistic explanation, the Seraphim ("burning" angels) in Beriah (divine understanding) realise their distance from the absolute divinity of Atziluth. Their call, "Holy", repeated three times, means removed or separated. This causes their "burning up" continual self-nullification, ascending to God and returning to their place. Their understanding realises instead that God's true purpose (glory) for creation is with lowly man.
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When reading the above, I am indeed reminded of Ezekiel's vision. And when further considering that these descriptions are derived from our earliest books & ancient records, the impact & importance of these events for the people at the time can't be called into question. Whether those encounters were spiritual or technological in nature is almost secondary, whereas I do believe almost everything points to an advanced society having been in contact with us.
P.S.: Thanks for adding some extra info to this thread ... !
Revolution9
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Remember what Jesus said about "Let your yes be YES and your no be NO"? Well that is pointing to the High Priest of The Ark's divinatory authority to ask questions of The LORD through Urim and Thummin that were on his breast plate. In the O.T The LORD gave yes and no answers to the High Priest. The only non High Priest to ask a question directly in the O.T was David.
Also, consider how digital code works. It is really YES and NO, 1s and 0s, binary.
jeep3r
Revolution9
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Remember what Jesus said about "Let your yes be YES and your no be NO"? Well that is pointing to the High Priest of The Ark's divinatory authority to ask questions of The LORD through Urim and Thummin that were on his breast plate. In the O.T The LORD gave yes and no answers to the High Priest. The only non High Priest to ask a question directly in the O.T was David.
Also, consider how digital code works. It is really YES and NO, 1s and 0s, binary.
That binary code reference is interesting, to say the least. And to be honest, I believe the key to reinterpreting the bible can be found in exactly those details.
But getting back to Ezekiel: isn't it really strange that he seems to be interacting with humans or human-like beings? Wouldn't he have described these 'men' as looking substantially different if they were, in fact, aliens with a completely different anatomy - especially when taking into account the detailed description of the spacecraft, the temple and the men in 'bronze' and 'linen'? He would certainly have given special attention to their appearance, if he'd been confronted with some unknown intelligent species, right?
And if this is true, then these 'men' from that period of time could still be among us today without us noticing! That's another interesting aspect of the story, IMO. Personally, though, I have no doubts that those visitors back then originated from a technologically advanced civilization. The question is who they were, where they came from and what they wanted.
By the way: thanks again for your contribution, Revolution9 ... !
teslahowitzer
(...) and just like in the book of Enoch, there are many, many clues. Advanced beings, human or not would overwhelm the mind of someone who's elite level of travel is a chariot and horse, not an advanced aircraft, we would see the same thing completely different, way different and describe it in a seriously opposite context.
]Ezekiel 5:5-6
This is what the Sovereign Lord says: This is Jerusalem, which I have set in the center of the nations, with countries all around her. Yet in her wickedness she has rebelled against my laws and decrees more than the nations and countries around her. She has rejected my laws and has not followed my decrees.
/emphasis added/
phantomjack
Frankly, I am surprised that the book of Ezekiel even made it into the Bible and was not dumped off as part of the gnostic texts for fear of man finding out too much information about his origins or our distant relatives.
jeep3r
phantomjack
Frankly, I am surprised that the book of Ezekiel even made it into the Bible and was not dumped off as part of the gnostic texts for fear of man finding out too much information about his origins or our distant relatives.
That surprises me, too ... the references in that book explicitly describe technologically advanced 'visitors'. When considering that similar references can also be found in other parts of the bible, I believe it's safe to say that our own development was strongly linked to their activities here on Earth.
I'm not quite sure, though, about which timeline we're actually speaking, but those encounters that started 592 B.C. were probably just a tiny fraction of the whole mission, which might even reach back hundreds or thousands of years earlier.
Blue Shift
On the other hand, Ezekiel might have just been hallucinating like a crazy or drugged up person and was atypically able to describe his hallucination in such great detail that it reads like a real thing happened to him.
On the scale of things that can be believed as true, a single eyewitness account is at the very bottom, no matter how people try to interpret it an add good artwork.
phantomjack
What I find interesting as a result of your post is that there are certain religious laws that prohibit the mere study or speaking of the events depicted in Ezekiel.
Why? Its a "Don't look behind the curtain" type mentality that fear of people finding the truth is abundant.
Revolution9
It is one explanation, but these visions were not just confined to Ezekiel's experience. Ezekiel, Jacob, Moses, Daniel, Jesus and His Disciples and St Paul all had similar visions. St John describes the exact same bronze looking Figure in The Revelation as in Ezekiel.