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suz62
This is wrong. A business owner has the right to refuse service and always has had that right. This is liberal politics. The judge should be kicked off the bench.
beezzer
reply to post by KingIcarus
So you would be ok with someone forcing an Islamic caterer to provide a pork/bacon meal?
Willtell
reply to post by beezzer
The problem with that hypothetical is that a practicing Muslim wouldn’t serve pork at all, he wouldn’t have it in the shop, and a non practicing Muslim would certainly serve it.
The baker made wedding cakes.
If he didn’t make wedding cakes then those people had no complaint.
jimmyx
.what would be your excuse for NOT selling a cupcake to a gay person?
starfoxxx
jimmyx
.what would be your excuse for NOT selling a cupcake to a gay person?
EASY, do not need an excuse. Don't have to tell them why.. AT ALL..
Just tell them you refuse service, no explanation needed.
beezzer
Willtell
reply to post by beezzer
The problem with that hypothetical is that a practicing Muslim wouldn’t serve pork at all, he wouldn’t have it in the shop, and a non practicing Muslim would certainly serve it.
The baker made wedding cakes.
If he didn’t make wedding cakes then those people had no complaint.
I would request that they serve it.
Caterers don't serve food that they have on hand. They ask for a menu, and purchase food for the catered event.
I want a roasted pig served by an Islamic caterer.
If they don't comply, the state will then punish them, correct?
KingIcarus
starfoxxx
jimmyx
.what would be your excuse for NOT selling a cupcake to a gay person?
EASY, do not need an excuse. Don't have to tell them why.. AT ALL..
Just tell them you refuse service, no explanation needed.
Perhaps if they'd just done that, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
That's what I'd have done anyhow.
KingIcarus
Hold on, are you telling me you can be kicked out of a cab for having a seeing eye / guide dog in the US?
Damn, that's messed up.
ketsuko
reply to post by jimmyx
No, this is not a gay person buying a cupcake. This is a wedding cake which is pretty much always a specialized, custom order.
Willtell
reply to post by beezzer
But I think he would win the case because he doesn’t sell pork. How can you force a business man to sell something they don’t sell for whatever reason? That’s different from this case, since the baker did make wedding cakes in his ordinary business.
The same thing if you went to a Kosher Jewish deli and asked for pork bacon. They would simply say WE DON'T SELL PORK.
If you went to sue them over this I believe you would be laughed out of court