all! lets watch the realtime Ison journey meet the sun..provide by NASA!

And I'll give this thread its 500th post, just to satisfy my Monk-like side.

EDIT: I told quite a few people I know about ISON's passing and then, later, had to go back and correct my initial report. None of them had an interest in either. I don't know what percentage of people actually care about this, but I'm very glad I'm one of them. People interested in their own interests must feel the same way about topics I care nothing about, like the South American Dreadnaught Race (don't ask).

reply to post by Aleister


Some of us are lurking, but with 5 threads going on ison. Its hard to keep up with whats facted or whats fiction. But none the less im really interested.

All this hype over a boulder of ice, now a anti climactic finale? I am dissapoint off to where failed comets of the century go joining the likes of ELEnin.

PurpleDog UK

kauskau

BobAthome
reply to post by Tucket

 

during the rush too control,, there is one , image out there somewhere ,,which shows a perfect sphere,, which was called a bad pixel,, ,, but a perfect sphere inner core would make , logical sence,, in the vacumn of "outer-space",,

maybe that is what they don't want too accept???

can you explain what you mean? THey did not accept what ? and why wouldnt they show it?

Here you go, more oval egg than round sphere

Rgds

PDUK

nice pictures..are they official?

hillbilly4rent
reply to post by Aleister

 

Some of us are lurking, but with 5 threads going on ison. Its hard to keep up with whats facted or whats fiction. But none the less im really interested.

I meant people in my personal life, not on ATS. Like most topics covered here, the general public couldn't care less as long as their shows come on on time and the garbage is collected. I read earlier that even a week after Comet Hale-Bopp was prominent in the sky in 1997 only something like 63 percent of Americans had seen it. That's a huge amount, but what was wrong with those who knew about it but didn't bother?

Oh, one more story. I told a friend of a family member about ISON before the sun-swing, and how it would be prominent in the skies, and she said she probably wouldn't look because the windows in her house didn't look out on that portion of the sky! True story, and I didn't say anything at that point so as not to follow up on a "duh" moment.

reply to post by kauskau


Lol. Now it looks like a space ship.
Lets chk with Richard Hoagland or peter levenda

reply to post by Konduit


SDO caught ISON in one frame from the AIA 193 camera, at 18:28:31 UT. It is visible as a bright dot with a very small and faint tail.



You can see it here: cometison.gsfc.nasa.gov...

[Edit] Found it in the "Approach" images from the same camera, at 18:07:07 UT.

And in the "Departure" images, at 20:09:55 UT, getting brighter.

This guy seems to have his act together, nice to read an honest response. Check out the link for the most recent photo.

www.slate.com...

UPDATE 2 (Nov. 29 at 02:30 UTC): This beastie continues to surprise. This SOHO image, from 00:18 UTC on Nov. 29, sure looks like something survived intact. At this point all I can say is the same thing I've been saying all along: predicting comets is like predicting cats. Good luck with that. For those keeping score at home, it got bright, then it faded, then it got all smeared out, then it came around the Sun smeared out, and then it seemed to get its act together again. At this point, I refuse to make any further conclusions about this comet; it seems eager to confuse. I've been hearing from comet specialists who are just as baffled... which is fantastic! If we knew what was going on, there'd be nothing more to learn.

I'm with Angelic Resurrection, now it looks like a space ship more than ever.

Cue the night stalker music.

Biigs


The tail effects took time to really see properly since the reduction in the nucleus mass and speed was far greater than expected.

Estimated reduction in mass may have been calculated taking earths ambient time
into consideration. However near the sun, ambient time ticks faster than our time,
hence the actual reduction in mass was greater than estimated

Biigs


EDIT: Delaying the images or updates could potentially be a safety net, like a pause on live tv so they can edit out accidents (aka swearing) in case anything "unexpected" happened, that is to say that somthing other than breaking up, impacting or slinging as first projected.

edit on 30-11-2013 by Biigs because: (no reason given)

And why should we be spared knowing something unexpected happened? as ridiculous as that suggestion sounds it is probably 100% accurate and is most likely the case in most of the NASA conspiracy topics. But seriously, who makes those judgment calls? Is that really science or politics?

DenyObfuscation
reply to post by bottleslingguy

 

This won't be a conversation.

If you think you know something then say it.

I'm not playing your #ing games.

you said the reason why we didn't see perihelion was because they went "off-point". I said you never explained WHY they went "off-point", now you're pulling a hissy fit? Great comeback!

I hope not. If the orbit changed significantly, that would mean it lost too much mass and thus all we are seeing is dispersing rubble. If what emerged is in the same basic orbit, then the comet was massive enough and cohesive enough to survive, and therefor might still put on a show.

you mean a show like this?

reply to post by bottleslingguy


I saw the end of that film. Kirsten Dunst would have been blown off the soil by gravity and winds long before they could have sat there and held hands and cried a little. The atmosphere would have been torn away, at a minimum, and her hair would look more messed up. What, they put on make up and "product" for the end of the world?

reply to post by bottleslingguy

you said the reason why we didn't see perihelion was because they went "off-point".

That is a false statement.

I guess they didn't want us to watch it morph into a triangle ufo

reply to post by wildespace


Wow good eye.

Have you shared this with any one besides ATS?

I'm sure there are many that would be interested in this.

Have you checked it out on 4096x4096?

DenyObfuscation
reply to post by bottleslingguy

 

you said the reason why we didn't see perihelion was because they went "off-point".

That is a false statement.

you'd be less obfuscatory if you maybe then show where you coherently explained why we don't see the missing footage. Your explanation of why we don't see anything was the link and quote where they said they were going "off-point", but when asked why they did that in the first place you got all defensive like I had just asked something unreasonable. I'm only trying to clarify the situation and you are getting vague with the short one-liners. So I will give you another opportunity to be less obfuscatory- why don't we see perihelion on any of the footage?

AlphaHawk
reply to post by wildespace

 

Wow good eye.

Have you shared this with any one besides ATS?

I'm sure there are many that would be interested in this.

Have you checked it out on 4096x4096?

I got heads-up about this at the International Comet group on Facebook, with this link. That Facebook group is frequented by very respected amateur astronomers, so I think the word got out.

How do I check it at 4096x4096 resolution? I downloaded the images from that time frame, but there are only 3 heavily darkened images which don't include those particular times.

By the way, ISON is barely visible on the AIA 171 camera (the one everyone was looking at):

reply to post by bottleslingguy

I'm only trying to clarify the situation and you are getting vague with the short one-liners.

Wrong. You're comments are accusations, which are false.

I showed you the answer. Maybe you didn't understand it.

Do you even know what obfuscation means? If you do, you would know you're making accusations when you use that term to attack me, without evidence I might add.

reply to post by wildespace


sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov...

I went and tried, I'm on an iPad and it won't work for me.