all! lets watch the realtime Ison journey meet the sun..provide by NASA!

daryllyn
Dear Comet ISON,

Please make up your mind and figure out what exactly you are doing.

Thanks,

The Internet

*****

Every time I check its something different. It disintegrated, it didn't, it did, it didn't, it DID!

I guess I'll just have to keep refreshing.. *sigh*

Duck Season! Wabbit Season!

Duck Season!...

Seems ISON is a wascally wabbit....or is it a duck?....

drneville

symptomoftheuniverse

HoboHumpinSloboBabe
Here you go Phage

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This wins post of the year...... it goes to show you should never follow experts blindly. Although phage is mostly correct sometimes he is wrong.
The consensus is ison survived,how long will it be before phage joins the consensus and stop hanging around on the fringe lol,enjoy the humble pie.

I wish we had mor folks around here like Phage, always an intelligent and down to earth reply if you ask him something...
Kinda of low to bring him down on one little point, almost the whole astronomer community was of the opinion that Ison was history

How many times you've been wrong around here ?? No hard feelings...

edit on 29-11-2013 by drneville because: Damn english languace...

i respect phage as much as you. Sometimes its the status some members cast on him thats embarrasing and unfortunatly it may have gone to his head a tad.
Oh and im wrong all the time,nobody is right,we are all wrong,lets not pretend otherwise

ISON in a «pixel» Still it seems LARGE


ISON SDO AIA 193

voyger2
reply to post by voyger2

 

STEREO A

STEREO B

Earth is in the opposite side right now, but soon will cross the plane of ISON path, at about 2o'clock in the image above, later in december.

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Is it just me or does that comet seem to be tumbling a lot more on its way out than on its way in? If planets can perturb an orbit can't a change in velocity or rotation rate do this, just asking? This comet is confusing even the best observers is it not?

reply to post by voyger2


Yep and that pixel has a tail. According to phage its nothing.

bottleslingguy
reply to post by DenyObfuscation

 

it didn't say the reason why they were going off during that time only that they would be off

Actually it does say why.

We plan to off-point at 17:30 UTC (12:30 pm ET) and return to normal solar observing at 20:45 UTC (3:45 pm ET).

At 3:45 pm ET SDO was pointed back to its normal viewing direction. It's important to find out what it is you don't understand about that in order to help you.

reply to post by zilebeliveunknown


Thanks for the link. Great video.

Looks like the jury is still out as to whether or not ISON survived.

Maybe it is just the way the video is made in stereo, but there seem to be some very strange things happening.

ISON appears to sprout wings as it approaches the sun, or like it is doing a swan dive into the sun.

The Sun shoots out some major bursts as ISON approaches, and then goes silent as ISON slingshots around it.

To me, the head of ISON looks bigger as it emerges from behind the sun. It seems to sprout wings again, like a giant space ship maneuvering around the sun.

Awesome!!!!

reply to post by poet1b
the jury is not out it survived,according to nasa.

reply to post by whatnext21


well I'm no expert
I think he is doing what was supposed to do... again i'm no expert.. i think the the solar winds cuted down and shaken ISON's tail .. and given us the sense of blurry images .. or something ..

i'm just guessing here

But, but Phage said it had died

To be fair to him though so did Nasa, ESA & my Dad.

Let's see if she's going to light up the sky in time for Christmas.

The news are getting better and better...
ISON may still be visible to us on Earth.

Ison has survived its encounter with the sun – or at least part of it has. This means that it could still brighten sufficiently to be visible to the unaided eye in December's night skies. Estimates of what we will be able to see will improve over the next few days as astronomers track the comet's progress.

When will it be visible?

The comet is now moving away from the sun. It will be sufficiently far away from the sun's glare to become visible in the pre-dawn sky in the first week of December. The best time to start looking is around 6:30am from 2 December. The comet's tail will be sticking straight up into the sky.

Lots of useful stuff in the link below.

TheGuardian
Cheesy brother, where are you to see this?

reply to post by BobAthome


"what Density would u say the new Mass might be?"
does NASA have a number yet,, on its specific gravity?

Eureka!!,, does outer space have a specific gravity?




from earlier,,, too refresh,,

reply to post by Phage



"We believe some small part of #ISON's nucleus has SURVIVED perihelion."

speaking of nothing,, any comments on your ealier assurtion,, that there was "nothing" left of ISON?

or are u taliking bout absolute vacumn,, or some sci-fi,, and i quote,,"how hot or cold is "nothing".

please focus on "outer space type of vacumn.".

and if ison has lost some Protons/Electrons,, ie your conglomeration of,,stuff,,,will its nuclie reflect that change,, on a new Atomic Weight scale,, what Density would u say the new Mass might be?
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reply to post by Cobaltic1978


NASA never said it died, they said it may have died.

reply to post by rickymouse


Didn't they say all the signs were that it had perished? My humble apologies if I am incorrect.

Phage
reply to post by 0bserver1

 

what lesson will be learned from it ?

From a scientific perspective, quite a lot.
From an ATS perspective, not a thing. The next comet will produce the same nonsense.

Phage I just wanted to say 2 things, firstly thank you for your sometimes short but informative posts on scientific issues that have given me language to research the stuff on my own. I've learned a lot from you so thanks.

Secondly though, As far as ISON is concerned and the above statement (especially in Cheesy's posts) except for a few whakadoodles I haven't seen much doom porn, just those of us who REALLY wanted to see it with the naked eye. I know I went out every morning before sun up looking hehe.

I saw Hale Bop from 8k+ feet in the Colorado Rockies and I can safely say it was THE most awesome thing I have ever seen and I can still close my eyes and see remember it clearly. It was SO huge and colorful and gorgeous, it looked like you could reach out and touch it it was so big.

So please don't lump the majority of us in Cheesy's threads into the doom porn mindset, we just really want(ed) to see something spectacular

Lil

reply to post by cheesy


Hey cheesy it survived! Of course you probably already know this. Are you as interested in the others headed this way? I sure am!
Looking forward to more of your post. S&F

Ummm....so all one has to do is pull up a current image on SOHO to determine if there is anything left of ISON. You don't even need a degree to figure it out.

reply to post by westcoast


"current image on SOHO"

Cobaltic1978
reply to post by rickymouse

 

Didn't they say all the signs were that it had perished? My humble apologies if I am incorrect.

Yes, but read what you just said. "They said all the signs were that it had perished" Does it say it perished? No. It just stated the evidence showed something had happened and they were not yet able to see if anything was still there along the path.

When examining scientific information it is very important to see if something is stated as a fact or if the article states a probability. You have to read tens of thousands of scientific articles to get used to it. The articles not written by scientists off of this information often have problems because the person did not understand that scientists never say something for sure....Lot of times they will give a ninety nine percent chance if they are pretty sure. Other ways are to align the words to cover the possibility that it may not happen.

reply to post by rickymouse


Thanks for clearing that faux pas on my part. I will learn from the error of my ignorant ways.

NASA didn't say it was dead, it just didn't have a clue what was happening. How many $billions of funding have they received over the years?