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buster2010
Why does America need a embassy to a church? Without religion the Vatican wouldn't exist so why should we be doing anything diplomatically?
Biigs
Less to do with the Vatican is only a good thing in my eyes.
Leave that country to its own devious and twisted devices.
Peter the Roman, who will nourish the sheep in many tribulations; when they are finished, the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the dreadful judge will judge his people. The end.
Senduko
reply to post by FlyersFan
Just putting it out here,
Peter the Roman, who will nourish the sheep in many tribulations; when they are finished, the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the dreadful judge will judge his people. The end.
Maybe Obummer knows something
Pope Francis has called for power in the Catholic Church to be devolved away from the Vatican, in the first major work he has written in the role. In the document, he says he is open to suggestions to changes in the power of the papacy. He also warns that rising global economic inequality is bound to explode in conflict.
Allen discloses that a contract has already been awarded to house the US embassy to the Holy See on the grounds of the embassy to Italy. The embassy to the Holy See would retain separate offices and a separate entrance at the new location. The US mission to the UN’s Food and Agriculture Organization already has separate offices on the embassy grounds.
“It’s turning this embassy into a stepchild of the embassy to Italy,” complained James Nicholson, the US ambassador to the Vatican under President George W. Bush. Other former American envoys—Francis Rooney, Mary Ann Glendon, Raymond Flynn, and Thomas Melady—also disapproved of the plan.
The move—which has been under discussion since the Bush administration—has been explained as a measure to boost security. The transfer is currently scheduled for completion in 2015.
The current US ambassador, Ken Hackett, and his immediate predecessor, Miguel Diaz, rejected claims that the move would signal a downgrading of the US relationship with the Holy See.
theantediluvian
Calm down.
Also, the Vatican is not a "country," it's a 110 acre city-state with a population of under 1,000.
Full Question - Is the Vatican really a country?
Answer - Yes. The history of the Vatican City State is colorful, controversial, and complex. The world's smallest country, at just 109 acres, it has a population of roughly one thousand, with citizenship being largely restricted to those employed by the Vatican. It operates, among other things, a mint, a post office, an astronomical observatory, and a world-class radio station, and it administers a legal system, although in criminal matters (such as the assassination attempt against the pope) Italian courts have jurisdiction. The Vatican uses the Italian lira as its currency. Certain other properties, such as the pope's summer residence, Castle Gandolfo, located outside of Rome, have extraterritorial status similar to that enjoyed by embassies. The Vatican enters into diplomatic relations with other sovereign states, but remains strictly neutral in political matters. The Vatican's territorial independence is guaranteed by Italy in accord with the Lateran Treaty signed in 1929 and revised in 1985. The famous white and yellow flag featuring the papal tiara and the crossed keys, commonly taken as the pope's flag, is actually the flag of the Vatican City State.
8. Has external recognition. A country has been "voted into the club" by other countries.
Yes! It is the Holy See which maintains international relations; the term "Holy See" refers to the composite of the authority, jurisdiction, and sovereignty vested in the Pope and his advisers to direct the worldwide Roman Catholic Church.
Created in 1929 to provide a territorial identity for the Holy See in Rome, the State of the Vatican City is a recognized national territory under international law.
The Holy See maintains formal diplomatic relations with 174 nations and 68 of these countries maintain permanent resident diplomatic missions accredited to the Holy See in Rome. Most embassies are outside of the Vatican City and are Rome. The other countries have missions located outside Italy with dual accreditation. The Holy See maintains 106 permanent diplomatic missions to nation-states around the world. The Vatican City/Holy See is not a member of the United Nations. They are an observer.
Thus, the Vatican City does meet all eight criteria for independent country status so we should consider it as an independent State.
If the U.S. had an embassy in Mecca staffed with Muslim envoys, you'd have a meltdown.
StallionDuck
I'm curious to why it's "unsafe". Does he know something we don't?
rupertg
The age of consent in the vatican is 12.
No prizes for guessing who proposed that.
The minimum age of consent in Vatican City is 18.
While the Vatican State has not made its own complete separate criminal code, and generally uses the Italian criminal code that was in effect at the time of the Lateran Treaty, there are exceptions to this rule. The "Law of the Source of Law" of the Vatican State requires that any Italian laws must first defer to divine law, to Papal decrees, and to canon law. As the Vatican understands divine law, all sex outside of marriage is illicit, and therefore the only lawful consent that may be made for sexual relations is the consent between a husband and a wife. Canon 1083 of the 1983 Code of Canon Law states that "A man before he has completed his sixteenth year of age and a woman before she has completed her fourteenth year of age cannot enter into a valid marriage." [101] Thus, assuming the couple is married, the minimum age of consent for lawful sexual relations according to Vatican law is 15 for females, and 17 for males.