Christianity at risk of dying out in a generation

spy66

jude11
It's a great start!

Now all we can hope for is that the rest of the religions follow suit. That wipes out about 99% of war in our future IMO.

Peace

Yeah right. We are not fighting religious wars dude. We are fighting over who's political laws we must fallow.

To day it dosent matter what any one of us believe, as long as you fallow the law.

God dosent punish us when we break he's laws. Only man hands out punishment when people break their laws.

Wake up and smell reality.

Not fighting religious wars? Really?

Ok then.

reply to post by jude11


well in reality he is correct
these wars have nothing to do with religion and are almost entirely caused by personal greed religion is simply how it is sold to the irrational reactionary masses

A generation isn't soon enough!

ABSOLUTELY INDEED.

The substrate of the Judeo-Christian culture did our society good for more than 150 years or so.

The Globalist Oligarchy deliberately targeted it and attacked it ruthlessly with massive propaganda and tyrannical control of the educational and scientific establishments and institutions.

Sow to the wind, reap the whirlwind.

They WANT chaos in order to enable the easier establishment of the super tyrannical global government on the ashes of our historic and traditional culture.

That's part of what the "NEW" in NEW WORLD ORDER is about . . . only it's about as NEW as the ancient satan worshiping cults of Babylon, Iran, Saudi Arabia etc.

ketsuko
Not surprising.

In order to reduce us to a pack of ill-educated, ill-bred, isolated and uncivilized idiots who need to be ruled by force, TPTB had to undermine three things - our families, our neighborhoods, and our faith communities.

That means breaking apart the traditional family which we see with the push toward single-parenthood and marriage equality and the general idea that all family "models" are equal. And with the steady erosion of the nuclear family, you also see an erosion of the extended family. How often are we bombarded in the media with stories telling us about how we ought to dislike our extended relations? It used to be that familes, and extended families, relied on one another for help and support in times of trouble. Blood being thicker than water and all that.

Who among you can name your neighbors, genuinely say that you like them or trust them or could rely on them if you had some temporary trouble? Remember the good old days when you and all your neighbors' kids ran the neighborhood like a free range pack from dawn til dusk?

And it used to be that just about everyone went to some kind of church every Sunday. Or at least enough of us did that it carried over for those who didn't. And our church community was another one from which we drew strength in a pool of people we knew, trusted and could count on to help lift us up if we ever ran into trouble.

All three of these things made us better able to be a self-reliant and free people who neither wanted nor needed the strong, paternal hand of the government on our lives.

Watch any of them pass away and mourn for our future.

(church in this post is a generic term for a house of any kind of worship)

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reply to post by tovenar


You are so right and It’s sad really. The western civilization has been declining for quite some time now already .

It is not just Christianity that is about to disappear , it’s the entire western culture that is in the process of being wiped out. One would perhaps think that other cultures and nations would be the ones that caused such a catastrophe to happen. That is however not the case, because it is entirely caused and welcomed by the western people themselves.

I have been searching for answer to this strange kind of ‘self hate’ for years, and has never actually understood why a huge amount of nations would commit suicide this way. I still have no answers.

There are always some fundamental pillars that’s keeps a civilization or culture glued together. Christianity is one of those pillars. Ones these kind of pillars fall, a series of other minor pillars falls as domino bricks as well. Thus some people would probably observe that the general moral is also declining, the family institution is about to be obsolete, drugs , drinking and partying is increasing, criminal acts are increasing, arts is declining, schools and education is declining, police and military is declining, elderly are abandoned, loneliness is rapidly increasing and children is for some strange reason war-shipped as gods along with all kind of other idols .

Meanwhile mass immigration is continuing at the same pace, social welfare is increasing rapidly and the entire world economic system is about to collapse.

If those who willed this to happen, initially just wanted to hurt Christianity, they have eventually got more than they bargained for. We are going into times full of all kind of trouble and turbulence.

reply to post by helius


Remember what it was like after the Roman Empire fell?

What did we call those times?

Oh yeah, the Dark Ages. We didn't call them that because they were full of love and happiness. We called them that because society in general lost a lot of learning and culture and went backward into darkness and ignorance for a period of time.

A lot of people want to blame religion for that, but it was a lot more complicated and complex than that.

The massive social bureaucracies and institutions that people had come to rely on in the Empire broke down. Whole cultures broke down. The Romans in general lost their vigor as a people and became indolent and corrupt.

We can see the same going on in our very own society today.

reply to post by helius

You are so right and It’s sad really. The western civilization has been declining for quite some time now already.

It is truly bizarre that, in the past two decades or so, we have seen the beginning of the end for the US, Canada and Europe, and we have also seen the general decline of Christianity, and no one seems to make any connection. For any of you cheerleaders who are chanting "yeah, about time, let's hurry it along", do you really think that society is going in the right direction? Go read some of the horror stories in the Posse Comitatus forum, most of which are rooted in an utter disrespect for other human beings and life in general -- is that your utopian future?

Because it's almost certainly your future.

reply to post by Grimpachi

His comments at a Christian conference came as a stark report laid before the Church of England’s General Synod warned that its position as a “national institution” will be in doubt if numbers in the pews drop much further.

In my opinion this former Archbishop of Canterbury Lord Carey has a rather myopic view of Christianity. The state sanctioned Church of England's congregation may be waning, but it hardly represents all of Christianity.

I think the idea of a state sanctioned religion is as old and outdated as the dark ages, and I think people, especially young people, generally resent being told what to believe or how to express their faith through some government sanctioned avenue. But, I don't think we're going to see the extinction of Christianity any time soon.

Klassified
This could actually be the best thing to ever happen to Christianity. If Christianity dies to the point, the con men no longer control it from the pulpits, and there are no more billions to be made from their congregations, Christianity gets a fresh start. It truly becomes a religion of individual choice, rather than group mentality. It would be like cleaning house, so to speak. Leaving only those who are genuine, and not just following a sect.

On the other hand, this has been coming for a long time. We are at a time in our "social evolution" that not only is the LGBT community coming out full force, but the non-religious, atheists, agnostics, and others have been silenced by the majority long enough. We're going to see all the major religions become a minority in the next few generations, I believe.

I agree that it's actually a good thing. I think a dramatic diminishing in the popularity of Christianity will be exactly what allows it to survive and not fade out into obscurity.

It's kind of like when a genre of music gets forgotten only to be picked up and improved upon by musicians who are in it for the music and not to get on MTV. Techno would have never came about if Disco stayed popular. Modern metal wouldn't have made it if the hair metal bands didn't die off. Etc, etc. Religions often work the same way.

reply to post by Grimpachi

adjensen
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You are so right and It’s sad really. The western civilization has been declining for quite some time now already.

It is truly bizarre that, in the past two decades or so, we have seen the beginning of the end for the US, Canada and Europe, and we have also seen the general decline of Christianity, and no one seems to make any connection. For any of you cheerleaders who are chanting "yeah, about time, let's hurry it along", do you really think that society is going in the right direction? Go read some of the horror stories in the Posse Comitatus forum, most of which are rooted in an utter disrespect for other human beings and life in general -- is that your utopian future?

Because it's almost certainly your future.

It's bound to have a correlation. People identify Christianity with western culture so they will grow and decline together or, at least, appear to.

The question is whether Christianity will take a side-car along with other religions or if it will hold on to dominance until it is hated. There is room for religious harmony but the hate on all sides is caused by the pop-religions which happen to include many versions of Christianity.

Western culture decline isn't necessarily seen as a "bad" thing to many people. Western culture declining in Europe might be a long road but North America is still fresh with the current culture. North America had a culture before the British arrived so it's only natural to assume we'll have another culture fairly soon.

reply to post by Grimpachi


It's their own fault. Their hypocrisy made people stop trusting them. Jesus taught humility, says Paul in his letters to the early churches, but look at how so-called Christianity is today.

I feel sad for Jesus and all who tried to help humanity but most of the world does not care to be humble.

reply to post by Cuervo

I hadn't thought of it from that perspective, a very interesting way of seeing it.

This thing about humilty doesnt mean dog pies. It means not lording it over others, and there is are a few that do this, most don't have enough self esteem, and need to heal their cores and not play so small, but start to grow up an envision better worlds. But humility means pyramid systems and not having arrogance. It doesnt mean abasement.

It has nothing to do with humility. The reason for the world problems are the plans that are acted out by the mismanagement team, not Christians. And this plan to shove sharia at everyone, and diminish the Love religion. Aint going to happen, no matter what, bad guys get rounded up or have changes of hearts and start to help humanity, and thats it, dont envision and don't empower anything else. Neither should you guys, since thoughts are real.

boncho
I'm not really worried about christianity dying out (good riddance), although I find it unlikely, but I am more worried about people turning to Islam or offshoot, quasi religions like scientology simply because it's new, and the preaching from those highlight everything that's wrong with christianity but conveniently omit their own problems. Basically replacing one problem with another.

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Kudos on pointing out something I've thought could happen, as well. Leaving a religious abyss just means it will get filled - honestly, Islam is ready to fill that gap. It is ready to pounce on the opportunity!

Not only is Islam already making new strides in Europe and the U.K., it has a better economy to back it up than the West. And with The Muslim Brotherhood aiming to include technology with its faith, it has an upper hand over both science-only and faith-only institutions, especially when the two (science and faith) aren't getting along.

reply to post by helius


Utter nonsense. Crime is decreasing, and has been decreasing for decades. I can't speak for your family, but mine actually adopts strays and invites them inside to help celebrate good times, and survive the bad. Civilization isn't declining at all. It's just changing into something else. The fact that this "something else" doesn't look much like what you wish it was changes nothing.

It sure was glad to know ya.

Above the English parliament is something called the House of Lords
en.wikipedia.org...

Unlike the elected House of Commons, most new members of the House of Lords are appointed.[3] Membership of the House of Lords is made up of Lords Spiritual and Lords Temporal. There are currently 26 Lords Spiritual who sit in the Lords by virtue of their ecclesiastical role in the established Church of England

en.wikipedia.org...

if the church is dying out in England then it will be impossible to justify having these parasites people in a position of power and that's what is probably annoying Lord Carey

Keep an eye out, mega propaganda machine Hollywood is also hinting toward a collapse of christianity. Too many people can see the corruption and the greed behind religious power. Whose God should we worship? Is one God correct and the rest wrong, or are we all getting played? Is there a mega-scheme going on? Did we evolve or are we the creation of another specie/civilization? Why is the most important function of the human body: heart - also rearanged spelling the word: earth? Are we confined to a world that is being protected by massive cover-ups to keep us humans unaware and submissive? One thing is certain, Christianity is not what humans need and if it must die out, how can we help the process move along faster?

I much rather see Judaism go first. It's the little instigator that makes the other religions fight each and look bad historically, all while brainwashing the masses to think them a bunch of perfect angels. Judaism is the number one deterrent for peace and progress in the world.

reply to post by Grimpachi


Depends on region, although in many European countries religion has not been part of the culture for decades, if not longer, especially among youth.

Having travelled all across Europe,having met thousands of my-aged people, I have yet to meet a religious person from my age group (millennials).

The fact simply comes from less people being raised religious. Due to the irrational nature of religions, when someone is not raised that way (brainwashed by repeating something for up to decades - youth), it is near to impossible that someone would choose a religion on their own. It is significantly harder to unlearn something (however strong argument against something is said, the neural connections strengthened in decades are simply too strong and the person will find a way to rationalise it, often by circular logic). On the other hand, when a person can look at different sides and choose whether to believe or not, being unbiased, it is nearly 100% chance that they won´t. If you want your kids Christian, just repeat the stuff for decades, if not, simply don´t talk about religion at home and it will do its job.

The decline of Christianity is not a threat to European cultures, rather it will strengthen them. The real threat lies in the US trash culture being imported more and more (music industry, fast food, Hollywood). In many countries local foods are a very large part of the culture, especially in France. That is the reason, the country banned ketchup from schools and universities, to preserve the culture, so people would develop a sense of taste, being able to recognise, what is quality food, what are quality ingredients. The TV and radio there have significant limits on the amount of foreign movies/series/music is allowed.

Christianity is part of US culture, but to be honest, it has not been that way in Europe for a long-long time. The fact that it is in decline is rather positive than negative, as it will keep the nations less polarised and more educated. I do not know for sure, how it is for majority of people, but on internet I have seen way too many people rejecting science as a whole (not only evolution and big bang theory, but all STEM, which has created the tech we have). That is very negative.

No religion does not lead to higher crime rates or whatever similar. The crime rates are already lower in majority of EU countries compared to US, while near to all of them are significantly less religious. Scandinavia is one of the least religious areas in the world, yet they also have some of the lowest crime rates.

And to say it again, majority of European cultures are not faith-based. They are based on the local history, which is reflected in the music produced through centuries, the centuries-old architecture you can walk to any day, the local movie culture and local cuisines. Faith does not play much role, if any, in majority of cultures in Europe.