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For years, China has been systematically propping up the value of the U.S. dollar and keeping the value of the yuan artificially low. This has resulted in a massive flood of super cheap products from across the Pacific that U.S. consumers have been eagerly gobbling up.
For example, have you ever gone into a dollar store and wondered how anyone could possibly make a profit by making those products and selling them for just one dollar?
Well, the truth is that when you flip those products over you will find that almost all of them have been made outside of the United States. In fact, the words “made in China” are probably the most common words in your entire household if you are anything like the typical American.
Thanks to the massively unbalanced trade that we have had with China, tens of thousands of our businesses, millions of our jobs and trillions of our dollars have left this country and gone over to China.
And now China has apparently decided that there is not much gutting of our economy left to do and that it is time to let the dollar collapse. As I mentioned above, China has announced that it is going to stop stockpiling foreign-exchange reserves…
OceanSpray
the wealthy govt. and banks create debt from thin air and charge it to the citizens, we have been paying this fee for generations, a fee for something that creates nothing but debt. this debt based fee trickles into the bank accounts of the worlds wealthiest and they get paid to deliver nothing but misery. this serves them two purposes, one being it keeps them in power and two, it keeps the rest of the population in chains. these days are coming to a close as can be seen of the wealthy in a state of panic.
superman2012
reply to post by therealguyfawkes
Wow. Now that they are stopping this practice, I wonder how long it will be until they flood the market with greenbacks causing hyperinflation? They are the largest foreign holder of debt too. Interesting. I wonder if they are going to allow the yuan to go where it should have years ago?
OceanSpray
the wealthy govt. and banks create debt from thin air and charge it to the citizens, we have been paying this fee for generations, a fee for something that creates nothing but debt. this debt based fee trickles into the bank accounts of the worlds wealthiest and they get paid to deliver nothing but misery. this serves them two purposes, one being it keeps them in power and two, it keeps the rest of the population in chains. these days are coming to a close as can be seen of the wealthy in a state of panic.
Toadmund
OceanSpray
the wealthy govt. and banks create debt from thin air and charge it to the citizens, we have been paying this fee for generations, a fee for something that creates nothing but debt. this debt based fee trickles into the bank accounts of the worlds wealthiest and they get paid to deliver nothing but misery. this serves them two purposes, one being it keeps them in power and two, it keeps the rest of the population in chains. these days are coming to a close as can be seen of the wealthy in a state of panic.
Yes, this paragraph just reminded me that i am in debt because I do not have much money, especially since I have been out of work a couple times in the past year.
The pay stops but the bills keep coming.
(It's like a tax on poverty or something, the poverty penalty, just like the $ penalty for over-drafting your bank account, if wealth was more equalized, they would make less of it.)
Of course they have probably figured that if all the jobs go to China, borrowing will go up, the corporations win, the bankers and CC companies win, we lose.
We are the bleeding stones.
Anyway, I have wondered why the US dollar hasn't collapsed yet....China.
It's all a game they play, we can do that with monopoly money, problem is it doesn't have an assumed value.
How much is paper worth?
OceanSpray
superman2012
reply to post by therealguyfawkes
Wow. Now that they are stopping this practice, I wonder how long it will be until they flood the market with greenbacks causing hyperinflation? They are the largest foreign holder of debt too. Interesting. I wonder if they are going to allow the yuan to go where it should have years ago?
problem for china doing that is that like it or not, we're all connected, so in effect they can only move the pieces around the board, they have no way of doing anything else, unless they leave the game.
to raise the yuan, they would create havoc in their country, prices would skyrocket and their peoples would no longer be able to survive as they are. their goods would increase in price exponentially and would therefore not sell. all the global fiat based systems are linked together and can only change if the whole changes.
brace22
This is all bad I know bla bla de bla
But I have one question….
Why, if the US falls, has the whole blimmin world got to fall with it? I doubt China would do such a thing if it knew it was going to collapse as well. As far as I can see, more and more people are relying less and less on US. Therefore, if they go down, why should we all?
I am not bad mouthing America or Americans. I would say the same if it was any other country. I know the US has its many fingers in many, many, many pies, but not all financially.
If you ask me, America says the world is going to fall as scare mongering, to frighten others into helping it. I don't see America as the "Rulers of the world" anymore. There is no outright ruler or supremo. There are many countries who are gaining strength.
edit on 22-11-2013 by brace22 because: missed wordedit on 22-11-2013 by brace22 because: (no reason given)
I know they also have stockpiled hard currency....but they already sit on enough to flood the world with it, literally, in physical paper and not even digital version as I understand the numbers for China.
superman2012
OceanSpray
superman2012
reply to post by therealguyfawkes
Wow. Now that they are stopping this practice, I wonder how long it will be until they flood the market with greenbacks causing hyperinflation? They are the largest foreign holder of debt too. Interesting. I wonder if they are going to allow the yuan to go where it should have years ago?
problem for china doing that is that like it or not, we're all connected, so in effect they can only move the pieces around the board, they have no way of doing anything else, unless they leave the game.
to raise the yuan, they would create havoc in their country, prices would skyrocket and their peoples would no longer be able to survive as they are. their goods would increase in price exponentially and would therefore not sell. all the global fiat based systems are linked together and can only change if the whole changes.
Right, but if they place themselves to transition as the world reserve currency, with all the infrastructure, all the industries, all the manufacturing, what choice would the world have? Sure prices would skyrocket, but with the US in hyperinflation people in China might be better off as a communist country with higher wages. Then the government of China would be better off to provide for their people...or they would send out their drone workers across the world using their new found wealth to go out and purchase more of the same listed in my above post.
If the US dollar devalued and the Yuan actually went to where it should be, that would qualify as the whole global fiat systems changing does it not?