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Kangaruex4Ewe
elouina
We may never see him leave office. He said that he had no plans to run in 2016, but did he ever say that he would not be the president any longer?
He did. He said he would not run for a second term if he couldn't solve the nations economic problems in his first term. He lied about that, so it really wouldn't matter what he said about running in 2016. I don't think he has any plans to leave the White House in 2016 either.
The most transparent administration turned quickly into the most secretive administration almost over night. I often wonder why they even bother to lie anymore. . . .
He should be called out on this, but he won't be. The issue will die like all the others with a few shouts of racism bandied about and the ones asking the questions run back to their corners to cower in fear of being called such.
It's getting almost laughable. In an insane sort of way.
I think what we see here is what we've been seeing come into existence since 2009. He outright states it in one speech he gave early on by saying there should be a Civilian Defense Corps as well funded and supported as the United States Military. Well, when he said that, the Pentagon was pushing 1 trillion a year in combined spending across the board, with no signs of slow down. It was a sobering thing to hear said by a man vying to be President.
jude11
I believe Obama has slowly slipped over the deep end into believing that he is truly untouchable and is indeed the World's true Lord and Master.
I also believe that he is in for an awakening very soon. The people are going to make sure of it.
Hopefully....
Peace
Taissa
Are these the "navigators" that they were talking about?
elouina
hopenotfeariswhatweneed
now why is that this reminds of the story of hitlers rise to power ?
You got me looking and I am shocked to say the least... I though you were kidding.... It was all a bunch of little steps that no one noticed.
9] Hitler's vitriolic beer hall speeches began attracting regular audiences. He became adept at using populist themes targeted at his audience, including the use of scapegoats who could be blamed for the economic hardships of his listeners.[90][91][92] Historians have noted the hypnotic effect of his rhetoric on large audiences, and of his eyes in small groups. Kessel writes, "Overwhelmingly ... Germans speak with mystification of Hitler's 'hypnotic' appeal. The word shows up again and again; Hitler is said to have mesmerized the nation, captured them in a trance from which they could not break loose".
To achieve full political control despite not having an absolute majority in parliament, Hitler's government brought the Ermächtigungsgesetz (Enabling Act) to a vote in the newly elected Reichstag. The act gave Hitler's cabinet full legislative powers for a period of four years and (with certain exceptions) allowed deviations from the constitution.[150] The bill required a two-thirds majority to pass. Leaving nothing to chance, the Nazis used the provisions of the Reichstag Fire Decree to keep several Social Democratic deputies from attending; the Communists had already been banned.[151]
To give his dictatorship the appearance of legality, Hitler based many of his decrees on the Reichstag Fire Decree. That decree was in turn based on Article 48 of the Weimar Constitution, which gave the president the power to take emergency measures to protect public safety and order. Thus, Hitler could now rule under a form of legal martial law.
Adolf Hitler
edit on 17-11-2013 by elouina because: (no reason given)
BO XIAN
Why anyone who noticed how they kept his college grades & info secret; his membership in the elite gay romp club in Chicago secret; his true birth secret; illegal immigrant status secret; his fraudulent social security card secret;
Chance321
reply to post by elouina
Don't forget obamas also rebuilding the military by replacing several top ranking generals. That should also be ringing some alarms.
beezzer
As much as I disagree with Obamas' policies, I can't believe that he would have a private army.
Who would man this army?
What would they do?
What conditions would arise that would enable this army to operate?
And if they did, the armed populace would still out-man, out-gun any army that our feckless leader would create.
The other problem I see is, like Egypt, once the army is armed and manned, what would stop it from turning on the government?
Obama is a liar. He is a crook. He is a bad politician, a lousy leader.
But he isn't stupid.
xuenchen
reply to post by Wrabbit2000
I think what we see here is what we've been seeing come into existence since 2009. He outright states it in one speech he gave early on by saying there should be a Civilian Defense Corps as well funded and supported as the United States Military. Well, when he said that, the Pentagon was pushing 1 trillion a year in combined spending across the board, with no signs of slow down. It was a sobering thing to hear said by a man vying to be President.
and here he is......and very strong about it too !!
I think they are finding ways to bypass the Posse Comitatus Act and establish more 'ground forces' within the States.
Keep in mind that even the U.S. Coast Guard is exempted from Posse Comitatus.
"Obama Civilian Security" 2008
xuenchen
reply to post by Wrabbit2000
I think what we see here is what we've been seeing come into existence since 2009. He outright states it in one speech he gave early on by saying there should be a Civilian Defense Corps as well funded and supported as the United States Military. Well, when he said that, the Pentagon was pushing 1 trillion a year in combined spending across the board, with no signs of slow down. It was a sobering thing to hear said by a man vying to be President.
and here he is......and very strong about it too !!
I think they are finding ways to bypass the Posse Comitatus Act and establish more 'ground forces' within the States.
Keep in mind that even the U.S. Coast Guard is exempted from Posse Comitatus.
"Obama Civilian Security" 2008
six67seven
Chance321
reply to post by elouina
Don't forget obamas also rebuilding the military by replacing several top ranking generals. That should also be ringing some alarms.
It's ringing my alarm! He is getting rid of top brass for questionable reasons, almost like the reasons are made up. I've never seen anything like it. Just like all the whistleblowers he has prosecuted, after saying they need more protection. Obama can't leave soon enough. I can't imagine the next president being worse but then again I thought the same about Bush.
Ask yourselves how this gracious reception of our petition agrees with these war-like preparations which cover our waters and darken our land. Are billions of hollow point rounds and tens of thousands armored assault vehicles accrued by the Department of Homeland Security necessary to a work of love and freedom for the people? Do we as a people have an inseparable right, as inseparable as the life in our veins, to privacy from the snooping eyes and ears of the government we supposedly rule? Have we shown ourselves so unwilling to be reconciled, that force and spying against us is necessary? Let us not deceive ourselves, my fellow Americans. These tools we are seeing put in place all around us are the implements of war and subjugation; and these tools are always, throughout the history of civilizations, the last methods to which tyrants resort. I ask, fellow Americans, what means this deadly and provocative assortment of weaponry, if its purpose is not to force us to the submission of tyranny? Can gentlemen assign any other possible motive for it? Have we any enemy, in this quarter of the world, to call for all this accumulation of domestic show of force and spying?
No, fellow Americans, we have none; and should there be a threat so great as to build a societal prison around us, we the people should be allotted every bit of knowledge to the data stating as such. To be sure, every nation has her enemies, foreign and domestic, but the enemy we should be prepared to face is the one we can already see; and I respectfully contend with no doubt of mind that the writing of the intent of these war-like preparations can be seen clearly in the deceptive and highly guarded agenda of our officials. In this dire hour of our nation, make no mistake, these domestic armies and spy programs are meant for us; they can be meant for no other.
It is easy to believe the lie, my fellow Americans, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a government camera, microphone, and DHS armored battle vehicle surround each house? Shall we gather strength by inaction?
It is in vain to extenuate the matter. The people have begged, “Please! Please! Provide us peace from your tax men, less regulation on individuals struggling for the simplest of success, more self privacy, freedom from brutal and unjust law enforcement!”; but there is no peace, privacy, or chance at uninhibited individual success. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the District of Columbia, our nation’s capital city, will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle?
MrSpad
six67seven
Chance321
reply to post by elouina
Don't forget obamas also rebuilding the military by replacing several top ranking generals. That should also be ringing some alarms.
It's ringing my alarm! He is getting rid of top brass for questionable reasons, almost like the reasons are made up. I've never seen anything like it. Just like all the whistleblowers he has prosecuted, after saying they need more protection. Obama can't leave soon enough. I can't imagine the next president being worse but then again I thought the same about Bush.
The top brass are not leaving at any level higher than normal in fact its been a little low. For example in 2007 a completely average year, 39 three and four star Generals left the service for a variety of reasons. And that is just 3 and 4 star. Between 2009 and 2011 108 left service, that is an average 36 a year. Some forced out some leaving on their own just like now. Now if you want to see a high year you have to look for a big scandal and Tailhook in 1991 ended the careers of 14 admirals not to mention the other 300 lower ranking Navy Officers. That year would be something you could look at and say maybe that is a purge, of course it was just a scandal. So far this year it has been a bit slow.
GenerationGap
MrSpad
six67seven
Chance321
reply to post by elouina
Don't forget obamas also rebuilding the military by replacing several top ranking generals. That should also be ringing some alarms.
It's ringing my alarm! He is getting rid of top brass for questionable reasons, almost like the reasons are made up. I've never seen anything like it. Just like all the whistleblowers he has prosecuted, after saying they need more protection. Obama can't leave soon enough. I can't imagine the next president being worse but then again I thought the same about Bush.
The top brass are not leaving at any level higher than normal in fact its been a little low. For example in 2007 a completely average year, 39 three and four star Generals left the service for a variety of reasons. And that is just 3 and 4 star. Between 2009 and 2011 108 left service, that is an average 36 a year. Some forced out some leaving on their own just like now. Now if you want to see a high year you have to look for a big scandal and Tailhook in 1991 ended the careers of 14 admirals not to mention the other 300 lower ranking Navy Officers. That year would be something you could look at and say maybe that is a purge, of course it was just a scandal. So far this year it has been a bit slow.
What was it in 2005, 1997, and 1985?
And where's your link to the data? I searched but haven't found anything.
The reason I'm interested in these dates is because they are relevant to the discussion of "Is it abnormal to see so many top level military officials leave service, forced or unforced, after an incumbent's re-election?"
That to me is the least likely time you would see departures. The end year(s) of a two term President (2007) would be my hypothesis as the peak time for *unforced retirements and departures. Again, that's simply a hypothesis that I would like to disprove with reliable data. I wouldn't expect the purging to occur after a re-election, if the claim that there is a purging going on is true.
* Data on forced and unforced leaves of top brass would be something of substantial benefit as well.
Any researches out there want to help develop a serious article? Your name will be in the credits. Only valid sources need be submitted, all others denied.edit on 17-11-2013 by GenerationGap because: (no reason given)