Russia in the Middle East: Return Of The Bear

reply to post by shapur


Yes, and lets not forget Israel.
Might as well get that into the mix too.

The GUT
Pretty hard to deny the writing on the wall.

Speaking of the end of the world, have you seen Putins take on it?

reply to post by burntheships


fascism IS socialism and so is communism. they are 2 similar forms of government as far as the control they wield at the federal level, which typically involves survival of the fittest under the guise of various social benefits. for example, refusing to treat the elderly so the healthy and/or young, may survive. refusing to acknowledge the value of human life, regardless of age, so that we end up watching a parapalegic starved to death on national television. also whether you believe in god or gods, or not. or who you think god is. stalin and lenin wanted the people to believe the government was god, that the leaders were god, and that a spiritual god didn't exist, which is just holy roman empire part 2 - the new, updated version.

in fascism, god is whoever the people say. so if the people say god is a tree, then you have to agree that god is a tree or you are a blasphemer, a heretic, and therefore disruptive to the democratic good. you get the idea.

reply to post by burntheships

Wow! World Leader, Judo Expert, Adventurer, Topless Super Model, and now: Science Adept! Dude really makes Obama look like a diabolical Urkel in comparison.

undo
fascism IS socialism and so is communism. they are 2 similar forms of government as far as the control they wield at the federal level, which typically involves survival of the fittest under the guise of various social benefits...in fascism, god is whoever the people say. so if the people say god is a tree, then you have to agree that god is a tree or you are a blasphemer, a heretic, and therefore disruptive to the democratic good. you get the idea.

Sounds right to me. Coming soon to a FEMA Region near you!

Doesn't the aftermath of a tanked economy have to come first? In Russia, and other places, the citizens had endured hardships for a long time and had worked out their own systems of goods trade and survival by the time economy went totally cold.

Here, it's gonna be a whole new ballgame it seems. *Cue the Music Again*

reply to post by undo


Yes, I do get the idea, and good comments.

I am wondering though if it may be time for a 'new kind of god', you know.
One better suited to these modern day times? Although as archaic as it is,
some people still follow the guise of praying to Mary, and The Pope.

I wonder what Putin thinks of Aliens?

This is the strange part of the deal here,
is seeing Mr. Putin onboard with these radical Islamic
countries.

the2ofusr1
I heard on the news earlier that Putin got his 9th degree black belt .just sayin

I thought you were kidding, then I looked at the news.




Putin earns 9th-degree blackbelt, now tougher than Chuck Norris

nypost.com...

reply to post by burntheships


it isn't strange if you would just come to grips with the fact the leaders are all on the same page. what you see on the news and read on the net, is a drama, a fakery, an enactment, meant to social engineer large groups. did you watch the capitalists funded the bolshevik revolution?
you may be familar with the statement -- socialism for the elite and capitalism for everyone else. that is absolutely backwards. it's socialism for everyone else and capitalism for the elite. the capitalists fund the communist revolutions, in agreement with the communists. not just because its good business, but because its the long range plan.

some former communists, realized communism doesn't work, and that it only survives to predate its own people because some capitalists are willing to fund it, train its new workers, and supply its technology. it's a sweet deal for the globalists as communist revolution steals EVERYTHING from its own people and the globalists reap the benefits in league with the communist government. i'm not addressing fascism at the moment because everyone is focused on russia in this thread. that whole thing is a joke. they are all friends at the top, even the muslim leaders are because socialism is the first key to the conquest, in that case in the form of fascist socialism. the second key is proving the first key is crazy wacko..

reply to post by The GUT


Well, I must say he did not waste any time with this move,
and looks like he has already been on the phone with Assad this morning.
He is pretty slick.


Vladimir Putin calls Bashar Assad to discuss Syrian peace moves
www.ndtv.com...

reply to post by undo



Yes, yes I follow you Undo. I do see this very clearly, perhaps it is just the
facade of "religious" beliefs they have put up that can seem confusing.

There will come a day when they let that take second place, as
they take part in The Beast.

undo
it's a sweet deal for the globalists as communist revolution steals EVERYTHING from its own people and the globalists reap the benefits in league with the communist government. i'm not addressing fascism at the moment because everyone is focused on russia in this thread. that whole thing is a joke. they are all friends at the top, even the muslim leaders are because socialism is the first key to the conquest, in that case in the form of fascist socialism. the second key is proving the first key is crazy wacko..

And they are doing just that. Exactly.

Russia has to try and make some moves in an area it is losing its market. With Iraq gone, Libya gone, Syria on its way down, and now Iran flirting with the west Russia is at risk of losing all its markets in Mid East. It is trying to make moves Egypt but, that is only going to work so far as the US has the Egyptians cuts off. The second that ends they will be rush back to the US with open arms. Same problem Russia has in Africa, where it lost all its influence to the US and in some cases China.

The problem with the Russians is they do not have much to offer beyond cheap weapons. And if your just facing other with cheap Russian or Chinese weapons thats ok but, if your facing a Western armed nation your screwed. So long as Egypt has Israel on its border it will never be satisfied with Russian weapons as they have failed them to many times. Same with the Saudis and the Gulf States. If Iran defects and becomes a US client state that entire region is lost to the Russians. Russia military weakness also plays a role in this. They can not project power so they would not be any help if it was needed.

Russia can not compete with the West in quality and is losing the cheap weapons market to the Chinese.

MrSpad

Russia can not compete with the West in quality and is losing the cheap weapons market to the Chinese.

This is a very pertinent issue, and even if Egypt thinks it can have both,
I highly doubt that. And further, how would the systems integrate?
Russian design vs Western MIC.

Will be interesting to see what happens here.

burntheships
reply to post by Mamatus

 

Thank you much for your comments, and relating your personal
take there. That info coming from Rand seems spot on,
they would know after all, wouldn't they?

And, as you have outlined it well, it is all true
and supported by current events and news.
Granted, things could change, but I do not
see a reversal coming.

The sleeping bear is awakened, and is coming down from the North.

...and probably lift it's leg on Britain on the way past..lol
We deserve it.. we're assholes too!

reply to post by burntheships


have you been keeping tabs on south africa? you should. that's the model they are trying to run here, under the pretense that the income disparity along racial lines, in the usa, is akin to south africa's apartheid. what they don't tell you is that socialism absolutely ruined our inner cities, thereby insuring the disparity the moment the minorities had the chance to succeed as a result of humane laws governing voting and hiring practices. they did this deliberately because they needed a standing army they could count on to take down our country, internally.

however, socialism doesn't value human life. they sell it to people that way but once you have it, it's like an orwellian nightmare. the people of south africa are starving. whenever the black population starts to protest and complain, the leaders point at the remaining whites that have farmland, the white farmers are murdered and now the farm no longer produces food. as a result, the vicious cycle repeats, swirling farther and farther down the hellhole

in the usa, they stoked the fires of racism, by convincing minorities that what the globalists do, is the fault of your average american worker. that was essential for the soviet communist revolution as well, since they needed to kill all their factory workers and other educated or skilled labor to remove any potential backlash.

notice how everyone is blaming us for the ills of the world, when its actually the globalists running the show and they are international.

all by design.

undo
reply to post by burntheships

 

have you been keeping tabs on south africa? you should.

Yes, one thing I noted years ago was the move that al qaeda was moving into Africa,
I figured that this was one of the next targets of the globalists, and low and behold
now look and you see that the IMF is there with deals galore for 'women' and their
medical issues, and deals for power companies, etc. Yep.

notice how everyone is blaming us for the ills of the world, when its actually the
globalists running the show and they are international.

all by design.

Indeed, I think I have tried to make this point here also, and other places.
This goes for the NSA also, at least IMO.

And, I dont think there was any mistake about who our transitional leader
was to be, that was by design also.

reply to post by burntheships


first people they kill in a communist revolution, are their own supporters. they make darth vader look like a nice guy. so expect them to target unions and blame it on the average american

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reply to post by burntheships

 

first people they kill in a communist revolution, are their own supporters. they make darth vader look like a nice guy. so expect them to target unions and blame it on the average american

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That's kind of like the old time pirates.

They always buried the people who dug the holes along with the treasure chests.

reply to post by burntheships


Of course he's not afraid. In 4 Billion years his remains would most likely be dust or possibly become fossil fuel for some future vehicles gas tank.

most people, when they watch videos like this, immediately have a partisan reaction. i would ask you to set aside your party affiliation long enough to realize what the actual implications are. they threw the unions under the bus. and then, blamed it on anybody that had a job.



nafta was the death nail in detroit. and how did we get nafta?

i know some conservatives are not fond of michael moore but he's telling it like it is in this video about what happened when nafta went into effect