Tai Chi and evolution

My spiritualist mate (friend), is big on yoga and Tai Chi
Cool but I am not interested
He keeps telling me how these exercisers develop (create) energy from within
So I ask him from where.
"From the depths of your soul" or something vague and elusive, possibly because heprobably doesnt really know.

That got me thinking about abiogenesis.

The simple question is where did the first life form obtain its energy from and how did it sustain its energy, how did this life form increase its energy source to a point where it could replicate itself

I am sure there will be a lot of guesses and assumptions but that is a mystery...surely

Have fun considering the question.

Dont reply, just think on what it means for something starting from nothing with no real viable energy source, reproducing.

Its had me thinking.

As for Tai Chi, how does that energu develop, from where.

Just wondering

reply to post by borntowatch

As for Tai Chi, how does that energu develop, from where.

I love me some Tai Chi and Kenpo, Tai Chi is a much more "elegant, and graceful" style.

Bruce Lee said something along the lines of, be like water, water does not fight, it just "flows", when water pulls back and then unleashes.... something.... something.... massive amounts of energy....

Anyway Tai Chi is an almost, well actually very meditative form of martial arts. Very "slow" and calm, once speeded up, it's like "Water".

The energy comes from intent and practice, almost like, if you know about the "kundalini rising" a.k.a the serpent.

I kinda just rattled a very crude lamans example.... You might have already known this, you might not have, have fun, cool thread~

borntowatch
energy
energy
its energy,
its energy
energy source

Please define "energy".
Clearly you arent using it in anything like the scientific definition... so it may be helpful to you, to try to define it in writing.

Your thread title is wrong, it should be called Tai Chi and Abiogenesis, because your thread has nothing to do with evolution.

Isn't life all about redirection? Transmutation of energy and such? Energy doesn't die, it just changes paths and forms. So what if Tai Chi is the art of gathering energy from its various dormant pools and redirecting it like one would an arrow by drawing and nocking it?

Potential energy to kinetic energy. Channeling the natural reservoirs of your body.

sulaw
reply to post by borntowatch

 

As for Tai Chi, how does that energu develop, from where.

I love me some Tai Chi and Kenpo, Tai Chi is a much more "elegant, and graceful" style.

Bruce Lee said something along the lines of, be like water, water does not fight, it just "flows", when water pulls back and then unleashes.... something.... something.... massive amounts of energy....

Anyway

Tai Chi is an almost, well actually very meditative form of martial arts. Very "slow" and calm, once speeded up, it's like "Water".

The energy comes from intent and practice, almost like, if you know about the "kundalini rising" a.k.a the serpent.

I kinda just rattled a very crude lamans example.... You might have already known this, you might not have, have fun, cool thread~

So is the Kundalini the energy source and exactly what is the Kundalini

alfa1

borntowatch
energy
energy
its energy,
its energy
energy source

Please define "energy".
Clearly you arent using it in anything like the scientific definition... so it may be helpful to you, to try to define it in writing.

Ahmmm... Yeah..... well no
Thats my question, I want the spiritualists to define the energy related to Tai Chi and possibly yoga

Where does it come from or is it created

Its not very difficult to answer if you are in the know

I think

Krazysh0t
Your thread title is wrong, it should be called Tai Chi and Abiogenesis, because your thread has nothing to do with evolution.

I have a different opinion, life has to evolve from nothing.
You will just have to accept we disagree.

Are you mature enough to accept that, or are you so righteous, my opinion has no value.

if you disagree with my stance I suggest you find another playground

Thanks

reply to post by borntowatch

In modern commentaries, Kundalini has been called an unconscious, instinctive or libidinal force.
It is reported that Kundalini awakening results in deep meditation, enlightenment and bliss. Many systems of yoga focus on the awakening of Kundalini through meditation, pranayama breathing, the practice of asana and chanting of mantras. In physical terms, one commonly reported Kundalini experience is a feeling like electric current running along the spine.

That's what Wikipedia has to say on the subject. Google can point the way if you want more. Make of it what you will. Sounds like something in the base of the spine affects the electrostatic channels of the human body. The Merkabah is one benefit of fully awakening and harnessing the Kundalini energies.

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It's the energy that starts at your base chakra and proceeds through all the way through your crown chakra.

I used it more as an analogy as the energy there talking about, I believe is one in the same.

Infinity, had an excellent POV regarding the energy as well.

From my experiance in Kenpo and Tai Chi, it's repetition and muscle memory in that you practice these kata's so much that it becomes 2nd nature in regards to movement and motion's taken.

Tai Chi, is the slowest of all arts and most beautiful and just as dangerous as all the rest when "utilized" in a bad situation. This is where you see the frail old "Asian" mother in martial arts movies take a simple step and push and the other goes flying.

It's the movement of that internal energy that is built up with "intent" to protect, defend and maime if need be. One can throw a punch, that does not mean it will do damage or protect if thrown in haste. If that same punch is thrown with intent and practice, you can cause more damage than even the person utilizing the skill realizes.

Chi energy, you should read up on it. It's very cool and very real, anyone who says it's not, never practiced any martial arts and actually felt it for themselves.

Pending your age, it's like in dragon ball z when Goku builds up his Chi Energy and then releases.... I'm laughing hard it's sound childing this Goku analogy, but it's actually spot on.

Best regards,

AfterInfinity
Isn't life all about redirection? Transmutation of energy and such? Energy doesn't die, it just changes paths and forms. So what if Tai Chi is the art of gathering energy from its various dormant pools and redirecting it like one would an arrow by drawing and nocking it?

Potential energy to kinetic energy. Channeling the natural reservoirs of your body.

I was under the impression that energy dispelled. Entropy

Though channeling the natural energy reservoirs is interesting

a little more thought needed to understand
as for kinetic energy, isnt that based on the natural laws, not discipline to build strength?

I have a DVD on Tai Chi called "Simply Tai Chi - Vitality, Relaxation, Balance"

I was wondering if I should try it out? It seems pretty cool.

sulaw
reply to post by borntowatch

 

It's the energy that starts at your base chakra and proceeds through all the way through your crown chakra.

I used it more as an analogy as the energy there talking about, I believe is one in the same.

Infinity, had an excellent POV regarding the energy as well.

From my experiance in Kenpo and Tai Chi, it's repetition and muscle memory in that you practice these kata's so much that it becomes 2nd nature in regards to movement and motion's taken.

Tai Chi, is the slowest of all arts and most beautiful and just as dangerous as all the rest when "utilized" in a bad situation. This is where you see the frail old "Asian" mother in martial arts movies take a simple step and push and the other goes flying.

It's the movement of that internal energy that is built up with "intent" to protect, defend and maime if need be. One can throw a punch, that does not mean it will do damage or protect if thrown in haste. If that same punch is thrown with intent and practice, you can cause more damage than even the person utilizing the skill realizes.

Chi energy, you should read up on it. It's very cool and very real, anyone who says it's not, never practiced any martial arts and actually felt it for themselves.

Pending your age, it's like in dragon ball z when Goku builds up his Chi Energy and then releases.... I'm laughing hard

it's sound childing this Goku analogy, but it's actually spot on.

Best regards,

Sounds cool
My question was about where this energy came from, not what it does

Energy cant just be there, it has to be taken in, stored and then used.

Where does this energy come from

reply to post by borntowatch


Energy enhances entropy. The more vibration, the more the chemical bonds are strained and the more that break and the less stable the remaining bonds are, etc. Fire is pure energy and it DESTROYS. Most things that are exposed to lots of energy will tend toward increasing incoherence. Like a statue in a room full of whirling marbles. Eventually, that statue will crumble in the force of the hailstorm. But if those marbles were just laying on the ground in some sort of pattern, perfectly calm and still...

You see what I'm saying?

AfterInfinity
reply to post by borntowatch

 

In modern commentaries, Kundalini has been called an unconscious, instinctive or libidinal force.
It is reported that Kundalini awakening results in deep meditation, enlightenment and bliss. Many systems of yoga focus on the awakening of Kundalini through meditation, pranayama breathing, the practice of asana and chanting of mantras. In physical terms, one commonly reported Kundalini experience is a feeling like electric current running along the spine.

That's what Wikipedia has to say on the subject. Google can point the way if you want more. Make of it what you will. Sounds like something in the base of the spine affects the electrostatic channels of the human body. The Merkabah is one benefit of fully awakening and harnessing the Kundalini energies.

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and the Kundalini energy is like abiogenesis, its just a belief in something with out logic.

This is like a rabbit hole

I am not interested in the effects, just the source.

Energy just doesnt exist from nothing in the real world

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I think a better question to ask is where do these life form get the willpower to live?

I think more questions pop for complex life form such as sentient with such things.

Simple forms of life, however is thought to have no thought at all, other then just "feed me", while sentient life forms have to make up an art to draw on that will.

AfterInfinity
reply to post by borntowatch

 

Energy enhances entropy. The more vibration, the more the chemical bonds are strained and the more that break and the less stable the remaining bonds are, etc. Fire is pure energy and it DESTROYS. Most things that are exposed to lots of energy will tend toward increasing incoherence. Like a statue in a room full of whirling marbles. Eventually, that statue will crumble in the force of the hailstorm. But if those marbles were just laying on the ground in some sort of pattern, perfectly calm and still...

You see what I'm saying?

Yeah I get that, thats my point.
Where does the energy come from if entropy is the natural state
The statue needs energy to be created, the marbles to whirl

Where do they come from if energy doesnt exist

Specimen
reply to post by borntowatch

 

I think a better question to ask is where do these life form get the willpower to live?

I think more questions pop for complex life form such as sentient with such things.

Simple forms of life, however is thought to have no thought at all, other then just feed me, while sentient life forms have to make up an art to draw to draw on that will.

It may well be a better question worth asking, but I am confused as to the energy that Tai Chi creates and where that energy comes from

If Tai Chi is a nothing but excercise, how does it create energy, not burn energy

reply to post by borntowatch

Yeah I get that, thats my point.
Where does the energy come from if entropy is the natural state
The statue needs energy to be created, the marbles to whirl

Where do they come from if energy doesnt exist

Set a box of marbles on a giant speaker and see how long it takes for the box to break open. This is the natural atomic state. Electrons are always playing demolition derby at the atomic scale. As electrons are lost, protons are lost because atoms like to stay balanced. And that starts a chain reaction. Atoms always possess some degree of energy, unless it's at 0 Kalvin, at which state all motion ceases.

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Who knows really. Would it be a simple bio-chemical reaction in the body where it doesn't use up any substance from ones diet, or does it use all the time.

Is it just firing up our nerves with it own bio-electricity(don't do it with any computing organ if you know what I mean, unless it a light touch)? Or is it just one own imagination playing tricks on their sensations.