God should be simple

So, I was thinking. I'm always reading about God and Spirituality and Religions and trying to find the truth in life.

I was thinking that Stephen Hawking can make string theory simple to understand, well at least the concepts, if not the mathematical formulas and such.

So God should be simple. If there really is God, then God should be simple to understand and the path to God should be easy to find and easy to follow. There should be literature and books and songs and poems and movies and sayings and interviews either from God or inspired by God or a 'real' spiritual teacher. And these should be easy to find, read and know as truth

That there isn't this abundance of simple truths out there in the real world for us to read and live, must mean that there is no God?

Just my thoughts for today. Where is this simple truth if it's out there? Or am I so immersed in the complexities and distractions of the modern world that I can't see it? Or, is there nothing there anyway?

reply to post by amazing


I know this is what you are looking for. Enjoy

Wikipedia

You are the most powerful being of the universe. You have split yourself up in to 7 billion different human beings, countless billions of other animals, you created the earth, the stars, all the extra-terrestrial races, all the other dimensions and planes of reality, and created the universe itself, because you are the universe. You are all of it, individually, and you are all of it collectively, because it’s all one being. It’s all you. When you judge others, you are judging yourself. When you see suffering in others, it’s really you suffering. To love yourself, is to love all of creation.

Does it get any more simple than that?

reply to post by xxshadowfaxx


That is simple, but you said that and why should I believe you? I've read that in Conversations with God as well and heard through a fiction book I just read that this theory was also mentioned in a long Indian Text as well.

reply to post by amazing


Do you believe in ghosts? Divine intervention or any beings at all?

reply to post by someguy6


Not Ghosts, I do believe in God, but I'm waffling on that. Today, not so much. I want to believe but I feel like it should be simpler to find the truth. Like with Christians, there is the bible, for spiritual people there is...10 thousand metaphysical books that you can't possibly vet in your lifetime.

reply to post by amazing


Lets' s break it down scientifically.


There is space and motion (which most call time), God is not a thing, God CREATES all things, therefore God is y
The space which holds all existence.

Space and things, consciousness and body, god is space - infinite everywhere

God is space, aware of - appreciating all. That is why God is love

If you want to understand god, then learn how. If you aren't going to believe what anyone tells you, and argue with them about it, then you're wasting your time. Learn sexual transmutation, learn how to come into the present moment, learn how to feel negativity fully, learn how to stop making an effort to meditate, because it takes no effort, we're just so used to it making an effort, that it seems like we have to make an effort to make no effort. God is an experience, it's within us, if we never go within, and always ask without, how can we ever expect to understand? If you look for your glasses, and you discover they're already on your face, you feel pretty stupid ...... God is the same thing. It's already within you, so stop looking. Go within, think less, feel more. Be intimate with yourself, love yourself, all parts of yourself. Loosen up, relax, feel the aliveness within you. Change your thoughts of negative ones to positive ones, by feeling negativity fully, saying yes to negativity is what will allow you to transcend it. Love negativity and thank it for the lessons it has taught you. Don't judge, be neutral, don't take anything personally and stop being a victim of ego. The best way to identify ego, is to recognize if there is a victim in any given situation, either yourself, or someone else. God is a state of consciousness, beyond thought, beyond mind, beyond body. You go into that state when you realize that you are not your mind or your body, but you are the awareness, the life that animates it. Then you discover that you are the entire universe and everything I mentioned in my previous post. Remember who you are.

reply to post by amazing


The Bible--so many different versions, from Christian to Muslim they all believe in the same God, just the argument over who the last prophet was. If you study it like i have the past so years you will find it funny how they coincide. But i do not believe in evolution, it was based on 19th century liberalism, which is still yet to be proven,

reply to post by amazing


Well, the logic you're using isn't the greatest.

You're taking a concept picked up from steven hawking - a concept expressed discursively - and for someone reason you think that because of string theory - a finite concept 0 can be understood "simply" or elegantly, that means God should also be understood "simply".

I'm not seeing the logical connection between the two.

Lets assume that God is the sum of all existence. Take all that exists, from physical things, to non-physical things, like consciousness, love, hatred, thoughts. All this is an "emanation", so to say, of the Godhead (God in himself).

How could a physical law ever subsume a concept which involves non-physical things?

God already IS simple. That's the intuitively recognized reality. And the discursive elucidation of God is probably never going to happen, inasmuch as there are so many unknowns which cant be known.

Take the human eye for an analogy. We see a visual field.180 degrees. It seems "whole" to us, but in reality, we have a blind spot caused by the optic nerve. That we don't see it is a trick of our imaginations - it fills in the gap.

Likewise, there's things about reality and existence - like our conscious perceptions of existence - that cant be subjected to analysis.

We are always "in the system", and so can never have the vantage point of the whole.

reply to post by amazing

Well, it was simple in the beginning. Then men got ahold of the story and they modified it to suit their agendas. Thats pretty simple too.Remove men from the story and you got nothing to look for but Spirit. Try that.

And keep it simple as well.

The "Kingdom of Heaven" is within you… not in others interpretations, or books they wrote or sermons they preach or places they build. It is in you.

What is so hard to understand that spirituality, is not an external experience? Reading books about it do not give you the experience in which the books came from. Do you ride a bike by reading a book?

Spirituality is an internal experience. If you aren't doing internal work, then you're not understanding spirituality. Period. Books can be guides, that is all. The internal experience is profound, paradigm shifting, life changing and beautiful. It's the letting go of all that you are not, so that you can become who you really are. It's an internal experience. It's an internal experience. It's an internal experience. It's an internal experience. Do you understand that its an internal experience? An internal experience is something that happens, within what you perceive to be your body. You go within your body, internally. You lose all sense of the external world, and while you are in the internal, you discover the love of your own being, and your connection to the source of all life. Which is the universe, which is consciousness, which is what people call GOD. It's all internally within you. All plants, grass, trees, they all understand their connection to source, they never stop growing, they change with the season, and they never give into fear, they live in love and allow whatever happens to them to be okay. Human beings have a physical brain that gets in the way of that understanding, so we must go beyond our physical brain to understand the metaphysical internal connection we have, much like the grass, plants and trees. It's an internal experience. Wisdom comes in the form of feeling. We know automatically what it feels like to go to the bathroom, we don't have to be taught that. We know what sadness feels like, we know what joy feels like, we know what depression feels like, we know what tiredness and hunger and nervousnes feel like... we don't have to be taught, because these things are INTERNAL experiences. Well guess what.... Divinity is an internal feeling, as is oneness, as is the divine feminine, also known as the kundalini, there is no mistaking these feelings, as we understand them like we do all other feelings, without having to be taught. That's why its called intuition, which is, untaught knowledge. It's all done internally. It's and internal experience that everyone can have whenever they are ready to put aside the books and the dogma and question all they believe they think they know. Because I can tell your right now, that you know absolutely nothing. You think you already know a lot, and that you're intelligent, but intelligence comes from the external world, something you learn from books and experiences, but intelligence cannot grasp what is internal. So you must go beyond the intellect and into the internal realm of your own being. Do you understand that it's an internal experience yet?

reply to post by xxshadowfaxx


I understand you don't believe in God and the next thing your going t mention is how christ wasnt crucified that it was all the early stage of Paganism, which is false. Because the Romans crucified many during their years as the great empire they were.

I'm not going to say anything of the sort. I don't believe in god because I've experienced god. and it was an incredible and beautiful life changing event. It was amazing and paradigm shifting and I no longer suffer from anything. It's great. I am free of ego, and my life has improved so much that I can't describe, it's magical. The kingdom of heaven is within you. But you can't enter into it unless you let go of your identification with ego.

God is complex beyond our understanding, yet is simple in what we need to know.

One of the most difficult struggles of existence as a human being is to "know thy place."

God exists. He created all that we know to be our reality. The simplicity He offers is to serve Him with all your heart. It is that simple. All of it is written within you. He wrote it, and we all feel it every day.

Resistance to God takes many forms, but in truth it is all the same folly.

The gate is narrow.

reply to post by xxshadowfaxx


Let go of your Ego? whoa whoa, how can you let go of your ego but still have strong belief in God when so many others are trying to bring you down? just look across the web, atheist are at an all time high across the world and your saying let go of your Ego? Last i recalled a the German Catholic Bishop was removed by the Pope for disparaging $42 million on renovations, now is the time to have the strongest Ego, because it is distinguishing the minds of to many young people who join the general public, with beliefs and bad morals.

reply to post by amazing


It is quite simple.

What is it people pray to and have faith in: God? or the promise that God exists?

What is it people invest in: God? or the promise that God exists?

What do people take as authority on God: God? or the promise that God exists?

When people learn about God, what do they learn it from: God? or the promise that God exists?

What is passed down from generation to generation: God? or the promise that God exists?

What of God reveals itself to the senses: God? or the promise that God exists?

What do we refer to when we think of it: God? or the promise that God exists?

reply to post by Aphorism


I was an alcoholic atheist for the longest time, so i can disprove everything you just mentioned in three minutes of conversation.

amazing
So, I was thinking. I'm always reading about God and Spirituality and Religions and trying to find the truth in life.

I was thinking that Stephen Hawking can make string theory simple to understand, well at least the concepts, if not the mathematical formulas and such.

So God should be simple. If there really is God, then God should be simple to understand and the path to God should be easy to find and easy to follow. There should be literature and books and songs and poems and movies and sayings and interviews either from God or inspired by God or a 'real' spiritual teacher. And these should be easy to find, read and know as truth

That there isn't this abundance of simple truths out there in the real world for us to read and live, must mean that there is no God?

Just my thoughts for today. Where is this simple truth if it's out there? Or am I so immersed in the complexities and distractions of the modern world that I can't see it? Or, is there nothing there anyway?

It is said somewhere that God is the First Principle e.g. THAT WHICH continuously IS before all things. If that is so, then perhaps you should try to set your Mind and heart on that which comes before all things on a daily basis in order to find your GOD. It cannot be simpler than this, can it?

Just a thought.

Aphorism
reply to post by amazing

 

It is quite simple.

What is it people pray to and have faith in: God? or the promise that God exists?

What is it people invest in: God? or the promise that God exists?

What do people take as authority on God: God? or the promise that God exists?

When people learn about God, what do they learn it from: God? or the promise that God exists?

What is passed down from generation to generation: God? or the promise that God exists?

What of God reveals itself to the senses: God? or the promise that God exists?

What do we refer to when we think of it: God? or the promise that God exists?

edit on 13-11-2013 by Aphorism because: (no reason given)

The narrative in the Bible never tries to argue or promise that God exists.
From cover to cover it assumes the reader already has that much figured out.