A message from sirius about comet ison (Channel: Darryl Anka)

reply to post by JadeStar


i can only direct you to the content of the material which is all over youtube..and therein lies the whole truth and you will get your own way of proof.
The problem is: you have a concept that "real aliens" would proof their existence. ANd you dont see that this condition renders itself from different believsystems about our reality you already have. Bashar explains deeply and openly why he does not give open proof. But the problem is : if i link that first you will only see that as a "proof" for your believe that he is a fraud. You will see this as an excuse . So in a way your believe will reinforce itself ....thats why i say: listen to him more than 2 hours.

as i am not good in english i will quote some youtube comments who better say what how i feel about the "not so imporant fact" that "ET is talking"....more imporant is what he says. Even if one day someone came to me and gave me proof that this is fake i would not want to miss ONE minute of the countless hours i invested in bashar!!!!!

i will quote some comments below this video..






You can find comments like that on every video from bashar..People who invest time in bashar never are dissapointed


"And regardless, maybe 's NOT channeling an extra terrestrial being, maybe it's just act, or wisdom that comes from himself, who knows, logically speaking if it is an act, he is a damn good actor and is fantastic and pulling alot of bull# out of his ass so to speak. But regardless of all that, the concepts make sense and more importantly, they make you think, that's all that matters in the end, whatever you choose to believe. That's how I feel about it."


"Amazing wisdom............ "


"Wow, whether or not he is projecting another entity or not, it doesn't matter the words ring true with my current belief system, simply amazing. As the Buddha said "do not believe anything you hear, even if I have said it, if it doesn't agree with your own experience", or something to that effect."

AliceBleachWhite
reply to post by kauskau

 

If anyone was given 600 hours of Nazi propaganda ... or Communist propaganda, basically 600 hours of ANY well oiled propaganda machine material, well, the same thing went on and goes on at Re-Education Camps.

Feel free to take in 600 hours of North Korean propaganda, too.

Some insight might then be gained in how easy it is to program folks into a cult following mentality.

haha..you "sceptics" find so many ways to not listen to bashar for over 1 hour...

Its a good way to secure your limited reality. But i will not have hope in you. I learned a lot about free will and reinforcement of believe. So...have a good life. Bye!!

reply to post by kauskau

For the ones on ATS that believe in channelings and the validity of it.

I would very much like to..however...out of billion of currently ongoing various channelings, with various gods or ET's...I have yet to see any of it ever proving to be right. Many of these channelers are predicting ET contact...whether tomorrow, december 2012, march 2013, october 2013, november 2013, practically every few months...there is a new ET contact to be made...I also remember vividly...the last year's Olympics was also supposed to be about ET contact on a global scale.

In the end...there is never a contact...but there is always some sort of lame excuse from the contactee...like...it was postponed or something

Anyway...it all sounds very cool...and funky...and SCI-FI (and if you like a good sci fi you're more incline to get hooked on it)...but sadly...in the end...there is no contact. More likely than not...there is no channelling. Just ravings of an attention hungry poor souls.

kauskau
reply to post by JadeStar

 

i can only direct you to the content of the material which is all over youtube..and therein lies the whole truth and you will get your own way of proof.
The problem is: you have a concept that "real aliens" would proof their existence. ANd you dont see that this condition renders itself from different believsystems about our reality you already have.

Got it. It's a bunch of (mostly unoriginal) "spiritual" (meaning untestable) "teachings", mixed with bad science.

I've seen this movie before. Go sell crazy somewhere else, we're all stocked up here.

Seriously, this would do better in the paranormal forum. Plenty of people talk to spirits and imaginary aliens there too.

If you post in an Alien forum, be expected for a level of proof that fits the subject. The same won't be asked in a new age, paranormal or religious forum as its all about belief and faith.


The simplest answer is usually the correct one. This guy is another charlatan who dupes people gullible enough to believe his 'predictions'.

I have a copy of comet ISON's orbit in Celestia. I guess I can make some predictions based on that too...

Channelling = Paranormal. Try again there maybe?

reply to post by MarioOnTheFly


bashar since 30 years! Predicts direct et contact (so that all know it) between our year of 2015 and 2030.. (he never said something different)

As i said: listen to him for moe than 2 hours.. I swear to you....You will know that this is real.

As i am not a native english speaker i can not really convince you in a different way.

In german i could really explain in a depth that would show you that i am not an idiot. I was sceptical to. I hated all that "new age" crap..i didnt believe in the idea of channeling and et contact. I only believed that we are not alone..

Whatever... maybe one of you sceptics is able to listen to him for 2 hours and than we talk again..

reply to post by kauskau


Would you not say that after 600 hours of watching this guy, its you who wants to believe it, considering the time you've put into 'believing it'?

kauskau

"How can anyone take this guy seriously?"


I understand. I would also not take him seriously if i only knew this video.


This thread is more for the people that already trust bashar...

I can not say anything against your view. I really understand it. But it frustrates me that people just call him a fraud without listening to him for more than 3 minutes.


It really takes more than that to be able to judge about him.


but ok...its really your free will.


I will not invest energy in communicating with people who just dont WANT to invest time in something like this.


For me back in the days when someone i really trusted showed me bashar I thought: What a douchebag..what idiots that believe in something like this. But there was also the thought: when a grand claim is made i will test it no matter what i think at the beginning. So i tested it..

now for over 600 hours. And i KNOW now wihout the slightest doubt that this is real contact to ET.

But i can not proof that for you. And they will not give you a 10 second proof also...WHY?

It would take 2 hours to explain that. And you seem not be open to this idea so i will not go into that.

I learned a lot about "sceptics" on Ats. And my advice: better invest energy somewhere else..

edit on 11-11-2013 by kauskau because: (no reason given)

You must be new to the whole new age/ channeling/ contactee thing

(And i dont mean that in a nasty way)

But everybody at first gets fooled by the love and light and promises made by these supposed divine beings, and nothing whatsoever happens, never.

Please, ask yourself one thing, just one thing, if these divine beings have such an important message, why would they give it to somebody that 99 per cent of the world have never heard of, and probably will not get the message from.
If they can channel to somebody who not give it to the news reporter or sports commentator during the world cup.

Oh, they arent on the right vibrations? lol give me a break

skyblueworld
reply to post by kauskau

 

Would you not say that after 600 hours of watching this guy, its you who wants to believe it, considering the time you've put into 'believing it'?

i started to believe after i listend to it for 4 -5 hours..But the reason to listen to him was not for believing that this is real but because i knew everything i wanted to know and this guy was the only one in my whole life who i really like to listen to for more than 10 minutes..
Its just awesome material. Even if he would be just a zen monk talking..i would listen to him for hours and hours.

Its great concepts that are usable and from my experience describe the truth of our reality in all ways.

And believe me: before bashar..i studied everykind of thing you can imagine in terms of "searching" for "truth" ...

kauskau
reply to post by MarioOnTheFly

 

bashar since 30 years! Predicts direct et contact (so that all know it) between our year of 2015 and 2030.. (he never said something different)

Only 17 years to be proven wrong like the other trance alien channellers... convenient. Plenty of time for a few books, perhaps a movie and a crap load more youtube videos to feed his need for attention.

As i said: listen to him for moe than 2 hours..

Time is valuable and a mind is a terrible thing to waste.

Besides, if he is right, all I have to do is wait for 2030 to roll around and I can talk to the aliens myself.

reply to post by kauskau

In german i could really explain in a depth that would show you that i am not an idiot

I'm not saying you're an idiot...far from it. But I tell you...I have listened and red...many of these channellings...from various contactees...they never ever come through.

Now, your Bashar guy is perhaps smarter than most...he has set the dates far into the future...so he can continue the channelling uninterrupted for at least 15 years by your account.

Tell me what makes him different than many that came before him...they all predicted certain things in the future...that future had now come and gone...nothing happened.

ET contact has been predicted by many up until this point in time...yet it never happened. Not on a global scale anyway.

What makes you so damn sure he is right ? Give me a bone...give me one good documented prediction by him...that has come through...and that it doesn't predict bad weather or constant wars or something rather mundane.

hmmm I think I heard a smacking of the lips at 147, maybe hes got a hunger on ;D

funBox

*well in the first video before op changed it , was there something wrong with the first vid? *smack*

Please, ask yourself one thing, just one thing, if these divine beings have such an important message, why would they give it to somebody that 99 per cent of the world have never heard of, and probably will not get the message from. If they can channel to somebody who not give it to the news reporter or sports commentator during the world cup.

How many concepts about reality do you think you got to have for the things you said..

How sure do you think one must be about the own interpretation of the reality to ask the question like you did.


In your whole questions there are at least 10 hidden paradigms you think are "reality" and you act like there CAN´T be another interpretation of reality that is more true than yours. Your concepts:

1. There is an objective universe with "ONE Humanity" in it and "ONE world"..

2. If aliens were real they would talk to humanity as a whole.
3. Reason for that believe: ..........
4. The frequency model of the universe is simplistic and therefore false
5. Explanations should be complex to be true...
6....

7......

8...




Let me ask you on thing: how do you come to conclusion that aliens would want to make contact to a civilization that did not choose to make contact.

And what do you think a choice is? Do you think choice is only that which you make when you are aware of it?
What do you believe you are? Are you a human that will die? Are you a spirit that will not die?

WHat do you believe this universe is? ....

Do you think that the way you think about reality could be "a hoax" itself?

kauskau

Let me ask you on thing: how do you come to conclusion that aliens would want to make contact to a civilization that did not choose to make contact.

Plenty of people in my field of study have chosen to make contact.

These aliens don't seem to interested in talking to them through trance states though. Considering these people tend to know vastly more about the universe than this guy you'd think they might at least want to have a chat.

Nope, its more likely this guy has some sort of messiah complex.

reply to post by kauskau


But the thing is, where are they? You see, where he claims they are, as pointed out, is too young to have an ancient wise race.

Ahh what am I arguing logic for, this is fantasy. It requires no logic.

kauskau
As i said: listen to him for moe than 2 hours.. I swear to you....You will know that this is real.

I don't understand. What is so magic about the two hour mark?
Is that how long it takes for the hypnosis to sink in?

As someone else already posted ... if you listen to crap long enough, you'll buy it.
The nazis droned on and and on until it sunk in and people believed their B.S.
Anyone can do that .... Nazis, Imams, 'alien channelers', Ministers .... whoever ....

Sorry.

[I] MarioOnTheFly[/I]


What makes you so damn sure he is right ? Give me a bone...give Me one good documented prediction by him...that has come through...and that it doesn't predict bad weather or constant wars or something rather mundane.

I am a hyper sensitive person. When i was young i had problems with that because my perception is different than the perception of many people and so sometimes i act strange because there can be to much information....
I sense really small details and it is not possible for people to lie to me more than e few minutes without showing signs.

The first thing i noticed with bashar is that at LEAST : darryl anka does not know he is fraud because he shows no signs of lying at all. NOt in his normal state as darryl anka, and not in his state as bashar.

The second sign is the way bashar processes information. Normally when asked something complex every human i perceived until i saw bashar has the tendency to process information through memory. Thats where it gets difficult for me to explain how i perceive people that "use" their memory to process information. Just believe me: there is a difference between a "flow state" and a state of "memorizing things".. Every human is now and than in a flow state and processes information "live" without having to "use the memory" system. But i never saw someone doing it for more than a few minutes..
AND important: lying can not be done in a flow state. Because "a motif of hiding things" is not possible without using the "memory system".

The first time i started to see that what bashar does is not human ...was When he was asked if something like "astrology" exists in "their" system.

Don't take my word for it.


-> fast forward to 6 minute 13
www.youtube.com...



Just listen to his answer .and the way he answers...In all this 30 years i only heard him talk twice about astrology....I say that because you got to know that this is not a field which is interesting for bashar or a field which is improtant in his "thouhgt system". But this is the way he always answers no matter which question.

I can only say: if you dont see that the way answers is "beyond human".... if you just think this is "just intelligent"....than i can not really explain you why i believe this is the real deal.

I just can´t ...

When it should be the case you will find your own "proof" than...if you are open to the possibility of him being real.
if not...reality will one day give you a sign that ET contact in this way was real for a long time.

We are in time of shift.

I can understand that you dont trust channelers.. I also only trusted bashar and Seth.

FlyersFan

kauskau
As i said: listen to him for moe than 2 hours.. I swear to you....You will know that this is real.

I don't understand. What is so magic about the two hour mark?
Is that how long it takes for the hypnosis to sink in?

As someone else already posted ... if you listen to crap long enough, you'll buy it.
The nazis droned on and and on until it sunk in and people believed their B.S.
Anyone can do that .... Nazis, Imams, 'alien channelers', Ministers .... whoever ....

Sorry.

no its the other way around: it will take time to lift the hypnosis you are in and to see clear....

The scepticism will be like a veil..you will not perceive Bashar until your "inner voice" stops talking. And when it does you will begin to open to the information he gives. And you will "listen" for the first time without "reflecting only your scepticism"...

And the intelligence and flow and the content of the answer will "resonate" with your "body"..in a way that shows you intuitivly that he is speaking from a point of truth. But you will not see that until you are open enough and that takes some times. Thats the beginning. You will get answers from that point. We live in a resonance system.

kauskau

AliceBleachWhite
reply to post by kauskau

 

If anyone was given 600 hours of Nazi propaganda ... or Communist propaganda, basically 600 hours of ANY well oiled propaganda machine material, well, the same thing went on and goes on at Re-Education Camps.

Feel free to take in 600 hours of North Korean propaganda, too.

Some insight might then be gained in how easy it is to program folks into a cult following mentality.

haha..you "sceptics" find so many ways to not listen to bashar for over 1 hour...

Its a good way to secure your limited reality. But i will not have hope in you. I learned a lot about free will and reinforcement of believe. So...have a good life. Bye!!

edit on 11-11-2013 by kauskau because: (no reason given)

Wallowing in ignorance is not something to brag about. Refusing to listen to logic is not something to be proud of.

And the number of hours you require in order to 'believe' this guy, is not an effort to be admired.

As said, it's an old technique to have a charismatic person recite the same things over and over and over until you are incapable of thinking any other way. Wether he knows he's doing this or not, it's not the problem. The problem as I see it, is those who swallow it.

He may not know better, as I've stated, but I cannot tell him otherwise. You on the other hand, have the wealth of information at your fingertips, the ability to use reason and logic, yet you refuse to do so, and embrace his words as truth.

as illogical and nonsensical as they are, you consider them 'wise words' and that is the end of it. That is absolute ignorance. Sad, and pitiful, ignorance.

If only one small short lived human being was so important that an entire race of enlightened beings in another galaxy would keep him in confidence... if only..

winofiend
reply to post by kauskau

 

But the thing is, where are they? You see, where he claims they are, as pointed out, is too young to have an ancient wise race.

Ahh what am I arguing logic for, this is fantasy. It requires no logic.

again so many paradigms you think are the truth and which are the basis for your disbelief.

Time is not as linear as you think. Different universes have different frequencies of "time progression"...

but if you are interested in topics like M-Theory, quantum physics and parallel universes..bashar is a better teacher and i am not a good ambassador because i can only understand english but not speak it in a way that would be needed for concepts like this!!

i Will invest my energy somewhere else now.

All doors are open if they want to be opened. All doors are closed when they want to be closed.