Divide and Conquer is a lie, they like Unity for control!

Division makes it harder to control all. Instead they want to force unity upon all for huge control. This is why Order out of Chaos is more popular. To them division, diversity, difference, uniqueness is all chaos.

This is why it is politicaly "incorrect" to be mean or unacceptinf it messes up their plans for complete unity for control.


If people don't like what you say or your style they can deny you a job. Unless you lie and say you accept all you can LOOSE your job!

You don't even have freedom of speech many words arw banned because they are "mean" and not "accepting".

Also, censorship. Appearantly a penis, breast, or words are "evil" .

I would say they are playing with both sides.

For an open "freedom" inclined government, they will encourage differences, but each differences HAS to follow a strict line of conduct, to insure the uniqueness of each.
Instead of having one powerful united group in front of you, you have a multitude of small forces. Each easily manipulable to attain certain goals.

For a more dictatorial type of government, you have to insure your own supremacy and use it to put down any semblance of resistance. Being all the same color then allows to easily recognize those that stand out.

well... no. Its really "divide and conquer".

Last time you really tried to "unite" something the result was the NSDAP and nazi germany... an economic recuperation from bankruptcy to superpower in 6 years and a single nation proud standing united and ready to take the world head on - which of course had to be squashed.

I dont think they'll ever let that happen again. Keep them divided, even inside their household while dad wants to watch football and the kid is watching trash tv like jersey shore alone in his bedroom so later the gap will be so great that even father and son have nothing in common.

I think diversity creates unity. It forces society to become ever more inclusive, ever more all-encompasing, until collective identity revolves only around tolerance. Not a bad thing in itself. But here's the catch : with such an identity, rejection of society's values is automatically equated to intolerance. Nonconformism becomes bigotry.

FraternitasSaturni
well... no. Its really "divide and conquer".

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actually both you and the OP are wrong
because you're missing half of the key

it's:

"Divide and Conquer,

Unite and Rule."

once division leads to total Chaos
then a Unifier shows up to lead the masses to their new stables.

I think you are oversimplifying here. Besides, there is a difference between unity and conformity.

The government wants us to conform to their standard and use divisive tactics to that end.

You "divide and conquer" the enemy.

The ptb want their side unified to do the dividing and conquering.

By the way, is it just me or the meaning of "Divide and conquer" seems to be changing nowadays? I mostly see this expression being used to slam separatism and the likes. It's becoming sort of an umbrella term for social division.

No they don't !

Damn...

The concept of unity is what keeps us separated and divided in sub groups and even deeper.

groups unite to keep other groups distant, to defeat other groups, to take what the others have.

Unity is one big joke on humanity.


the moment before an asteroid impacts earth and we are all sent to oblivion is when it will dawn many,

Unity means you're the only one, you're the only conscious being with awareness of itself

all other beings inhabiting this experience with you are a reflection of yourself, you can choose to make this experience a pleasant one by treating yourself with love and respect or the other way round.


Its every individuals choice to fight, unfortunately unity is used deceive an individual into seeing a unity of a very very small part of the whole which by itself is quite overwhelming, (pick any individual group or belief system and see how much time can be spent researching and learning, one can spend a life time studying one group out of the millions)
Imagine being shown the whole picture and what true unity of the human race would look like and accomplish if stopped being so suicidal/homicidal.


Blown mind that you started this thread,

over the weekend I had the same or similar thought about how the concept unity is a joke, its used against us, its used to unite to do battle, instead of unite to prosper as a whole it unites so one group prosper and the other suffer.

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well... no. Its really "divide and conquer"

Yeah if there is a head to all this that is dictating which piece moves and when, Like the head of the Illuminati NWO, some figure like that, but I believe the power is distributed between a number of groups.

if there are separate groups running their own show and battling the other for power and control then unity is used in these sub groups by their leaders for the division between the opposing group,

It is divide between the opposing group but using unity initially to create the divide, in the end both sides are stilled conquered by their leaders that sent their own to do battle and die.

arpgme
Division makes it harder to control all. Instead they want to force unity upon all for huge control. This is why Order out of Chaos is more popular. To them division, diversity, difference, uniqueness is all chaos.

This is true to an extent. BUT. There is a certain percentage of society that they basically own and they know it. These people (while many of them might not be entirely braindead) do not like to rock the boat. They will not question anything regardless of what they really think.

Try it. Go to another forum that you're familiar with that isn't about conspiracies. Find a few people you know are pretty intelligent and start a debate with them about a conspiracy theory. Any conspiracy theory will do. But make sure you present it in such a way that they aren't even required to commit to it in order to acknowledge it as a possibility.

99% of the time (if not every single time) what you will see is smart, seemingly open-minded people will suddenly be completely stupid. Or that's the way they will seem.

Why? Because they are not stupid. There are actually a lot of intelligent people who know there's something going on. But they're afraid. They DO know something is up and none of them wants to be the nail that sticks up.

You see. Collectivism is a conditioning technique more than anything else. It doesn't work unless you can condition the majority to just mindlessly obey. And not just obey. Rarely do they actually give clear orders for people to obey or not. What they need is a population that senses which way they're supposed to go and just does it. Trying to talk to them is useless. They will always resist unless they go looking for answers by their own volition. And how likely is that for someone who has dedicated their whole life to the herd?

So you see. TPTB don't really need to control everyone. Just the majority. They certainly would rather separate those they cant control from those they can. Even though it isn't likely at all that the majority is ever going to start asking tough questions, they don't like to leave anything to chance.

They know they cannot directly control absolutely everyone. They have always known that. But even if you don't believe their BS, they are still indirectly controlling you because you'll be left with little choice other than to hang out with others like yourself. You're going to be far more comfortable on a forum such as ATS than you are on a forum filled with people who refuse to even think about the word "conspiracy" outside of a joke.

You don't even have freedom of speech many words arw banned because they are "mean" and not "accepting".

This has been going on for a long time. It's just getting worse now. It's easier to see. It was certainly already afoot in the 80s as I recall. It accelerated in the 90s and was running on inertia until recently when the left came out of hibernation and began pushing it hard again.

At the end of the day, the collectivist knows the reality of the situation. He knows that human nature is to be selfish. He knows that it's not natural to sacrifice yourself for the herd. So he goes with the flow and works WITH that fact rather than trying to change it (which he knows is impossible). He uses the survival instinct against you by making it very unpleasant to deviate from the herd.

And everyone knows instinctively that if they stray too far, they will stick out like a sore thumb. You learn this in school. Very quickly. You don't want to be the guy who wears funny clothes or has a different hairdo or whatever. It can be a little different but only if it's endorsed by the majority.

By the time you're an adult, you know better than to make waves. That's what school really is. Collectivist boot camp. That's why it doesn't really matter if you learn much on an academic level. What you're really learning is conformity.

BrianFlanders
By the time you're an adult, you know better than to make waves. That's what school really is. Collectivist boot camp. That's why it doesn't really matter if you learn much on an academic level. What you're really learning is conformity.

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This. I think you hit the nail on the head. I always viewed school as a miniature society, a sort of simulation of the adult world, with similar rules and similar hierarchies. Bullying is not a misconduct, it's an organized, systematic process. The reason it's so persistent is because it's tolerated. There's a tacit understanding that bullying is part of the lesson and should not be stopped.

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Perfectly said.

Now combine this with morality to play against human social-instinct , "it is bad to not be accepting - that is negative!"" and you can push the conformity even further religiously .

Then the individuals with their own preferences, likes and dislikes are bad for disliking something forced upon them