Hubble sees asteroid spouting six comet-like tails

OUTTA Box...
Found it odd when ELENIN was around some old satellites where failing and falling with debris visuals UARS for example but I think others were said to of fell with debris visuals as well. Was wondering would something similar go on again? Thanks CNN

reply to post by vind21


Ok, jets of gas was my initial guess, but the science paper points out that they are dust jets, and that the asteroid would have no water, being a metamorphosed rock (which means it experienced high temperatures and pressures).

The dust is visible due to it reflecting the Sun's light.

Ophiuchus 13
Is there any way to find out what the material is being seen ejected or released from this object, from EA*RTH?

Yes, by using spectroscopy.

SheopleNation
Well, apparently their brilliant hypotheses just turned out to be crap. Who knows what this thing could be. ~$heopleNation

Well, that's the beauty of science: we learn from new observations, unlike conspiracy nutters and crank theorists. Main-belt comets have been a mistery for a while now, but we will learn more. Scientists know that they don't know it all, and they are eager to find out.

This doesn't look like a normal comet. Nor Asteroid. However i did always love the ideas of an Ice Crystal type Asteroids so this object could be an Ice Crystal Asteroid which are quite rare.

Or unless its an UFO.

reply to post by InverseLookingGlass

Maybe someone will get the bright idea to observe for x-rays. It would indeed be odd to see x-rays coming from an asteroid wouldn't it?

What if that's a fact ? you mean its operating by something else? Did SETI not detect plasma coming from habitable planets or working towards that to support the Kepler findings?

The title of the article I read was more interesting.

www.theregister.co.uk...

'Weird' JET-PROPELLED SPACE OBJECT spotted LURKING NEAR MARS

So is this object being propelled by these jets?

A bizarre spinning object, described by NASA as "weird and freakish" and shooting jets of matter that causes it to move, has been spotted in our Solar System.

The mysterious rock, located in the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter, was seen spewing matter from its surface by the Hubble space telescope on September 10. Then in a second image taken on September 23 the asteroid, dubbed P/2013 P5, appeared to have swung around significantly.

So is this object actually changing directions?

Cloaking device on the fritz?

Maybe some team of anthropologists from a different planet are having vehicle problems.

Chamberf=6
reply to post by All Seeing Eye

 

I've found nothing that tells of this object's distance from Ceres. Some of the more recent articles are saying they are unsure if it is an asteroid or comet, so who knows? Some are saying it may be a MBC (Main Belt Comet). They are still trying to figure this thing out.

Just out of curiosity, though, why the fascination with Ceres and how it relates to this object?

edit on 11/8/2013 by Chamberf=6 because: (no reason given)

I apologize to any who I might offend, but with what I have witnessed in my lifetime I have decided that following the pied piper of accepted science is not going to lead to the truth.

Yes to science that has been proven to be correct and little assumptions are used. Science that is based on hard evidence and observations from honest observers. Actually, I'm quite surprised that "They", the scientific community have answered the question honestly, what is it? We don't know.

Science, like politics and religion are heavily corrupted with the greedy and selfish wanna be's that care not if the truth is revealed, as long as there is a buck to be made. There has always been competing theories put forth about every scientific theory or assumption. But it always seems the one theory that explains the observations simply and honestly seem to be conveniently swept under the rug, because someone cant make a buck, or they took an oath to a secret society.

Why Ceres? There is one of those competing theories that maybe, just maybe, planets do not form in the manner science wishes you to believe. They may also not be the geological form they want you to believe. They call Ceres a Dwarf planet. That's right, a planet. But I suspect it is not a Dwarf planet, but part of a preexisting planet. Ceres I believe is the extinct core of that planet, and the asteroids are what are left of the crust.

This ancient destroyed planet, "Tiamat" is scattered throughout the asteroid belt, and I strongly suspect, remnants peppered some of the closer planets, earth included.

Where is this "thing" in relationship to Ceres orbit? Again, is it orbiting within the Asteroid belt. And is its orbit close to the center of the belt?

Throwing out all previous science, what you may be witnessing, is the birthing of a planet, to take the place of the destroyed one. And if it is, you may begin by having a rather large bond fire of books, science books!

So, is it orbiting in the center of the belt, or in Ceres solar track.

All Seeing Eye
I've found nothing that tells of this object's distance from Ceres.
Where is this "thing" in relationship to Ceres orbit?
So, is it orbiting in the center of the belt, or in Ceres solar track.

Nothing whatsoever to do with Ceres, either in location or orbit...

Interesting new twist.
Is it breaking apart now?

reply to post by ItCameFromOuterSpace


As long as the streamers go away from the sun it won't be an alien. If the ejecta came toward the sun then it's propulsion and it's time to get ready for visitors.

tokejesus
Plot Twist, it turns out it's an alien spacecraft from one of those billions of earth-like planets in our solar
system.

learn the basics please... for example the difference between galaxy and solar system

In the two pictures of the object, taken on Sept. 10th and 23rd by the Hubble Space Telescope, we see that the tails shifted somewhat in direction. This is not the only difference between the two images.
The tails are also spread out over a much narrower angle on the 10th, than on the 23rd. Apparently about 90 degrees on the earlier date and around 120 degree on the latter.
It's not clear what this may signify. If the tails are dust, released the the object in short bursts, their directions more or less fixed due to inertia, it seems that they should have retained the same angular relationship.

reply to post by Chamberf=6


IS IT NOT STRANGE THAT HUBBLE IS STILL POINTED OUT WHEN COMET ISON IS COMING IN, VERY CLOSE IN?

I FIND IT STRANGE THAT N.A.S.A HAS SHUT DOWN OR BLIDED TO THE PUBLIC A SEGEMENT OF THEIR CAPABILITY \4 WATCHING THINGS.. ASTERIODS & METERS ARE ZIPPING INTO EARTH & THE ATMOSPHERE WITHOUT ANY WARNING OR KNOWLEDGE??? NOPE I WITNESSED THE "RADAR ARAY" THAT WATCHES.. IT MISSES NOTHING. NOTHING.

RUSSIA, JAPAN & CHINA AEW ASTOUNDED AT THE FACT THAT THE U.S. IS NOT INFORMING THEIR PUBLIC OF PENDING EVENT & POSSIBILITIES,

COMET ISON IS EFFECTING OUR SUN & IT'S FLARE ACTIVITIES... EMP'S... THERE-IN LIES THE "KILL SHOT" THAT CAN KNOCK OUT OUR TOTAL ELECTRIC GRID FOR YEARS, ACTUALLY COOK THE EARTH. NO MEMTION FROM N.A.S.A.

THE U.S. MILITARY HAVE BEEN GIVE "BUG OUT ALERT INSTRUCTIONS" WITH 72 HOUR NOTICE.

IF THIS A FALSE ALARM GO BACK TO YOU TV & THE GAME. & I HOPE IT IS..DO NOT KNOW ENOUGH TO TELL..

IF NOT I DO NOT KNOW WHAT OR WHERE WILL BE SAFE ENOUGH.
THE GOV. HAS "DEEP UNDER GROUND MILITARY BASES & REFUSE. BUT JUST ENOUGH ROOM FOR SELECT MILITARY, THE GOVERNMENT & THOSE "SPECIAL FOLKS" & TO RECOVER & REBUILD.

THEIR STRATAGY IS KEEP THEM IN THE DARK AS LONG AS POSSIBLE OR UNTIL IT IS TOO LATE.

DO YOUR RESEARCH

Sorry if my metaphysical speculation is off topic...I like to think that pics of nebula are cosmic beings caught in a snap shot, their image as our limited 3D tools and minds can perceive. Are comets cosmic motor homes? Are stars beings? What's happening to that being when they super nova? Is it the moment of their enlightenment?

reply to post by All Seeing Eye


What if what we think of Space is far off still. What if there are actual creatures that can survive floating in space? Maybe this is like some kind of massive Space Jelly fish. Kind of like one we see deeeeep in the ocean.

reply to post by Ross 54


As the Earth moves around the Sun, our viewing angle changes, which makes the jets "appear" to take on different angles...no? The object itself is definitely strange. Anyone know when it was first discovered? Seems that something is unusual would have been spotted years ago...unless it's a new arrival or creation.

Has a miniscule black hole been ruled out?

-cwm

reply to post by Chamberf=6


I am no where near an expect on this kind of thing but it is highly to say the least. My best uneducated guess would be that something hit it and we are seeing stuff flying off from it.

Either that or it is highly radioactive and the beta and gamma rays are interacting with something in space giving off the sparks perhaps.

0bserver1
reply to post by InverseLookingGlass

 

Maybe someone will get the bright idea to observe for x-rays. It would indeed be odd to see x-rays coming from an asteroid wouldn't it?

What if that's a fact ? you mean its operating by something else? Did SETI not detect plasma coming from habitable planets or working towards that to support the Kepler findings?

X-rays coming from a Solar System body is not that odd. The Moon gives off X-rays; most of them are simply the Sun's X-rays reflected off the Moon, but some are the result of solar radiation interacting with the lunar surface. www.nature.com...

Solar radiation and particles cause comets to emit X-rays. www.universetoday.com...

There are even X-rays coming off Earth. science1.nasa.gov...

So I wouldn't be surprised if the asteroid in question had X-rays coming off it.

If the asteroid was rapidly spinning as posited, I would think the "jets" should appear curved, rather than straight out. No?

reply to post by InverseLookingGlass

LOL. I believe sick to the stomach is a better bet. That's the feeling you get when a "standard" scientific model breaks.

nailed it. while i am unsure (as are all humans) of the true nature of things, one thing can be said: those that have a vested interest in standard model theories become quite frightened when things don't line up with what they expect. they will also overemphasize when the current model makes correct predictions.

i'd love to know what's causing this to occur, incredibly fascinating. by the way, does anyone else consider the '6 tails' designation arbitrary? it's quite hard to tell what constitutes an individual tail on this object.

Bob Sholtz

LOL. I believe sick to the stomach is a better bet. That's the feeling you get when a "standard" scientific model breaks.

...become quite frightened when things don't line up with what they expect.

As pointed out back on page 2, such a "dusty tail" asteroid had already been predicted to exist years ago.

Those astronomers are actually probably thinking "yeah! we got one!"