The Nazi's actually won WW2.....(you're gonna be SHOCKED!!)

a lemon and a lime are both citrus, round, the same size, the same outside peel texture, the same inside fruit texture...but they have completely different tastes. similarities, that's it...and northern European countries are the most socialist, and yet provide the best society for it's people...Nazi's were fascists, a combination of business and government that controlled everything to the detriment of it's people

reply to post by spartacus699


If you except that Hitler was the boss? Why? I understand he was created or groomed for the position by the powers that were at the time. Financing from the banks. Sort of like the current situation here in the USA.

I think if you consider who was calling the shots then and now, I agree they won, no doubt!

Read any 100 words in the forums here on ATS and I'm sure you will find the same hate and separation.

The idea that we can blame the rulers and find no fault with the people actually doing the harm just doesn't seem right though?

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Order from chaos...

What do you call a government that takes all the bad things about different types of governments and combines them into one government??

AngryCymraeg

AbleEndangered


And who found his body??

The Soviets. And believe me, when even a paranoid nut like Stalin was convinced that Hitler was dead, there's a good chance that he really was dead!

dna testing on the bones proved it to be a womans remains that they had

you sure would think the germans won the war these days with germany being europes bankers and power house and a nice clean country all modern .

i live very near a place where the natzi,s were re-educated and if you look into history you will see britian took 9000 ex -nazis after the war but that is not talked about as might adolphs real name be rothchild as his grandmother worked for them and came home pregnant o miss schicklegruber .

if germany had not turned on russia things would be a lot different today as 90% of german casualties were inflicted by the russians .

a good book to read on all this is the nameless war by capt a m ramsey

geobro

AngryCymraeg

AbleEndangered


And who found his body??

The Soviets. And believe me, when even a paranoid nut like Stalin was convinced that Hitler was dead, there's a good chance that he really was dead!

dna testing on the bones proved it to be a womans remains that they had

The only problem is that they identified Hitler's body via his dental records. So the skull fragment is probably Eva Braun's.

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Tbh I've thought likewise for sometime now too. I've heard that there were some files released several years ago (maybe in the late 1990s) that the Nazis created a contingency plan to go underground. Whether the Nazis intended to work as a 5th column in the US and allied countries over the decades or whether the US and its allies, through the adoption of Nazi doctrine has implemented various Nazi tactics the parallels are there for all to see i.e. America fought a world war against the Nazis and their genocidal ideology, but over time has turned into their own worst enemy. They won the war, but very much have lost the peace and will go the way of other imperialist nations like ancient Rome...

Very Good Read!
Hats off to you for this theory... Lot of open holes that don’t add up as yet.

With the fall of Communism we had a Huge influx of socialism.
They are the lesser evil to Communism and are in the EPA here in the good ole USA.

This is what has come to pass, a socialist order that wants socialist rule of the world.

The plan may have begun in WWII, but it came to full swing/push in the 90's.

Here we are today with what we have and looks like the current administration is pushing it even harder.

reply to post by spartacus699


OK. So the bottom line, what did the "win?"
Ideologically?
Physically?
Nationally?
Spiritually?
Economically?
Intellectually?


So maybe some Nazis, even Hitler, may have escaped to Argentina, etc. But the Nazi "won" in your imagination?

Regardless of how WWII was started or caused, the end result for the German people was not in any stretch a "win."
They displayed incredible abilities in their effort, but they won nothing.

Let me guess: You are a very young person, have little knowledge of the causes and results of WWI and WWII and have some dream-like, self-interpretation of world history?

reply to post by spartacus699

We have cameras on every street corner..........They used a Nazi, stationed on every street corner

"Our" cameras enforce traffic laws; theirs enforced racial purity.

we have flouride in the water......................They used in the concentration camps

Flouride prevents caveties; KZs were for genocide.

We have the public school system..................They had Hitler Youth

The public school system encourages critical thinking and is often attacked for its "liberal values" ; the Hitler Youth emphasized conformity and obedience.

We have Main Stream Media which is all controlled.............They had nothing but propaganda as well

We have media that reports government failures (eg; the failure of the Insurance Market website); their media only reported triumphs, even if it had to invent them.

we put our hands over our chest and pleadge allegence......They put there hands up and said heil hilter

We pledge allegiance to a symbol; they pledged their lives to a (sick) human being.

The allied powers are mostly socialistic now, and far less capitalistic.................The nazi's were socialists

The European powers all provide social welfare. The Nazis expected people to work to death.

We no longer have officers dressed shirt and tie, we have paramilitary police......They had the S.S.

By definition, all police are paramilitary. The SS were not police.

We have peace officers, bilaw, sheiriffs.....................They had the Brown Shirts

All societies have police. The Brown Shirts were the opposite of police.

We experiment with all kinds of pharmasuiticals..................So did they

We also grow food; so did they. What's your point?

We have Gitmo and other blackopps concentration camps....................So did they

We have prisons; they had extermination camps.

We have EyeCBeeEhms.........................So did they

We have never used guided missiles against civilian targets; they did.

We have check points on a lot of highways.......................They had checkpoints

Our checkpoints look for drunk drivers; theirs looked for Jews and Gypsies.

We did 9/11...........They did The Riechstag (both stagged, and then blamed on the enemy

Al Qaida took public responsibility for the attack on WTC; the Communists always maintained the Reichstag fire was set by the Nazis.

Congratulations! Your theory is one of the most preposterous I have read on ATS in ages. Now, if you could only work dinosaurs in there somewhere....

You know, I read a book titled The Last Oracle not long ago, and this was very much a part of it. Apparently, old Nazi scientists were interested in engineering the perfect "psychic" autistic savant. When the Nazis were toppled, very select scientists were given refuge for the information they possessed and what they could still learn from "experimentation". Who doesn't want to be the next superpower, you know? But over the years, this project evolved into genetic manipulation yielding such morally questionable results as substantially increased longevity. Unfortunately, this research came at some very appalling costs that were kept very secret. Anyway, the book basically explains how miracles have their price...and some people are more than willing to pay that price, even at others' expenses.

DogMeat
Very Good Read!
Hats off to you for this theory... Lot of open holes that don’t add up as yet.

With the fall of Communism we had a Huge influx of socialism.
They are the lesser evil to Communism and are in the EPA here in the good ole USA.

This is what has come to pass, a socialist order that wants socialist rule of the world.

The plan may have begun in WWII, but it came to full swing/push in the 90's.

Here we are today with what we have and looks like the current administration is pushing it even harder.

'

I keep hearing this "we are turning socialist" crap all the time...but, every statistic has it that there are more poor people, that have less and less each year, and that a portion of the middle class has also been driven into poverty. millions of kids hungry, people working 2 or 3 jobs, no raise in minimum wage in 7 years, cuts to food stamps, housing, cuts to NIH and CDC both of which are the frontline defenders against diseases... and surprise!!! the wealthiest making enormous income gains, billions and billions in government welfare to oil corporations, stock market new highs. the right-wing supreme court ending the civil rights act, allowing corporations to have human rights, allowing the wealthy unlimited and hidden political contributions, that could contain money from China, Saudi Arabia, Russia, because we have no way of checking where that money comes from. Michagan cities being run by one state appointed person that has unlimited power, with no local elected representation....AND YOU CALL THIS A PUSH TOWARD SOCIALISM??????...get a dictionary

AngryCymraeg

AbleEndangered

― Sun Tzu, The Art of War
“The whole secret lies in confusing the enemy, so that he cannot fathom our real intent.”

The 4th Reich is so overpowered compared to the Third one...

The parallels between USSA and 1930's Germany are countlessly scary!!

Paper Clip
MK Ultra
Hitler Escape
U-Boats
etc...etc...etc....

There has never been any credible evidence that Hitler escaped from the burning remains of Berlin.

Hitler had many body doubles, come on

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wrong wrong wrong and wrong, now go have a nice tall glass of tap water which will give you cancer

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all you need to know is everything writen in history books is mostly lies. So it's your job to examine what was said and try to piece together the truth, and that's all your gonna get. So like ww2, ya sure we won, get real.

spartacus699
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all you need to know is everything writen in history books is mostly lies. So it's your job to examine what was said and try to piece together the truth, and that's all your gonna get. So like ww2, ya sure we won, get real.

Speaking as a man with a degree in history, I have to say something. Whut??????

AngryCymraeg

spartacus699
reply to post by Aliensun

 

all you need to know is everything writen in history books is mostly lies. So it's your job to examine what was said and try to piece together the truth, and that's all your gonna get. So like ww2, ya sure we won, get real.

Speaking as a man with a degree in history, I have to say something. Whut??????

ya you wasted your money. History books are nothing but propaganda tools to the technocracy

spartacus699

AngryCymraeg

spartacus699
reply to post by Aliensun

 

all you need to know is everything writen in history books is mostly lies. So it's your job to examine what was said and try to piece together the truth, and that's all your gonna get. So like ww2, ya sure we won, get real.

Speaking as a man with a degree in history, I have to say something. Whut??????

ya you wasted your money. History books are nothing but propaganda tools to the technocracy

Oookay. That's an interesting theory. Shame that it's splattered against the cold hard wall of reality, but it's an interesting theory.

DJW001
reply to post by spartacus699

 

We have cameras on every street corner..........They used a Nazi, stationed on every street corner

"Our" cameras enforce traffic laws; theirs enforced racial purity.

we have flouride in the water......................They used in the concentration camps

Flouride prevents caveties; KZs were for genocide.

We have the public school system..................They had Hitler Youth

The public school system encourages critical thinking and is often attacked for its "liberal values" ; the Hitler Youth emphasized conformity and obedience.

We have Main Stream Media which is all controlled.............They had nothing but propaganda as well

We have media that reports government failures (eg; the failure of the Insurance Market website); their media only reported triumphs, even if it had to invent them.

we put our hands over our chest and pleadge allegence......They put there hands up and said heil hilter

We pledge allegiance to a symbol; they pledged their lives to a (sick) human being.

The allied powers are mostly socialistic now, and far less capitalistic.................The nazi's were socialists

The European powers all provide social welfare. The Nazis expected people to work to death.

We no longer have officers dressed shirt and tie, we have paramilitary police......They had the S.S.

By definition, all police are paramilitary. The SS were not police.

We have peace officers, bilaw, sheiriffs.....................They had the Brown Shirts

All societies have police. The Brown Shirts were the opposite of police.

We experiment with all kinds of pharmasuiticals..................So did they

We also grow food; so did they. What's your point?

We have Gitmo and other blackopps concentration camps....................So did they

We have prisons; they had extermination camps.

We have EyeCBeeEhms.........................So did they

We have never used guided missiles against civilian targets; they did.

We have check points on a lot of highways.......................They had checkpoints

Our checkpoints look for drunk drivers; theirs looked for Jews and Gypsies.

We did 9/11...........They did The Riechstag (both stagged, and then blamed on the enemy

Al Qaida took public responsibility for the attack on WTC; the Communists always maintained the Reichstag fire was set by the Nazis.

Congratulations! Your theory is one of the most preposterous I have read on ATS in ages. Now, if you could only work dinosaurs in there somewhere....

We have never used guided missiles against civilian targets; they did.

I guess drone strikes don't count? Because we've killed massive amounts of civilians from camera guided fly by wire missiles launched from unmanned air crafts.

Also, our checkpoints don't look for drunk drivers. Our checkpoints look for any reason to arrest you. Be it "Contraband" or bad lip service. If they were looking for drunk drivers, I wouldn't have to allow them to rip apart my car while I wait an hour for them to clear me.

I'm just saying -- You might be a little off the mark.

Al Qaida took responsibility for the attack? Oh really? Who runs Al Qiada though? It's just another Agency created and ran by the US. Notice how the government didn't stop the attack, even when they knew about it before hand?

Notice how they actually provided cover by staging plane crash drills all over the region at the same time the "strikes" happened?



The comparisons are fair. Although, over 70 years you make adjustments to the plan.

This is a very solid theory, just look at all the American Alphabet agencies, all fully staffed by nazi's after the war, even Nasa.

Good thread Spartacus699 but you're misspellings made it hard for me to get accept your conspiracy theory.

The phonetic spellings and misspelled words like Trojan horse and choirboys slowed me down, however, you made your point well enough. S&F for that.

Lately I've been drafting my posts in a word processor with spell check before posting them to save time and for clarity .

As Thorneblood pointed out, your curious spelling could be an attempt to encrypt your message to avoid NSA spying, a thought I never really entertained. I must agree with Thorne that the tech the NSA uses would include common misspellings and phonetic spellings to get the message like I was able to.

Anyway, it gave me more to think about in addition to your Nazi conspiracy.